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2901  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase 1099-K to be sent. Confused on details on receiving one? on: March 08, 2018, 11:50:31 PM
What does the 200 transactions mean, I am assuming it is 200 USD withdrawals?

Well I did 20,000 usd or more in 2017.  But less than 200 transactions. So had no
1099 sent. Cash outs for mining in my case. Anyway how it shook out for me.
2902  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: March 07, 2018, 11:05:09 PM
How to compare 16Th with Asicboost to a miner without Asicboost? Is 16Th with Asicboost equivalent to 16Th without Asicboost in terms of mining profit?

It's 16th with Asicboost, if you run it on a pool that doesn't support AsicBoost it performs much worse (1/4 speed I read). So basically forget about AsicBoost in comparing just know that this is a 16th miner that only works on pools that support AsicBoost vs the S9 which is a 13TH miner that works on any pool.

Also pools that support ASIC boost are essentially Bitcoin Cash pools right? From what I understand ASIC boost does not work on Bitcoin Core Seq Witness...

2903  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:56:39 PM
Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
Now hiding Grin

You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on

NOTE: When I get a GF (yeah, right) NEVER TELL HER ANYTHING ABOUT CRYPTO! (note to self)

2904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: March 07, 2018, 06:46:15 PM
Hey. mining has become quite unprofitable for a long time. if anyone can prove otherwise to me, I'd love to have a precious experience.

2013 KNC 550gh Jupiter Miner BTC miner. (ROI'd in 3 weeks) Smiley

2014-1st half of 2015...nothing available of any note as NEW equipment...bought only used till July 2015...(see below)

2015 got SIX KNC Liquidation 5 cube (new) 400mh units for $1,900.00 and (1) KNC 4 cube (new) 300mh unit for $1,800 on Ebay Corp Dump. Total of 7 new units. Smiley

Starting, April 1st, 2016 got (Cool Bitmain units, four L3's at 250mh and four L3+ units at 500mh by July...during the $4.15 to $50 pump. Got (4) more L3+'s last arrived in Sept.

All units EXCEPT the 2013 Jupiter are still earning PROFITS and All my units, EVER, have ROI'd.

I have not found ANYTHING since (September 2016) worth swapping crypto for ASIC equipment..so you may have a point.

So yeah, it is rare, 2016 was the exception for scrypt-pow machines...I have KNC Titans that have been running 24/7 since Nov 8th 2014...still profitable...

...and I may have another couple years, after this, only chasing down USED ASIC equipment...but as you see above...mining can make you $$$ if lucky!

brad

2905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: March 07, 2018, 05:51:49 PM
hmm in the usa you can instantly depreciate your hardware using section 178 in 2017 and now with trumps new tax plan the cap is removed.....  Just saying

I’m doing so. But I’m told by cpa it is 25% in real $$$ back on equipment, on taxes
You would pay anyway. If you don’t make enough for that, it is a loss. This means I’m
basically a Farmer, equipment wise.

Problem is I need to overkill month to month at beginning of the year, in that my
Legacy miners may be doorstop mode by June. Also price dump at end of year could
Make hard for me to catch-up.

Also, if I do have a lot of extra $$$ by being to cautious, as a self employed business
I can fund a solo401k at $24k plus. Then once funded, flip back into crypto. With this
$24k acting like Equipment and all available to deduct from gross income.

But the solo 401k can only be funded from self-employment setup. Again how long
Can I mine. So playing it tight first 1/2 of year mining or equipment.

Pm me details if questions. I may not be using proper terms. (Thus CPA)

I never got into doing taxes this way mainly due to me hodling and long term cap gains tax being so ridiculously low (0% or 15% depending on your bracket). And the equipment is often resold at a substantial price or even at a profit, which makes depreciation less useful since I still have to pay taxes on the sale.

$24k... shows your age Smiley us youngsters can only do 18k.



yeah....the solo 401k is a nice trick...you can do more than 24K if you make a lot more $$...so less risk of me getting equipment..in that the self-employed solo 401k

ACTS like equipment and comes of gross income (mining) and once converted to $$$ to get into the solo401k you can convert back to crypto and play with it, within

the solo401k sandbox...hell...that is a NO BRAINER ...not as much dubious ASIC miner purchase risk (not that I can find any hardware that makes sense now over just

Hodl'ing coin). Also...with the amount of FUD being pumped out today and the price in the $9.5k range....more roller coaster too boot ..it seems....crypto always drama...
2906  Economy / Speculation / Re: Apocalypse BTC! How low will it go? on: March 07, 2018, 05:44:01 PM
Damn! I'm the OP and I want this thread to die.....jeez.....anyway here we are again, with the usual FUD below:



The FUD seems fierce today!

https://www.ccn.com/south-korean-officials-prohibited-holding-trading-cryptocurrency/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-07/bitcoin-s-tokyo-whale-sold-400-million-and-he-s-not-done-yet

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-sec-crypto/u-s-regulator-urges-registration-of-cryptocurrency-exchanges-idUSL2N1QP18O


As to myself, I think I jinxed crypto....sigh.....the karma of the Universe can't let me retire..it would throw the Universe on its head on such a puzzle...


