Naturally correct, because people who want free money were never needed and it takes a long wait before they get rewarded for their patience.
I've had many coins before but I didn't conduct the amount of patience it needed before I get rewarded for my wait. Had nearly 1 BTC at a time when BTC was $6k and I thought it was its peak, so sold it completely and the same year, it went above $18k and even reached $20k later on. And when it wasn't needed to wait, I waited for longer (in these bearish times) and got defeated by the markets making me lose more than 1 full BTC. It's good to wait yet as I believe BTC has not met its bottom for this year yet, and so it will hammer (crash) alts too very hardly, so as to give us the ability to buy back our favorite tokens and even BTC at dirt-cheap prices.

It's actually great to have things unpredictable, it makes it challenging for everyone to remain in the game.


Bitcoin had been extremely grateful that developers have been doing everything in its interest to keep things going on and on, and as it goes beyond anything in the world and once it gets adopted at global levels, it'll surely achieve the type of people it really needs in order to work properly for ages. As about price stability, do we really need it? No, because it's the natural advantage here for us to speculate on it and give it a value that we want to sell it for.


Really, state? Fuck them up, intervention of governments pr any other institutions is really not needed as Bitcoins' invention was to remove these people's hold on us and make us financially free by keeping everything out of their reach. As well, international banks or anything we call as banks are literally not needed in it currently as I believe that P2P is one of the best ways to remove these traditional intermediaries out of the game.

And what made you think that there was no price manipulation before?
It's been there since Bitcoin spiked from $1 to $30 and will remain till Bitcoin prevails.
Nobody can deny the fact that manipulation had always been one of the major reasons why Bitcoin soared and declined way too low after the bull runs.


Truly, it was all ETF thing but was leverage-played carefully by the big players over common people's money by making them believe that ETF will get accepted and injecting a fake bull run, making them increase the values and make those big players some big money through leverage-trading (longs). Recent example was the OKEx scene where they got liquidated for their shorts and a whale who went long made hell lots of money, and even agreed to pay some for their losses. Frankly speaking, nobody here really knows where the dip is, so buying at any price gives us the opportunity to remain in BTC (be it today or tomorrow, the only advantage/disadvantage would be whether the price appreciates or declines).

That's what people don't understand here that Rome wasn't built in a day and that Bitcoin took years to get to $20k and it took a lot of patience and wait for the people to actually be able to see those values. Even after that, some real big wallets have not yet moved a dime out of their wallets in order to keep their savings intact and let it reward them for their belief at a time when there will be enough buy orders for them to eat the whole markets and still go multi-billionaires. All it takes is a wait and a need for Bitcoin to reach such a level, and for that, we need a super strong reason for that super bull run to be established. Bulls are not playing the markets currently as longs are getting hit so badly when bears start to kick in the ass of bulls. They are probably waiting for the correct zone to enter the markets back and then take the price to an ATH and then, those who are crying about this decline will cry more louder for their worst decision they are taking currently by selling their coins to those long-term holders.

Acceptance of a member is the first basic thing here before you can consider them eligible for the financial gains you've mentioned in your message.



Till date, I have not seen any campaign managers going before a specific topic, but yeah, there are boards given in the rules that the members need to post in. Constructiveness is one different subject and the manager himself decides whether he finds an enrolled member's posts as qualified or not for the payment. If the team thinks that they can manage their campaigns on their own, well, they don't really need a high-ranked account to do that as copper membership can get them the features that a high-ranked member gets, so they can easily share everything a manager does in OP.


No, I don't think so. Managers need to go through the history of member's posts in order to see whether they fulfilled the requirements as needed for their payment or not.


If the team thinks they don't need an escrow, it's good for them but it will not be seen as fine from the community's end as they will doubt the credibility of the team because they are new and there is nothing guaranteed here. It would be better for them to keep someone in between and then start a campaign from their end (if they wish to) or hire a campaign manager to do that. I've seen many campaign managers offering escrow services themselves, one is DarkStar_.

I believe in your words, but half. I know that BTC stands a chance to get dumped down to the least bottom levels at $4000, but then the heavy bull run is waiting as the buyers are really influenced by this life-changing investment and the $4000 level looks an extremely probable scene here, where they have put their limit buys, so as to get their orders filled once people start selling under panic. This is to give the strong hands a chance to get our BTC at such cheap rates. But then comes another bull run, which will eventually, if not gradually, turn BTC into a completely non-touchable asset (focus on emotions) as the value will be took to such fatigue numbers that we won't be able to buy our own Bitcoins that we are selling today. And no, I don't think that 8k won't be seen this year, you will surely see more than $10k itself.

The same was the case with me, but it was like I had my Bitcoins in Viberate coin which used to be one of my favorite projects until things went ugly on me and everything started to drop like a house that drops during an earthquake.


I had more than BTC0.25 in Vib that declined to almost BTC0.15 even during the period when alts were rising badly, never had I thought that this will prove to be one of my biggest mistakes. But then, I made up my mind and sold off my Vib, took my BTC and kept it until I got a project I thought I could believe into. Afterwards, I bought Pundi X with BTC0.15 of my own and BTC0.15 from a loan I took from a friend. I never knew it would be the best investment of my life.


