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2781  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2013, 08:17:21 AM
 seems like someone doesn't like the CHOO CHOO
2782  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2013, 06:50:10 AM
told you so CHOO CHOO
2783  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I buy right now or wait? on: December 08, 2013, 06:46:35 PM
the one million question you are asking here, If I Knew I would make allot of money Smiley

2784  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 03:49:04 PM
Im not convinced yet that we surely enter a bear market from here, this is not typical bounce, first of all "crash" should have been deeper and the following bounce more violent. If halfway holds, I mean 128 - 650 - 1163 or isn't broke more than few times with bounce, then we maybe are still in bull market.

I agree https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362406.0
2785  Economy / Speculation / Bitcoin Price, will it drop/raise or stabilize at this point ? on: December 08, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
to everyone think that price will drop to $300-500!!!

there must be an instant dump of  8000+ BTC in order to crash price to $600
there must be an instant dump of 25000+ BTC in order to crash price to $500
there must be an instant dump of 45000+ BTC in order to crash price to $300


to everyone think that price will 1jump over $1200+

there must be an instant buy order of 10000+ BTC in order the price will jump back to $1200






you still think you will see $300-500 ?  you still believe the price wont go over 1200 ? I really would reconsider my plans at this point... you have to reconsider your plans, my opinion is that the next couple of weeks we will have another race up.

declaimer: do not take my advice! I am no financial expert, I am just expressing my opinions.




2786  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
stamp 730
gox 733
btce 734

And it was 'normally' easily 10% between Stamp and Gox, and no-one really thought that unusual, right?

Now it has been less than 1.5 % for some time.

Must be by design and may explain the hammering down of the Gox price to start the bot engine off...  Only a theory, and they coudl all diverge in 10 minutes, but it just looks like they are much more closely linked now.

And it's Sunday - a good time withthin trading to start up, meaning you play the spread properly when the pro money kicks off on Monday having tested it out...?

Hmm....  

EDIT: more like under 1.5% sorry

yes it is not usual that stamp or BTC-e are at the same or more than gox simply because it is a pain to get money out of gox so you have to buy bitcoins and withdraw them elsewhere...
2787  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 12:24:42 PM
wow that 2600 BTC was instantly bought
2788  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 12:24:07 PM
interesting that this happens only at gox, BTCchina holding so good, Bitstamp and BTc-e higher than gox ? talk about madness !!!
2789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 12:20:50 PM
a dump of over 1300+ BTC is happening now at Gox

and a sell wall of 900 BTC at 700, manipulators doesn't want to give up yet

edit: make it 1000+ BTC wall at 700
2790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 11:25:33 AM
Mirsad, da te sada mama čuje.

Anyway, I think we are going down to 300 and not up to 3000.

bi njemo jaja odrezala hahahahah
2791  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 10:32:13 AM
Not everybody. Still have 40% fiat @ exchanges.
It's allways good to have money to buy dips.

You're losing shitload if you have 40% of your stash in fiat while price go to the moon, then it doesn't much help to buy in dips.

Losing?
No! Probably you don't get it. It's not real profit till you sell. If everyone is going to sell @ 10k, there won't be 10k, rather 1$.

Btw I have a lot more then 40% in fiat/gold/appartments. Bitcoin is just my high risk playmoney. It will never be lifechanging, because I have a better life then 99.99% on earth.

I dont put my future in some genious pyramide scheme. Everbody can change his life without the money of others.

Your belief that your fiat/gold/apartments/BTC holdings makes your life better than 99.99% of the people on earth is pretty indicative of your horizon and take on life, which makes me personally think your life quality is pretty shitty compared to most people with views on life less focused on holdings and money.

+1

I don't know why people with shit load of money think that they win in life, I was raised in a poor family and I had the best childhood and memories, having more money didn't make me happier...
2792  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 10:30:12 AM
Not everybody. Still have 40% fiat @ exchanges.
It's allways good to have money to buy dips.

You're losing shitload if you have 40% of your stash in fiat while price go to the moon, then it doesn't much help to buy in dips.

Losing?
No! Probably you don't get it. It's not real profit till you sell. If everyone is going to sell @ 10k, there won't be 10k, rather 1$.

Btw I have a lot more then 40% in fiat/gold/appartments. Bitcoin is just my high risk playmoney. It will never be lifechanging, because I have a better life then 99.99% on earth.

I dont put my future in some genious pyramide scheme. Everbody can change his life without the money of others.

did you just say a pyramid, you my mirsad Bosnian or Turkish right ? it doesn't matter but you have no clue of what pyramid scheme is.....  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
2793  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 10:09:22 AM
the ugliest thing is that is happening over the weekend, no money deposits and there is nothing we can do about it, except if you want to risk and sell now and wait the price to drop so you can buy lower there nothing else to do.

and I think this is what is happening the price wont go higher because allot of us are sitting and waiting for something to happen, or the other traders who are selling now to catch a lower price to buy back and I think the second ones are crashing the price....



If this price holds today tomorrow we will have a big race, we can jump from this price to over 1000 in a matter of couple of days


Why do we need more money?
All sold coins were traded with fiat money.

We just need more money when the price was not sustainable and that is still the case.
Price could dropt lower.

With new money the price will rise and a lot of buyers are going to taje profit > selling preasure

I bought @ 420-450 € this crash, so I'll sell 20-60% @ 700-800€.

sell to whom at 700-800 ? every one who bought at that price is holding Bitcoins, and everyone with cash in exchanges already bought at near bottom the same like you, we need fresh money in to push the price up
2794  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2013, 09:57:36 AM
the ugliest thing is that is happening over the weekend, no money deposits and there is nothing we can do about it, except if you want to risk and sell now and wait the price to drop so you can buy lower there nothing else to do.

and I think this is what is happening the price wont go higher because allot of us are sitting and waiting for something to happen, or the other traders who are selling now to catch a lower price to buy back and I think the second ones are crashing the price....



If this price holds today tomorrow we will have a big race, we can jump from this price to over 1000 in a matter of couple of days
2795  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2013, 09:00:41 PM
I am beginning to wonder if I am the only person here who does not live his parents, has a car which cost more than a thousand bucks, a nice sofa and er.... a girlfriend.

Maybe I am not nerdy enough and that's why I have not go as many coins as others seems to have Wink



No , you're not:)

allot of members here are married and have kids and independent life Wink
2796  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
the most important thing is that this crash is not china related, I see the dumps happening only at gox, china holding really good... in fact I think that china who brought the price back
2797  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2013, 07:39:16 PM
wow the price still holding at 700
2798  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2013, 07:38:44 PM
2K BTC was just dumped
2799  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2013, 07:35:47 PM
wow annother big dump is happening now ... who said low volume before ? 1000+ BTC was just dumped, here is your volume, yet the price is still at 700
2800  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2013, 07:30:32 PM
It is too stable to be cashing more, I think the crash has ended, the big sellers collected their money and everyone is past panicking now, the problem is that this happened over the weekend so no new money coming into exchanges except if people with weak hands decides to buy back. otherwise I don't expect any more huge action maybe the actual price +-50.

the biggest problem is that we had 3 major crashes, two only this year, this might push away some people were willing to invest.

What do you think about mtgox btc actual volume (105,150 currently) ?

I think the volume is low because everyone is just waiting on standby, everyone sellers and buyers (yes I said buyers) want the price to go up, but no one wants to engage first we are all waiting something to happen.

in other words this crash brought some confusion even for the old professional traders, this are my thoughts...
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