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2701  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 04, 2013, 07:07:32 AM
For the first time in btc-history Mt.Gox lost his 30day volume leadership.


This IS historic! Poor Karpeles Sad

With free trading, anyone could.  You could build an exchange on your notebook that trades with itself and have beaten gox with free trading.
2702  Economy / Goods / Re: GOLD & Silver Sellers on: November 04, 2013, 05:36:21 AM
I have a list of over 350 of them, myself included (for New Liberty Dollar and Bitcoin specie, as well as other cryptocurrency minting projects).  In addition to the others mentioned already I favor Bitgild.com in the EU and AgoraCommodities.com in the US.  Both take bitcoin payment and participate in the bitcoin economy by purchasing with it as well, they provide a great retail experience and serve their communities very well, strongly advocating the bitcoin solutions and offering not just the government mintings but also select private mintings.
And 2weiX.  Also recommended.
2703  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: November 04, 2013, 05:12:33 AM

Probably not the best argument.  If you look around the planet at the places with the most population growth, they are mostly those places with more religiosity.

Yes, these are all the places with the least education.  In countries with high education you see religious beliefs plummet.

Yes, as well as population growth.
2704  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: November 04, 2013, 04:59:56 AM
Belief in god may thus contribute to evolutionary success if it yields these benefits, which may explain a part of why it persists.

As belief in a god has fallen, human population and education has risen.

Religion only persists because people pass on the lies (brainwash) to their children who don't know any better.  If people would let their children decide for themselves then religion would disappear in a generation.  

Probably not the best argument.  If you look around the planet at the places with the most population growth, they are mostly those places with more religiosity.


Useful lies tend to persist much longer than useless ones in the minds in which they take root.  Basic memetics.  Consider whether there may be more than one reason religions persist.
2705  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-03 Reuters - Chip designers see dollar signs in Bitcoin miners on: November 04, 2013, 04:56:11 AM
I'm with you there.  This is the impetus behind the Bitcoin specie.  Broadening the acceptance of bitcoin with a tangible pocket change.  Like the silver dollars were in the US between the times we had central banking, and they increase confidence for the new adopters.
2706  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: November 04, 2013, 04:35:39 AM
It may be less about god deserving love, or proofs of existence, than the benefit people get from loving.

Love sustains us, emboldens us, and being loved gives us strength. People thrive more with it than without it.
There is sufficient scientific and empirical evidence for this.

Belief in god may thus contribute to evolutionary success if it yields these benefits, which may explain a part of why it persists.



If you have a goal of dispensing with the belief, you would have to first provide the benefits needed to replace what it offers.

This is also the lesson of bitcoin, to fiat, which I suspect is a much more feasible replacement proposition, and thus perhaps a better use of our energies.
2707  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Competition in the Emergency Room Marketplace? on: November 04, 2013, 04:03:04 AM
A legislative cap will discourage extraordinary measures to save children that are currently standard.
It's currently possible to receive treatment in the US at one hospital for $10,000, yet the same exact treatment down the street would cost only $5000 [citation needed]. All the consumer can do is try to have injuries closer to the cheaper one. A well-written law (?) might be able to fix this problem in a way that I can't see market dynamics doing.

Emergency healthcare is a rather unique situation in which there's no room for competition.

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Healthcare = the death business.

The provider incentive is to keep you alive and dieing as long as possible on the highest margin profitable treatment.
The consumer incentive is not to die (which hasn't ever happened).
The secondary incentive is not to be impoverished or uncomfortable.

These incentives will be the same whether it is free market or non-competitive governmental single-payer.
This part makes sense, but I'm not really focusing on tax-funded health care in this topic.

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The question is...
What can Bitcoin do to fix this?  Anything?

Perhaps we shall see.
I suspect price is not the only difference between your hypothetical hospitals.

When lawmakers set the price of things, the first thing bought is the lawmakers.
2708  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 04, 2013, 02:05:11 AM
Mt Gox's kitchen on the other hand....
They have Fukashima with which to contend, who can blame them?
2709  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 04, 2013, 01:58:34 AM
If they are matching internally, they are doing so poorly if they can get them off exchange less expensively.
Maybe.