But then, greed is all it takes to turn the tables around and make you go back to where you started from. Everything was fine unless it wasn't over binance, and then me and many other investors got fucked. The worst thing here was, we need to be smart because holding your investment like a fool for longer will even take out your gains that were meant to be there in your life if you could take one good decision to get out from it at the right time. Nobody can tell the future, I've had BTC1.5 with me until it got listed over Binance, and after that, when I saw it falling down, I sold it at a very bad rate under panic and bought another coin, it went down and I sold off under panic again. Now, I am left with nothing but regret. The only thing that matters is, in the end, you should never regret on your decision.

Those who are banning or have already banned Bitcoins in their countries are foolish in my views. I think the limited nature of Bitcoins and that its speed and transparency over transactions through blockchain is one of the main reasons these governments should understand currently. At a very wide pace, Bitcoin helps any country's economy, not currently, but will surely help them at a large pace once it gets adopted globally as a mode of payment because due to its limited number, it'll rise in the demand so high that those with the maximum amount of Bitcoins will be able to sell them at premium rates, gaining a lot more fiat for their country in the end. Many countries are also coming up with their own crypto, so as to get more Bitcoins by attracting people to buy their tokens for BTC itself - a great strategy to pull a lot of BTC from many different countries to one.

First of all, which one?
Secondly, even if you saw it, I'd say that it totally depends on the budget of the company and/or party (if the manager himself is conducting a campaign on his own) as well as they will decide what to be given to their members based on the amount of time they want to run their campaign. Still, I believe that those who go for bounty signature campaigns, they just strike off arrows in dark thinking it will give them what's promised for their participation, but it's not guaranteed here that they will gain what they expected and worked for.

It'll cost you time to learn mining, instead learn for AWS mining and try your luck there if you can get some Amazon accounts, few of my friends were doing it and they were also new to crypto and were interested in mining, but they found someone who suggested them AWS and made them understand how to use it to mine a few valuable coins. About your money, as of now, you should buy Bitcoins and hodl them until you get a chance to buy a few alts at their least (cheapest) values. Bitcoin is also good because ETF is in line and will make ways for investors to drive the markets crazy. You can set a buy order at lowest levels and who knows, you may get the best coins for least price and sell them later when alt season starts and such coins do a 10-20x and even give you a 100x shot.

Speculators speculate, but these bitmex guys are something I would surely trust upon, because after all their shadiness that I've come across (leverage manipulation, fake contracts, marginal stops reached, etc.), I do believe these guys know a lot better about the markets than us. We all just speculate out of nothing, but these people really know something sort of insiders, and even if ETF gets approved, these big companies' cutting-edge technology will increase the demand so well that playing with BTC with their (institutions') trillions of dollars will be like a matter of click. It's honorably true what Vitalik said that we need to have adoption in our minds, but we're into speculations and moving towards the wrong side by making this an only-tradable asset which can be used just for the purpose of making more money. Bitcoin was made to be used as money, not to make money.

Doing a research at complete stretch for a specific game does count, but at certain levels. It can give you the knowledge, the more you know the higher the chances of understanding the game players and their style of play. But, sometimes luck factor plays an important role in making us win because even best of the best teams lose when any of their good players either don't play or are under bad form which is totally unpredictable. I've seen gamblers making good money during live matches with such knowledge instead of betting before the games started. It really pays off to have an in-depth analysis and research of a game, be it through gambling or by giving tips to people who follow you.

Better to work with full confidence in your words and make meaningful posts rather than supporting and/or spitting out spam and shit. Learning more about most of the new things (this one's for newbies) that they're unfamiliar with is the best way to be constructive later, as well they should learn to use Google and Bitcointalk's search feature before asking a question that's been asked a hundred times. Speaking where necessary, and while being a newbie, speaking something totally out of a newbie's reach of minds is the best way one can earn merits.

If you're really interested in knowing how to earn a merit for sure, go to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055616.0 and follow it, check each round and check the members who won the challenges, see their posts and you'll learn what it takes to earn a merit.

Feeling really sorry to say this but now, I've come to a conclusion here that an innocent user @WaffleMaster himself is trying to "extort" for a small amount of money here by giving mental torture to the whole forum by making the same accusations again and again, even after things trying to settle down from the other party's (manager) end. To the best of my knowledge, people shouldn't be here if their least intention is just to make money through the forum. Either we get paid or not, but we post; we post for the sake of our passion because we love to do it, to share our opinions here as we know they're going to be heard. Seeing your history after making this scam accusation thread, I've been watching you and can say that you've not posted anything good since then and are just trying to worsen up things for both of you by carrying away this discussion ahead. Why are you bothering too much just for those 7 posts (and even if you're right according to yahoo, I'd still ask you what makes you think that you were to be remaining in that campaign till its end when such ^agreements^ that you're talking about, were literally not made)? Where can you prove here that you're entirely entitled for that position for the whole campaign and that you were not going to be removed in either ways? And if you're not entitled to it, then I'm sorry but your claims about your ^potential^ earnings have just come out of thin air and nothing. That's my judgment.

