What will be the price of one of those settlements?
There has been an evolving number over the past year due to different designs. Mainly the 25x25m platforms were estimated to cost around $10 million. But I've seen that they are doing different variations with bungalows and condos, so they might be priced differently. Nothing will really be set in stone until all of the engineering and design is done which is the main bulk of what the ICO funds will go toward. But the goal is to average around $200k per person to live there. |
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Elwar I know that you claim that you aren't hired by Blue Frontiers but surely they have a Representative that could ask all the questions and engage with it's community a little more?
If you are telling you truth you are literally doing someones job for them and not receiving any benefit at all.
I have been volunteering for Blue Frontiers since last May. They have over 70 volunteers that have been spending the past year supporting the project since they opened up the volunteer program. We literally turn people away who want to volunteer for the group to not overwhelm the group with too many new people each week who would need to be caught up. At least until we start getting things going. I have been involved in seasteading for the past 10 years and this is the first viable project to come along. I am doing everything I can to make it happen, even moving to French Polynesia to lend my support as needed. For me, the benefit will be a potential future free of the government idiocy that we all have to live with every day. I put in many hours for various libertarian candidates, this is no different. Answering a few questions is no big deal, I did the same thing for Bitcoin in the early days. There is a team of people on various social media sites answering questions. I told them I would handle bitcointalk since I'm on here all the time anyway. In theory they would give me some varyon for my work if I claimed my hours but what's more important for me is the success of this project. If there is more engaging with the community necessary I can certainly ask others on the team to chime in. They hang out mostly on our telegram channel if you want quicker answers to any questions. https://t.me/bluefrontierscommunity |
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When does the sale actually start?Is there a date somewhere?
From all of the talk I have heard it sounds like they will start the public sale once we reach the soft cap of 4000 ETH (don't quote me on this, it is more reading between the lines than anyone actually saying it). From my e-mail, we have a new announcement of a lowered threshold for the presales: Since we opened the Varyon presale we’ve been overwhelmed by positive feedback and pledges totaling thousands of Ether.
In response to many personal requests from our supporters, we’ve decided to lower the entry threshold and adjust the bonus structure for the remainder of the presale.
Buy in now!Varyon Presale
New Minimum: 1 ETH
Bonuses
5% 1-10 ETH
10% 10-40 ETH
15% 40+ ETH
You can buy VAR in BTC, ETH, or ZEN.
Don’t know how to change fiat into ETH and buy Varyon?
Read the buyer’s guide here
I would suggest getting in quickly, this past week has been big as far as publicity and they're just getting started. CNBCBusiness InsiderBitcoin.comNews BTCThey are also allowing accredited US investors now, so if you are an accredited US investor (net worth of $1 million or income of $200k the past 2 years) you are free to buy VAR. |
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How exactly will your project benefit from blockchain technology?
Please see this video on the top 20 ideas for integrating blockchain and seasteading: https://youtu.be/eSbG4LH-QOE?t=319 |
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my chartz saying going up
Agreed, my WO bcash reference meter is showing that a big push upwards is about to occur. |
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Who here is interested in participating in this, and what would you want a seastead to have before living on one? I'm not going to collect any money from people, but if there's enough interest (maybe $75 million or so), we can hire some people who actually know what they're doing and create a proper company with a board of directors, etc. Maybe it could even be made into an ICO, though I'm pretty skeptical of those in general.
Looks like this Seasteading project of Yours is getting fair coverage in the Futures community Press: https://futurism.com/floating-island-project-high-seas/Futurism's Instagram poll reveals that a full 76 percent of their followers are interested in this idea of living on a floating island. Congratulations on a good PR, from a fellow hustler; and Best Wishes for Your Seasteading Project! btw, You can always consult me for the White Hat hacking tests on Your Seasteading project's physical Security.  Also made MSNBC today: A floating Pacific island is in the works with its own government,...The Floating Island Project is a pilot program in partnership with the government of French Polynesia, which will see 300 homes built on an island that runs under its own governance, using a cryptocurrency called Varyon. |
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Yo Chad  Great to see you in person I like the approach you have to the project, even though there are no solutions for some problems at the moment, like moving the island and relocating it, you believe that technology will bring that in future and make it possible.It show how this project is serious, visionary and long term investment in better future.Taking a safe approach and doing things step by step to give yourself time to discover problems and tackle them while still in early phase of development. You said that you will be looking to partner up with other companies to get blockchain solutions for some of the problems and sectors you mentioned in the video.Can you like give us some candidates for certain sector that you have in mind? Thanks  We've had talks with Bravenewcoin which has an identity token in the works, we're looking at some p2p electricity companies out of Australia to see how their pilot projects are going. There are many approaches out there to blockchain voting, we talked to one developer but most of it will not come into play until we get the platforms in the water which will be 2021. In the blockchain space that is like some far off future. One thing we will likely start out with first which I didn't bring up in the video was environmental monitoring on the blockchain. We will set up monitoring devices as soon as possible and try to automate things so that all of that information gets recorded on a public blockchain for anyone to see. That is something we can put in the water before the seastead is even built so we can see the process and do "before and after" types of studies. We have partnered with UC Berkeley for their environmental monitoring program. |
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How much effect on the market will this Corda thing have, a distributed ledger database (sames as Ripple) It is not invest able and want be found on Coinmarketcap. Made by the Banks for the Banks not public viewable, trade-able. Corda is a distributed ledger platform designed to record, manage and automate legal agreements between business partners. Designed by (and for) the world's largest financial institutions yet with applications in multiple industries. It offers a unique response to the privacy and scalability challenges facing decentralised applications. R3 is an enterprise software firm working with a network of over 200 banks, financial institutions, regulators, trade associations, professional services firms and technology companies to develop on Corda, our blockchain platform designed specifically for businesses . https://www.r3.com/https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/14/hsbc-makes-worlds-first-trade-finance-transaction-using-blockchain.htmlIt is irrelevant. Hope so, dont know what to make of it. There are literally 20,000 bank coins created a day. This one doesn't even rate in the top million. |
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I believe these past two pages are what r0ach has worked his whole life to achieve.
