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2641  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 18, 2019, 11:39:11 PM
i dont know/remember |Admiral| i dont know why i have positive feedback from him
i didnt make investigation about Admiral and dont know he as scammer
Why do you have Admiral in your trust list then?
i not remember and still not started investigation
You don't know why you have Admiral in trust list?
You must remember the reason why you excluded these members and why you suggested people to exclude them:
Quote
~ Vod
~ SaltySpitoon
~ TMAN
~ Lauda
~ Blazed
~ suchmoon
~ owlcatz
~ yahoo62278
~ actmyname
~ Lutpin
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2642  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 18, 2019, 09:36:30 PM
i dont know/remember |Admiral| i dont know why i have positive feedback from him
i didnt make investigation about Admiral and dont know he as scammer
Why do you have Admiral in your trust list then?
2643  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 18, 2019, 03:15:00 PM
But of course TMAN is the bad guy here for bringing this all up!
Very very bad man.

They probably didn't read this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust
Quote
List the users who you trust to have good trust ratings and good trust lists

Going to check other accounts listed in topic.

Update:

Quote
madnessteat
    theymos
    minerjones
    MaoChao
    LoyceV
    TheFuzzStone
    xenon131
    Xal0lex
    chimk
    Alex_Sr
    taikuri13


2644  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 18, 2019, 01:51:06 PM
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Thanks. I will also check accounts manually and I will exclude them all(except xandry, but I have to check something first).

I will update this post shortly with my reason.

Xenon131 has added escrow scammer(quacksy) to trust network and peloso has added scammer |Admiral| who has default on loan and there is solid connection between Admiral and pinkman, chivasregal and some other accounts. I don't know who is owner of the account at the moment as account has probably changed hand. It can't be trusted.

They don't have good trust lists. Trust list with scammer on it is very bad list.

Dabljat included xenon131
taikuri131 included xenon131
MaoChao included peloso and xenon131
xenon131 included peloso and vice versa
TheFuzzStone included xenon131
biom33 included taikuri13
Rooivalk included TheFuzzStone  

Hope this is clear.
2645  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 18, 2019, 12:20:41 AM
you say peloso trying manipulate but you lie
i see here your manipulation like this  (~ takav mrak ) and this (~ Triz ) there is no such names
next time please dont lie
I translated thread from Russian to Croatian and then to English. Above should be quotation, but accidentally, I quoted translated post, I mean I forget to put it under quotation. Will edit post.

You are trying to manipulate, that is obvious.
2646  Economy / Reputation / Re: Reference post: Why have I excluded members on my trust list? on: January 18, 2019, 12:11:31 AM
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You shouldn't set up trust list and send/change trust feedback based on your emotions.
2647  Other / Meta / Re: Massive abuse in the Russian section. on: January 17, 2019, 11:34:48 PM
Your session timed out while posting. Please try to re-submit your message.
Every day I learn something new.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096402.0;all


#1 DabLjat explains 1) how to modify trust list. 2) They posted their trust list and suggest others to do the same and also as I understand, they suggested everyone to create custom trust list

#2 TheFuzzStone said thanks to DabLjat for including them in trust list, but they also asked DabLjat why they did it, they didn't cooperate(probably mean trade or something)

#3 Dabljat respect TFS

#4 TFS asked Dabljat what will change for russian community if someone there get DT1 status

#5 don't understand. Dabljat said there is not a single Russian member in DT1.

#6 TFS doesn't know how DT works. Other parts are lost in translation.

#7 discussing exactly this Theymos's post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg49163910#msg49163910 and literally listed people the same way as theymos did.

#8 xsenon "how to see someones trust list"

#9 @Dabljat something about "local should be united" but can be wrong translation.

#10 xenon something about exclude people you don't trust with ~ and include people who you trust.

#11 xenon tomorrow is voting for DT

#12 TFS to xenon, you can remove DefaultTrust and manually add people to trust list. "If I understand correctly, if you remove DefaultTrust from your trust list, you won't see ratings from DT1 and DT2 members"

#13 Dabljat Yes, you understand correctly.

#14 TFS "can it be considered as manipulation of trust system?  Cheesy"

#15 xenon, if I translated this correctly said, something about "few forum members took advantage because everyone is "running" on default trust".  Suggested to remove DefaultTrust, and if I understand correctly to exclude some users who they don't trust...or who manipulate  because if they don't exclude users they will have 0 instead of -1. Can be wrong translation.

16,17,18 irrelevant for this thread in my opinoin

#20 biom33 some random questions about DT

#22 TFS said his english is very bad and some users attacked him in meta because of his thread.