1) On the one hand, have enough $$ to live on my lovely ghetto suburban lifestyle w/o issue...with traditional stocks and no debt...did not do so...still was working...

2) Then it became evident in 2017 I have enough crypto to (if had to panic sell) and live in the lovely ghetto suburban lifestyle w/o traditional investments above...still was working

3) When BTC went above 10k with other Alts also up....cracked like a walnut and retired on 1/14/18... want to go 3 years and live off crypto till I'm 66 years
   and then touch traditional investments and social security at full benefits...mining this year.....cash out alts next 2 years....BTC hoard safe Smiley

Well, maybe I jinxed the works...but that is the goal..thus riding waves...it is not like under any circumstances 'likely' I will do any worse

then my current ghetto suburban lifestyle that I had working...indeed.....this price keeps me from blowing crypto on retirement.....it is a cruel fate!

So the fickle, finger of FUD repeats itself!

2907  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 05:37:37 PM
everybody still got some stumach to ride some waves ??



1) On the one hand, have enough $$ to live on my lovely ghetto suburban lifestyle w/o issue...with traditional stocks and no debt...did not do so...still was working...

2) Then it became evident in 2017 I have enough crypto to (if had to panic sell) and live in the lovely suburban lifestyle w/o traditional investments above...still was working

3) When BTC went above 10k with other Alts also up....cracked like a walnut and retired on 1/14/18... want to go 3 years and live off crypto till I'm 66 years
   and then touch traditional investments and social security at full benefits...mining this year.....cash out alts next 2 years....BTC hoard safe Smiley

Well, maybe I jinxed the works...but that is the goal..thus riding waves...it is not like under any circumstances 'likely' I will do any worse

then my current ghetto suburban lifestyle that I had working...indeed.....this price keeps me from blowing crypto on retirement.....it is a cruel fate!

So yeah, riding the WAVE......which seems to be trying to drown me lately Sad

2908  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 05:29:01 PM

So this effects something like www.shapeshift.io or any/all domestic and international exchanges...ie they ALL must be registered with SEC?
2909  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 02:32:30 PM
Will the bearwhales attack 10k again this weekend? I'm gambling on 'yes' by putting up a low buy order. If that doesn't get filled, fine too.

well..could it be the mt. gox trustee? just dribbling out stuff....(only 1.5 billion dollars to go)

https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/mt-gox-trustee-liquidates-massive-amount-btc-bch/


we could go 'sideways' in price for a 'long time' if that is the case (or worse if they flub it)

2910  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 05:03:15 AM
Somehow whenever I see an Economist talk I lose more respect for the bunch. And I'm quite fond of Economics in general, too bad it's infested with intellectual toddlers and liars.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/forget-100000-bitcoin-says-kenneth-rogoff-try-100-instead-2018-03-06

But if you call BTC a scam now and are correct, your economic cred will moon. Especially
in Finance or Economics or say a Professor of these.

If you are wrong and BTC thrives. Everyone will forget.

So FUD works. Win/Win.
2911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: March 07, 2018, 04:53:24 AM
hmm in the usa you can instantly depreciate your hardware using section 178 in 2017 and now with trumps new tax plan the cap is removed.....  Just saying

I’m doing so. But I’m told by cpa it is 25% in real $$$ back on equipment, on taxes
You would pay anyway. If you don’t make enough for that, it is a loss. This means I’m
basically a Farmer, equipment wise.

Problem is I need to overkill month to month at beginning of the year, in that my
Legacy miners may be doorstop mode by June. Also price dump at end of year could
Make hard for me to catch-up.

Also, if I do have a lot of extra $$$ by being to cautious, as a self employed business
I can fund a solo401k at $24k plus. Then once funded, flip back into crypto. With this
$24k acting like Equipment and all available to deduct from gross income.