2 pages on the Wall Observer thread talking about him.
His work paid off.
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I wonder where r0ach is getting the energy from to do what he's doing. He clearly has 0 followers, noone rarely agrees with him and he is being bashed nonstop. Or does he really think he is smarter than everyone else and he is genuinely trying to convert us from stupidity of cryptoworld to the high intelligence of silver trading? Lol.
Just wondering, maybe I should take a book of psychology to understand someone who seems smart but is so utterly stupid.
I think converting people to using gold is just the first step. Then he will want the races to be re-named to elves, dwarves, humans and halflings. Then instead of professions we will all have classes. His transformation of everything to the world of D&D will then be complete. |
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I wanted to go to the site but for some reason I get an error. I hope this is temporary. but the project is interesting for me. and I most likely will take part in it
If varyon.io does not work, it is just pointing to: https://www.blue-frontiers.com/varyon |
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Being a TA genius I will point out that the lows are getting higher each time.
In my expert opinion this is a good thing.
PM me if you would like me to explain my very technical analysis, it might take years of study but you might be able to understand eventually.
Observe this picture for proof:
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How are you going about providing clean potable water to the residents? Normally, potable water is provided via water mains on land, and are sterilized with chemicals such as chlorine . However, the people behind the project seem adamant that climate change is a problem, and that you could relocate relatively easy. Then how are you going to transport your potable water?
You could go the desalination route just like cruise ships do, although this has proven costly. Eventually, you could have the need for a lot of potable water which might not be easily processed through desalination. Desalination has also been linked with climate change which I'm sure the people behind your project don't want to actively encourage.
I'm guessing that you will be collecting rainwater for a source of potable rain water with the involvement of American Rainwater Catchment Systems Association. Although, I would have my concerns about using rainfall for potable water. For example, it's very difficult to determine the amount of rainfall that might happen, and whether it will be enough to supply your ongoing residents. You could have dry days/weeks etc which could be a massive issue. What are your backup plans if rain fall doesn't alone provide enough to your residents?
What sort of capacity will your water reserve be holding?
I've skimmed your whitepaper, and haven't found you going into detail about water systems, water consumptions and contingency plans. I consider water to one of the most important aspects, and one which is often overlooked. I'm also interested in the system you will be using to determine how much maintenance, and how long it would take for the initial investment to prove while.
All great questions and we have a full team that has been focusing on nothing but water/waste for the past year. Since I am in the blockchain group I will not try to cover all of the insanely complicated things those guys discuss in their group because I just peeked into one of their meetings once and sat through three hours of talk about poop and the stages of how it goes from stinky to useful soil. I have heard a few things in the general discussion about rainfall catchment and storage being built into the design and a very heated discussion about not allowing any higher salinity to return to the sea than we take out (minimal impact vs zero impact vs positive impact, etc.). In the lagoon we hope to leave it better than when we arrive. Fortunately the teams are putting together an easy to understand infographic about more of the design elements (the whitepaper is more about the currency and general idea of the company than anything specific about the design). This will also include a full report by each of the design groups that they submitted at the end of 2017 with their recommendations. And as with all of these systems we will initially be very close to land so we will certainly have backups in place as we evolve and grow. |
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Panic!
Blood in the streets time.
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Umm, I was promised a Consensus bump?
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This seems like a ambitious and expensive project.In case you dont reach hard cap wil you have enough to go on with the project?
If the hard cap is hit they will have funding from the ICO to get through all of the engineering, prototypes and likely construction of the first platform. They will have the reserves from there to pay for further building. This gives Blue Frontiers more control over the experiment of the pilot project which makes it easier overall for Blue Frontiers moving forward after that. If only the soft cap is hit they will be able to fund most of the engineering and prototyping but money will be tight and they may need to burn through some reserves and instead of owning the pilot platforms they will likely have to do pre-sales to other companies/groups/rich individuals. That will make it a bit more difficult but still do-able. But with the soft cap there will be more reserves. Sort of like the difference of having a car company where you build one car at a time and sell it to get money for the next car, or having a manufacturing plant where you can mass produce a bunch. Anywhere in between is just varying degrees between the two. |
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Thanks for the video, lazy people are all around us:) maybe I missed it , can you post it again the ico dates, pre ico etc. Its presale at the moment and public sale will start in June. Do you maybe know exact dates for those sale phases? Token sale should start on May 15th. Actually there is no set date yet for the public sale. They are still working on shoring up security for the token, putting as many industry eyes on it (including Dr. Nagy of the Ethereum Institute) to make sure we will have a secure token. When can we expect for sale dates to be set? The date will be in June but they don't know when the date will be set yet. |
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