#23 DabLjat said Lauda doesn't want them(probably meant Russian) in DT.

#24 xenon thinks that there is group who controls DT and that that they think Russians are inferior. Also said that he wouldn't waste time discussing with that group.

#25 TFS said that it seems like they think Russians are inferior.

#26 TFS breaks forum rules. Also linked theymos's post from "new DT" thread and asked "how to understand this"

#27 taikuri13 explains theymos's post.

#28, 29 discussing theymos's post.

#30 Dabljat said that local "candidates" for DT are xandry chimk esmanthra but non of them has trust list.

#31 taikuri13 believes TheFussZone should be added to this list. Also mentioned that trust is "personal choice" and no one should ask someone to include/exclude people you trust from trust network.

#33 Alex_Sr supports TheFussZone and added them to their trust list.

#34 MaoChao, I belive he said trust system =/= trade system.

#35 - 45 discussing trust system, nothing wrong here

#36 TFS, well, you can click links posted in thread.

#37 peloso: "Lauda is junky and bitch, cmon, lets all add this to trust list ~Lauda"  
Posted his list and excluded many members of current DT form his trust network.

#38 TFS said "it is not good to be angry, I will still publish news about Monero. I suggest everyone to set his trust list based on their "conscience". This could be wrongly translated, it can also mean "put people you trust on your trust list and distrust people you don't trust"

#39-50 discussing about system

#51 TFS about his trust list, he trust people he put in his list. I won't translate other parts because it can have hidden meaning but also it doesn't mean it does.

#52 taikuri, if I understand correctly, said, it is good to have DT in Russian because they won't need to post in english section reports about bounty abusers, cheaters, scammers, account farmers, they will be able to do it in Russian board and tag accordingly.

#53 Rooivalk posted his trust list.

#54 peloso want's Russian united and suggested everyone to exclude these members:
Quote
~Vod
~SaltySpitoon
~TMAN
~Lauda
~Blazed
~aTriz
~suchmoon
~owlcatz
~yahoo62278
~actmyname
~Lutpin
http://archive.is/yNmaO#selection-18349.0-18369.7 unedited post.

#55 xandry said "put reference link to your trust ratting" nothing wrong here. Didn't comment above post.

#56 chimk ordinary post.

#57 Alex_sr points farming ring they exposed and something about trust system. Normal post.

#58 xanon - links thread where it is explained how to see someone's trust list.

#58 Alex_sr said it is easier to see someone trust list if you add person to your trust network and click on trust.

#59 random shitpost

#60 - #73 discussing trust system

#74 MaoChao created his trust list.

#75 - 90 discussing trust system, merit abuse, farming accounts, trading accounts etc.

#91 peloso trolling

#92 xenon131 discussing trust system. Quoted theymos as well.

That's it from me, I don't see anything wrong in this discussion except peloso person is trying to manipulate with people and some shitting on Lauda. So far it seems like regular discussion.
@ LoyceV can you scrap trust lists of all accounts mentioned in topic?

Edit #2) that is 92/157 posts. I didn't translate most of other posts.
2648  Economy / Reputation / Re: S_Therapist = mdayonliner on: January 17, 2019, 08:46:46 PM
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Can you do this for:

S_Therapist https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2423416
utlptc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1460928
Jrashid  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2313339
pkmoney https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=156044

And this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49261455#msg49261455 ?
2649  Economy / Reputation / Re: Russian moderator Xal0lex uses alt profile to insult forum members on: January 17, 2019, 01:47:47 PM
I deleted my post simply because I thought it redundant, unnecessary.
How quoting staked address can be redundant, unnecessary?

That post would still quote someone else. And I considered it unnecessary to post. What's wrong?

Thank you.

This means, Xal0lex quoted Phetis's post, then deleted post and after this some random account quotes post. Correct me if I am wrong.
2650  Economy / Reputation / Re: Russian moderator Xal0lex uses alt profile to insult forum members on: January 17, 2019, 12:13:50 AM
I deleted my post simply because I thought it redundant, unnecessary.
How quoting staked address can be redundant, unnecessary?
2651  Economy / Reputation / Re: Ponzi Scheme promoter and multiple language translator. on: January 16, 2019, 11:55:53 PM
Because scam is not moderated, read it here

On the other hand, they spam scam all over the forum, so you can report them to moderator and they will do their thing.
2652  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: coinfeel.io - SCAM - FAKE TEAM on: January 16, 2019, 11:25:22 PM
Stealing dead person's photo? New low for ICO scams.
I remember one "project" used picture of a dead man https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4670059.0.