But the solo 401k can only be funded from self-employment setup. Again how long
Can I mine. So playing it tight first 1/2 of year mining or equipment.

Pm me details if questions. I may not be using proper terms. (Thus CPA)


2912  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 04:34:35 AM
.. dumber things have happened in crypto than Craig Wright not being the last man standing of the 'supposed' satoshi group

I think it is very unlikely, but he is sure running up patent applications like he is Satoshi

Wright's whole scheming personality is no way parallel to the evidence of Satoshi's personality (whether Satoshi was an individual or a group).  In fact, Wright's patent troll behavior reflects the exact opposite of the spirit and intent of an innovator of an open source project, and earlier you had acknowledged that Wright seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

I agree. But since Trump became president, bizarre possibilities haunt my existence.

PTTS

Post Traumatic Trump Syndrome. Yep, a bit more skittish about ‘what if’s’

Yep. It’s all in my mind! (Damn well better be...damn it!)
2913  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 06, 2018, 11:21:18 PM
then if Craig Wright really is Satoshi (or part of a group and he is only one alive) and gets access to billions on jan 1st 2020 from a trust, as he claims...

well, sh*t I just scared myself Sad Ack!


Sure, this is a speculation thread, but I don't see why you keep repeating this improbable nonsense that a person who is confirmed to be a scammer Craig Wright is going to have access to nearly 1 million bitcoins or some other proximate amount in early 2020, just because his lying ass makes such a FUD spreading proclamation.

You scare yourself with improbable pie in the sky fantasies, and then you feel some kind of need to share such nonsense with us?


stuff to do..besides would you have thought a few years ago the Karpeles would get his bitcoin millions back or some of it? Thru Japanese Bankruptcy Law? .. dumber things have happened in crypto than Craig Wright not being the last man standing of the 'supposed' satoshi group

I think it is very unlikely, but he is sure running up patent applications like he is Satoshi

anyway, the stuff in this thread is gone 4 pages back in like 1 hour...big whoop

feel free to put me on /ignore I won't mind...hell I will not know Smiley

2914  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LCC] Litecoin Cash | SHA256 LTC fork @ block 1371111 | 10:1 claim ratio on: March 06, 2018, 10:47:16 PM
I have 'supposedly' 4400 LCC ...

I never really paid attention, in that from my view, it was all 'unicorn dreams' anyway...

thus no 'angst' at this point in time...the $$$ value never REALLY existed for LCC...

thus hard to beat myself up on money falling from the sky and then 'evaporating' when it hits the ground (ie reality)

2915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: March 06, 2018, 10:44:33 PM
Brad, you are right. I will write you my highly disregarded personal guarantee, that S9's and L3+'s will be selling in droves at or below $1000.00 USD per unit in the very near future. Due exactly to the metrics you've described. The Dam,s about to burst. Even Bitmain can't hide it anymore. There is much pain to be had on the horizon. I have gone into hibernation on the acquisition front as well. Keep your powder dry old salt. Live to fight another day.

You guys are hilarious.

Best for you to stay on the sidelines. More profits for the rest of us!

Hey, I hope you are correct on a 'price pump' for LTC or some such to pull us out of this...I'm just NOT willing to buy more equipment on such a risk....in that, I already

have 7,500mh of scrypt-pow...

It is just damn hard to know to guess on when/if/how to get equipment with Bitmain controlling 90% of ASIC miners of any flavor (sha-256/scrypt-pow/blake2b/x11)

but hey, again, hope you are correct....but equipment NOW vs HODL coin for 'price rise' (crosses fingers) and buy equipment later in the year is what I'm 'hoping' for

(then again, at one time I drank the BFL kool-aid...so what do I know) Sad



2916  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 06, 2018, 10:39:09 PM

..the smile will be the same...if under Japanese Bankruptcy law he gets a portion of his hoard back IN BITCOIN.....(ie property)

that would suck...

then if Craig Wright really is Satoshi (or part of a group and he is only one alive) and gets access to billions on jan 1st 2020 from a trust, as he claims...

well, sh*t I just scared myself Sad Ack!



Judging by the glacial speed Japanese courts move at it will be years after 2020 before the gox case concludes. If Craig Wright really is Satoshi he'll get a payout before Karpeles.

I don't believe Wright is Satoshi, considering the best proof he could provide was a gobbledygook-looking string of text that he "just pulled straight from a transaction on the blockchain".