Merit system is really great and can remove a very large number of people (mostly bots) who are currently abusing the bounties everywhere. But about the higher ranks, as you mentioned, such as Jr. Member and above is still worthless as they can still abuse them by "buying" more accounts. And I believe that they'd have made enough to drop a shit worth of BTC off their pockets and buy those cheap Jr. Member accounts, hire some manpower and give them pennies to use their accounts and rank up, be it potential accounts or current Jr. Member accounts and above.

It's good to have such IPs blacklisted when anyone attempts to do multiple sign ups through the same IP. But, what if a bot is programmed to use different IP for each registration bypassing the rules through VPN services? There are many advantages of such things, but the biggest disadvantage is this only that one person can abuse the whole system multiple times by using such technologies. Managers can't really find these abusers (not up to the extent or number mentioned here). If such a huge racket is being run by these abusers, I believe that bounty managers need to take some very strict decisions (actions) and make things really hard for such shady behaviors and only let unique and real people join the bounty and work for it, so as to stop these bots from abusing the whole system. Shit, can't even think of how much these bastards (one person or group) could have snatched away from these bounties that was the right of those innocent people who lose the chance due to bounties getting filled already.

Long story short, even if the manager committed error, he might have already removed you from the campaign next week itself. Tell me how are you assuming that you lose $900? Are you just making an assumption that you'd have remained in the campaign till its end? What if you'd have been removed next week itself for no reason based on the campaign manager's policy? Either you've gone totally insane or you're fighting just for the sake of the missed payment of those 7 posts. Getting into a campaign doesn't really guarantee your long term relationship with the same, you're not entitled to remain in a campaign till its end as each campaign has a policy to remove a user, they believe, doesn't fit to their requirements in any means and/or for any reasons.

Not a shitshow, but manipulation. The real cause of ETFs not being approved lately is manipulation of markets, so badly that SEC thinks it might be a gamble to risk investors' money into crypto.


Don't compare Winklevoss ETF with the one filed by CBOE, as there's literally no competition because CBOE holds an institutional position and Winklevoss brothers are just a piece of cake in front of CBOE if compared. CBOE is completely indulged into getting this thing approved, and even if it delays as I said before, BTC will still continue sideways and/or a possible dip to ~$4000 to kill the longs currently and flush out the weakest of all, testing the strength of real investors.


It's being said that ~25 Bitcoins worth of shares will be purchased per contract if ETF gets approved, and so is there the demand for the same. I believe what happened to Winklevoss ETF was destiny, but what will happen with CBOE ETF will create history. 

Ok, I believe I misunderstood when you said that he asked you to delete the remaining posts, but I believe those were the posts showcasing his issues.


July 24 or July 20? Or is it between July 21 & July 24?
Anyways, I've seen that and yes, I do believe that you're correct in that matter.


But, I've been following the campaign's thread since its start and to my knowledge, there was no price change (as whenever I saw the title post, it always showed $120/week only). What kind of pay increase are you talking about?


Yes, I've read all their previous accusations and found that many of them were declared as resolved, didn't get so deep into the theory but I believe this one should be given higher priority if what you said, did happen.


Btw, I've got one only and that's enough to bang mouths off. /s  

Sorry for the interruption here guys, not bumping this thread but I need to make myself understand a few things here. I'll be putting everything one by one:

This one's for jeremypwr:
- Someone told me that there's no restriction on the number of posts a person can make on the forum in a day (not at least if the posts are of good quality). I've seen many members making more than 30 posts daily (I won't be disclosing names here) and their posts were helpful to the community which is why even moderators didn't delete them. What I don't understand here is: The rule of your campaign says that "Maximum of 8 posts/day will be counted towards total post count", so how it makes someone restricted to making posts more than 8 a day? They can post as much as they want and you can only count 8 of them per day according to the rule, right? So, where did the need arises for you to ask the user WaffleMaster to delete their posts? You might have paid them for the total posts considering 8 posts/day and not their ^12 posts^ for that day. You might have removed them for kinda post- bursting if they committed it. Nowhere under the rules section can I find anything like that written that a user is RESTRICTED to making 8 posts ONLY per day. Mind explaining me where am I wrong here?

This one's for WaffleMaster:
- You've been playing all well before I saw you claiming the services of Bet oh sorry, Bitcasino [FTFY] and Sportsbet scam. You started everything with the manager and your fight was for the money you wanted for your work and jeremypwr was the manager to deal with it. Now tell me, what made you think that the mentioned websites and/or their employees are scam? Didn't you ask the question to the manager that I asked here currently? And when it was clearly written by the manager over the campaign's OP that "I can remove you from the Campaign at any time, for whatever reason", why couldn't you just take it and move on? What's all this drama for? He said he was ready to pay you, then why?