Later, ICOethics run scam accusation against "charity" ICO https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4872748.0, they complained that we are using their "private" information without permission so part of the thread was moved to investigation board .  morvillz7z  figured out that both "projects" have been run by the same person.
It was big drama. Threats with lawsuits and so on.

Good work OP  Smiley
2653  Other / Meta / I like new DT on: January 16, 2019, 11:00:30 PM


I am not used to see so much activity in DT.

Much shotgunning.

Good job @Theymos. Active DT is good DT Smiley
2654  Economy / Reputation / Re: Russian moderator Xal0lex uses alt profile to insult forum members on: January 16, 2019, 10:10:36 PM
This user has a biased attitude towards me. We had some disagreements with him. All this is related to the topic of worldcore and the ban of the user Marina Uni for plagiarism, in due time.
This is irrelevant.

The forum has hundreds of thousands of users. The dates of the last activity on the forum can be approximately the same for many users.
 How can infer from the last activity that the accounts are alts?

Is this alts too?


.....................................................................

That's ridiculous.
FTFY.

What is connection between OP and account DownWitDaBlockChain ?

Did Veleor quoted DownWitDaBlockChain's staked address and deleted post, which all happened after newbie account posted something against you?
2655  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Appeal RegulusHr on: January 16, 2019, 04:04:34 PM
Would You, my-local-people, agree to un-ban account, disable signature and remove regulus from merit source? It's not that it's going to happen anyway.
So lets make it clear here
if instead
"Electrum Dark will be usefull on trading once its platform become live. My full support on the project and will contribute for your success."
he wrote
""Electrum Dark will be usefull on trading once its platform is alive. I fully support the project and will contribute to its success.""
it would be OK, if we will be strict about following rules?
najveća krivnja mu ispada što nije kupio posting bota da mu malo ispremiješa tekst prije postanja
?
Testing grounds for text spinner? Well, that is fastest way to get permaban.
2656  Economy / Reputation / Re: S_Therapist = mdayonliner on: January 16, 2019, 01:54:11 PM
I've read whole thread again.

The loan money was back using another payment method of the local.
I don't see S_Therapist disagreed with this statement.

It was pointed(with bold letters) several times:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49213483#msg49213483
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49213988#msg49213988
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg49229490#msg49229490

And then you said:

The loan money was back using another payment method of the local.
- Sorry this was wrong.... He paid me the loan back in BTC.

Why S_Therapist didn't say this statement is wrong and that he repaid loan using bitcoin and not "another payment method of the local"?

Why is he not responding here? He doesn't know how to write anymore or something?
2657  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: January 16, 2019, 02:57:58 AM
They use (for DICE) client seed + server seed + nonce where only nonce changes, only way to manipulate this is to show wrong result. Unless there is proof they are doing it, it shouldn't be mentioned in this thread at all.
2658  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: January 16, 2019, 01:39:48 AM
Apparently he was given 0.08 first, but then they increased it to 0.2BTC. If this was meant to be hush money, perhaps. I think they felt with the guy though (from the conversations I've seen screenshots of).
Such thing doesn't exist in this space. Casino isn't charity organization. There must be specific reason why player was funded with additional 0.12btc, if it was for a bug then everyone else should also receive 0.2btc, if it is because his plinko win was big then something is wrong here.
I think if the "correct" outcomes from the OP playing the new game would have resulted in the OP having sufficient funds to make the plinko bets up until he won the jackpot, the entire jackpot should be paid out.

If the above is not the case, the floor the OP should receive is what MadZ suggested above. However there are other considerations that would make me believe the OP should receive more, such as FJ essentially "freerolling" their players, and the possibility that the OP may have made different sized rolls had he had a different bankroll size.
I have to agree with you.
2659  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ETH777 is a fuckin scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (eth777.io) on: January 16, 2019, 12:41:51 AM

One of the 'New Generation' Ponzi schemes, reinvented for a new crop of victims with an ETH "smart contract" attached, which admins claim means all is legit.....  Roll Eyes
They run one scam after another (333eth, eth777, 555eth, 200percent, 150percent etc), what bugs me here is that one similar scam passed audit, metamask unblock them which gives them that false "we are legit" look and it is easier to lure more victims into their frauds.
Of course, scheme collapsed and they run away https://333eth.io/.
2660  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: January 15, 2019, 11:43:23 PM
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Hm, ok...
Has everyone else received 0.2BTC as compensation for Adrenaline bug(not plinko bug) or only you?
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