Quote
The signature in Wrights post, is just pulled straight from a transaction on the blockchain. Take the base64 signature from his post:

    MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=

Convert to hex:

    3045022100c12a7d54972f26d14cb311339b5122f8c187417dde1e8efb6841f55c34220ae002206 6632c5cd4161efa3a2837764eee9eb84975dd54c2de2865e9752585c53e7cce

and you get the signature found in this transaction input: https://blockchain.info/tx/828ef3b079f9c23829c56fe86e85b4a69d9e06e5b54ea597eef5fb3ffef509fe





I agree...I just use Craig Wright as Satoshi to 'scare myself' in that IF he was, and IF he did get billions in BTC..he hates everyone now...and would burn BTC to the ground

by dumping IMHO on how he was treated by BTC folk and the Press.....(shudder) ...as an aside with a group of 'dubious' folk he is getting 'patents' on everything related

about 'blockchain'  ...(again, scared self) I put the odds at 1 in 20 he was part of a 'satoshi group' and is the last man standing.....(god knows BTC is weird enough, I'm

looking for a 'space alien' creation origin story)

2917  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 06, 2018, 09:45:53 PM
BBC Radio 4 investigation being broadcast now, into Mt Gox / BTCE and the 'biggest Bitcoin theft ever'.

Fun if you can get it where you are (not sure if it's easy outside the UK).  But some interesting interviews including Karpeles.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09tdyjz

Karpeles under Japanese Bankruptcy law could make millions, even after settlement...

http://fortune.com/2017/11/11/karpeles-mt-gox-profitable-bankruptcy/

what a cluster that would be "I'm back!"




Is that an old picture of him? I thought the fat bastard had lost weight while he was in jail. Don't tell me he's already put it all back on again.


no clue..the smile will be the same...if under Japanese Bankruptcy law he gets a portion of his hoard back IN BITCOIN.....(ie property)

that would suck...

then if Craig Wright really is Satoshi (or part of a group and he is only one alive) and gets access to billions on jan 1st 2020 from a trust, as he claims...

well, sh*t I just scared myself Sad Ack!

2918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: March 06, 2018, 09:41:46 PM
Brad, you are right. I will write you my highly disregarded personal guarantee, that S9's and L3+'s will be selling in droves at or below $1000.00 USD per unit in the very near future. Due exactly to the metrics you've described. The Dam,s about to burst. Even Bitmain can't hide it anymore. There is much pain to be had on the horizon. I have gone into hibernation on the acquisition front as well. Keep your powder dry old salt. Live to fight another day.


further insult to injury .they 'taunt' me with approximately $1,550 Bitmain Coupons (though 8 x 100 bucks of them are to a buddy..who likely won't use them either)

Like I'm gonna buy, 14 units to use the above coupons....

the horror! Ack!

2919  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 06, 2018, 09:15:18 PM
BBC Radio 4 investigation being broadcast now, into Mt Gox / BTCE and the 'biggest Bitcoin theft ever'.

Fun if you can get it where you are (not sure if it's easy outside the UK).  But some interesting interviews including Karpeles.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09tdyjz

Karpeles under Japanese Bankruptcy law could make millions, even after settlement...

http://fortune.com/2017/11/11/karpeles-mt-gox-profitable-bankruptcy/

what a cluster that would be "I'm back!"


2920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: March 06, 2018, 09:04:18 PM
WARNING: Begining of rant...the logic below is mine alone and due to my tax bracket mining etc.....keep this in mind...

TITLE: WHY I DID NOT GET AN L3+ SINCE LAST SEPTEMBER 2017...AND JUST HAVE BEEN IN HODL MODE!

My way of looking at getting an L3+ at this late date...(doubtful with march/april dump of equipment of many ASIC flavors by Bitmain)

I am in the boat where I'm at with soc sec/local and state taxes/and fed taxes around 41%..as I can't afford a CPA or bookkeeper (who'd know squat anyway about crypto)

I just dump 50% to the tax man on what I mine or cash out (or crypto if less than 1 yr and a day..40% and 10% for my state taxes)...

It is dumb and simple..the leftover $$$ from my simplified ..."keeping track to pay the tax man" month to month  (I am retired and currently trying to live off of mining, and not

touch other assets for giggles). Anyway..the extra 9% slack above the 41% taxman wise,  I'd likely be on the hook for,  will pay for my health insurance, up front thus 50% hack.

Simple and easy, and won't drive me "Insane" like last year after the fact ...trying to do this at the end of the year.....month to month from now on, the only way to fly!

Also, if my 'legacy' miners puke in the middle of the year, due to difficulty rise and price going sideways.....I NEED to be ahead of the game (month to month) with the tax folk!