Suppose their ability to send international wires in sufficient quantities was not scaling with their growth in BTC sales volume. In that case they'd have no choice but raise prices both to encourage more people to sell them bitcoins for USA, and to reduce the amount of BTC they have to source externally.

Right, that may well be.  Which suggests a forward indication as they take about a week to award the coins bought there to the Coinbase cloud wallet, so not even transferable elsewhere.
2710  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 04, 2013, 01:50:51 AM
Coinbase buy price is >219, where are they getting them?
Maybe Coinbase has increased their commission? Or perhaps they are seeing enough BTC->USD business to start matching orders internally instead of relying on the exchanges?
This is their rate before commission.  They add .5%  If they are matching internally, they are doing so poorly if they can get them off exchange less expensively.  I haven't seen what exchange they are meant to be sourcing from, if it is themselves it is an opaque exchange entirely.

I should check the cooler, maybe they have some on ice.
2711  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: November 04, 2013, 01:43:02 AM
I have no problem at all with god.  Its the humans that claim to know things about god that cause the problems.

9-11 is a decent example for USAians, but really there are too many to list.
2712  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTB] Silver & Gold - Precious Metals - PAYING BTC - SEND OFFERS on: November 04, 2013, 01:39:44 AM
Are you looking for Bullion?
I buy at Monex spot ask rate in 1000 oz blocks good delivery bars, on a fairly regular basis for minting the Bitcoin Specie pieces and New Liberty dollars.  I can hook you up.
2713  Economy / Collectibles / Re: New Bitcoin Specie by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: November 04, 2013, 01:37:03 AM
For orders from the USA, dollars by direct deposit to either Wells Fargo or Chase bank will get these sent to you same day. Just like a bitcoin payment.
2714  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 04, 2013, 01:32:01 AM
wow, bitstamp is just flying up today! 212.97.... was nervous for a minute, glad i held onto my coins!  Cheesy
Coinbase buy price is >219, where are they getting them?
2715  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: November 04, 2013, 01:13:09 AM
It is not that God could not just grow a leg or arm from nowhere if He so chose to do that.  I guess it is more that He appears to work with the natural laws of our world as much as possible and regardless of how uncomfortable it is to live without an arm or legs or arms and legs like this amazing guy : http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org/  living without limbs is not something that is deadly.  It seems God intervenes more when the person's life could be lost.  Perhaps He has more for them to accomplish on this earth? 

lol   Roll Eyes   How can you intelligently argue with someone so ignorant about reality?    (hint: you can't)

Humans are figuring out how to do this (rebuild limbs) but followers of god forbid it.
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/Regenerative_Medicine/Pages/Chapter11.aspx
2716  Economy / Collectibles / Re: New Bitcoin Specie by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: November 04, 2013, 12:21:06 AM
As predicted, another premium discount is in the countdown.
Started EOD Nov 2, so if bitcoin pricing stays strong relative to silver we get another slight decrease in your prices (the part that is the premium, you get more silver per bitcoin automatically based on coldhardca.sh).
Large wholesale orders (>500 pieces) can take advantage of either free shipping or early discount.
2717  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Meetup near OC? on: November 03, 2013, 11:24:16 PM
There is one coming up in Hollywood.
http://www.meetup.com/Hollywood-Bitcoin/events/145084432/
2718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should the Creator of Bitcoin come forward? on: November 03, 2013, 11:16:17 PM
There would also have to be some undeniable proof for someone to believe it's really Satoshi.
It would be trivially easy for Satoshi to prove his/her/their identify. That's one of the things cryptography is really good at.

Or to make it ultimately unprovable, publishing private keys.
2719  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What should be the Goal(s) of Government? on: November 03, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Your logic is coercive! Wink

I did see a typo though...
If man is incapable of governing himself, man is incapable of governing others.  Ergo, either anarchism is possible or we are ruled not by mortal moral men.
2720  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: November 03, 2013, 10:48:28 PM
What god, or belief in god, gets in the way of love?
Followers of god have decreed that we are to only love a single person in our generation.  Many have found love in more than one, but their god forbids this, equating it with "coveting" or similar.
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