Moving on...


Anyway, I crack say, and decide to get an L3+ using calcs and convoluted logic below:


From my calcs with shipping and PSU and L3+ to get to me is $1,600 bucks more or less for an L3+ unit without coupon.

$1,600.00 (PSU/shipping/customs/L3+)

 -$200 coupon I have

$1,400 USD

-$700 USD set aside monthly would go to my 50% anyway...would have been applied to tax set aside anyway. (see my above "odd" logic of why 50% set aside, see above)

-------------

 $700

remaining $700 bucks is cash that is left over (remember the $700 above is lost to me anyway either in equipment or to tax man) but this is cash I can SPEND after taxes...

Not to be if I decide to get equipment....with my above mining profits...with my dubious bookkeeping...

I use this extra $700 bucks from mining for 'dubious L3' below:


So I'm $700 bucks in......taking away the 25% equipment deduction OFF taxes (If I pay in enough at the end of the year, to take of taxes in real $$$ owed)

is 25% of the above $1400 bucks or $350

 $700
 -350
-------
$350 is what I'm in on the device over and above..what I'd pay the tax man ( with my dubious accounting above) or $350 bucks more..

means I'm IN for the device ...if all the above works out $350 bucks.....is my extra risk.


The other variable is my electric for 1 year..which is pretty much locked in at 12c kwh.

so 800watts x 24 x 30 days / 1,000 (for kwh) = 576 x 12c kwh = $69.12 per month x 12 months = $829.44

So my above equip risk above paying the tax man and health insurance (2019) set aside EXTRA is $350 plus electric for 1 year is $820.44 + $350 = $1,179.44

So $1,179.44 with equip risk above my taxes/health gimmick and electric for the year

THE ABOVE IS WHAT I HAVE IN THE GAME...FOR A PURCHASED L3+ NOW!

to really nail down the risk you then you go backward with your (in my case pretty close ballpark figure)

$1,179.44 / 12 months = $98.29 per month costs  divide $98.29 / 30 days = $3.28 / day.


So the AVERAGE to break EVEN paying for equipment costs (in my case) and electricity (in my case) DAILY is: $3.28 /day...IF DIFFICULTY REMAINED THE SAME (snicker)



As of this moment, ONE L3+ at 500mh and 800 watts on www.litecoinpoorl.org using their LTC calculator www.litecoinpool.org/calc

you get at this moment of $194.51 or $9.73 per day.....

BUT with the amount of march/april equipment by bitmain and others in scrypt-pow dumping....figure 1/3 of that is gone to make it about $6.52 after the march/april

dump of equipment from the last 4 months of scrypt-pow L3+'s by Bitmain... this is a guess...but a likelihood IMHO.

well.....as you can see...

1) we now know why they are dumping coupons

2) just can't see this as working out IF in the Summer as I expect..Bitmain pumps out new equipment with better hash and less electric for themselves

3) with above better equipment then does the "Bitmain Shuffle" ....takes pre-order from May till Sept...and ships in Sept..using your pre-order $$$

4) to basically mine like hell with the new generation of equipment for 4 months with us left in the rear ...likely with high priced, high-risk equipment again

rinse/wash/repeat


Thus, sitting on fence ...not getting nothing....at least till after the march/april dump of equipment of many ASIC flavors by Bitmain...really want another company

to compete with Bitmain..that now is likely a 'unicorn dream' Sad


Anyway, probably everyone does a similar calculation to my above messy logic...but how I see it ...If we are all 'hoping' for a price pump of BTC and hopefully

LTC and all the other alts to get us out of an equipment hole..come march/april...well ....I'm just dandy mining what I have and waiting in that works for me just fine.

HOW anyone can get, on a price pump, equipment WITHOUT my issues above with hard $$$ and ONLY be looking at the 25% equipment deduction and the other

75% full risk, plus electric...without my dubious 'tricks' above...insane as they may be..well hobby miner folk...run far away...away..away and HODL is my advice.

..if it don't work with my above-convoluted logic it is NOT gonna fly for you, with ONE miner and regular deductions and regular folk tax bracket...(at least at 12c kwh for me!)

anyway...the fence sitting is giving me 'splinters' ... I likely will 'crack' and get 'some' ASIC equipment again..just not likely to do so after June 2018... (yeah, I know, there

won't' likely be any, dubious investment or not!)

(don't like my posts..stick me on /ignore...I don't care, I will not know, it's a win/win) Smiley

end of rant

Brad



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