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301  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 07:37:23 PM
@ smoothie, quite being a douche and get a job. stop taking my tax money. it really sucks that i have to pay you to attack me. land of the free, lol.

Quite?

Quite being a scammer. LOL  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

you noticed I typoed from a phone! You get a gold star!
302  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
When Goat write "dead weight low lifes" to smoothie I don't think that should be accepted. It is a very serious insult to a person.

I don't think you know smoothie very well. Despite everything that has gone on and the way you reacted I still think you are human.

smoothie is the most hated and despised person that is allowed to post on this forum. He is by far the most ignored.

Most people would not piss on him if he was on fire, you on the other hand just reacted badly to a fair question. and sadly it is just my policy not to deal with people who use terrorist threats. if you want to use the FBI as your enforcer, you do that. smoothie here has more posts in this thread than you, and he has no clue what is going on.
303  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 07:32:08 PM
@ smoothie, quite being a douche and get a job. stop taking my tax money. it really sucks that i have to pay you to attack me. land of the free, lol.

Oh you are the one paying him? Could you please stop Tongue

If I do so I will have to go to jail. It is almost worth it, I know.
304  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is why Bitcoin is rising so fast... on: May 25, 2014, 07:31:24 PM
Enough already with this Bitstamp FUD.
The situation at MtGox was completely different, with MtgGox there were withdrawals problems, meaning that withdrawals were being ridicoulously delayed or not processed at all.

What is happening at Bitstamp is just that the are requesting a lot of info to avoid money laundering issues (which is very understandable, even if i agree that the measures are excessive...). The withdrawals after having sent the info actually WORK.

When we will have withdrawal issues we wil talk about it. now it's FUD.

i have been away, what is going on at bitstamp?
305  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 07:30:32 PM
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Debt owner is Gurrty and borrower is Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย

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With this contract it will be equal to 5762 bitcoin in debt.

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The debt will be used for the bot and other potential revenue generating projects.   The specific investments which the debt are used for will not be disclosed specifically.

This language from the contract, or at least the draft posted here, seems to imply that while the loan will be paid back through, and used for, various investments, it is not an investment itself, just a loan.

You are either a sock or new here but clearly it was not a loan. He did not give me BTC.

This was mostly in response to your assertion that since Gurrty chose to not take a payout immediately, and instead make a "risky investment" in order to profit, you are not obligated to pay him back since the investment did not work out. My point is the contract that we have access to seems to state that this is a loan, not an investment, with the investment aspect being your explanation for how you will pay back the loan.

Yes, he did not give you BTC, he gave you bonds, but they were assessed in terms of their value in BTC, and the contract states that you will pay him back in BTC, regardless of BTC's relative value to these bonds.

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The loan will be repaid back 1% plus 1% interest each week.

I don't know how you can argue that this wasn't a loan, when these are you own words from the contract.

Anyway, you stated earlier that what has been posted is only a draft of the contract, not the final thing. If the final contract differs significantly from what has been posted, I apologize, since I am making my argument based on the draft that I have access to.


 loan might be the word in the draft but that is not what it was.


Priceless ^  Grin Grin Grin

A loan is not a loan when the word "loan" is being used in the contract. lol


i know that the word draft is a big word, and intent is a big word. but you can learn what these words mean. look them up buddy. you have used my tax money to pay for internet, use it all you can. you need all the help you can get.
306  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 07:28:49 PM
@ smoothie, quite being a douche and get a job. stop taking my tax money. it really sucks that i have to pay you to attack me. land of the free, lol.
307  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 07:24:31 PM
@ smoothie, lol  Roll Eyes
308  Other / Off-topic / Re: Relationship and offspring statuses? on: May 25, 2014, 07:23:44 PM
4 kids, but 6 different mothers. :/
309  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 07:21:58 PM
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Debt owner is Gurrty and borrower is Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย

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With this contract it will be equal to 5762 bitcoin in debt.

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The debt will be used for the bot and other potential revenue generating projects.   The specific investments which the debt are used for will not be disclosed specifically.

This language from the contract, or at least the draft posted here, seems to imply that while the loan will be paid back through, and used for, various investments, it is not an investment itself, just a loan.

You are either a sock or new here but clearly it was not a loan. He did not give me BTC.

This was mostly in response to your assertion that since Gurrty chose to not take a payout immediately, and instead make a "risky investment" in order to profit, you are not obligated to pay him back since the investment did not work out. My point is the contract that we have access to seems to state that this is a loan, not an investment, with the investment aspect being your explanation for how you will pay back the loan.

Yes, he did not give you BTC, he gave you bonds, but they were assessed in terms of their value in BTC, and the contract states that you will pay him back in BTC, regardless of BTC's relative value to these bonds.

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The loan will be repaid back 1% plus 1% interest each week.

I don't know how you can argue that this wasn't a loan, when these are you own words from the contract.

Anyway, you stated earlier that what has been posted is only a draft of the contract, not the final thing. If the final contract differs significantly from what has been posted, I apologize, since I am making my argument based on the draft that I have access to.


if it is a loan, should i just give him back what he "loaned" me? loan might be the word in the draft but that is not what it was. also the value placed on the bonds were not the current fair value and were only valued at that price because of other details in the contract.
310  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 07:19:17 PM
Op had the option to take btc for his bonds like everyone else. He was upset and wanted more. So he wanted to invest in other things. High risk things that could pay 1 percent a week. He was happy until that failed. Now he wants more btc than he even started out with. The bonds were trading at less than 1 btc at the time.

he is like a guy who bet on red, then black hits and he wants a full refund.

If he wants his bonds back then he needs to ask for them. Demanding btc is just silly.



1. Claim you are wasting your time posting in this thread.

2. Continue posting in this thread.

3. Claim to certain users that you owe them nothing/info/etc.

4. Give out more information by explaining more of your view of the situation.

5. TROLLS'S....lol

TROLLS'S'S'S'S'S  Grin Grin Grin

fine. Im done then. If anyone has an issue about this send me a pm.




Then... Cheesy

I think while Goat should Probably pay back the Remaining BTC owed at it's Value back in 2012 the OP should carry some responsibility and Take a loss for not understanding "Investment and Risk"


Well I do not think that I "should" have to pay him back but honestly I was open to the idea. He went on about his drug problems, how he lost his job, gambled everything away (fiat too) and was now homeless. I felt sorry for the guy but I do not think there is an obligation for me to give him anything I have.

I lost more money trying to do what he demanded by trying to fill his contract. I lost almost everything at one point when I had to pay back everything I owed. I'm one of the very few who did.

Now the only reason why I have BTC today is because I borrowed from family and friends and went all in again. I did well with AM stock and LTC.

Now should OP get a part of that? Well, I asked him why he thought he should and his response was a year later "Hello Scammer, should I report you to the FBI/SEC"

Honestly if he is going to be like that fuck him.

Also keep in mind he did not invest BTC into this. He invested GLBSE bonds that had a questionable value. I was trying to be nice and help him out at the time. Something I wish I never did.

Anyway had he been reasonable and polite I would have come to an agreement with him and done something in fiat in the range that would have made him close to even, but only cuz I took more personal risk after the fact and won. Not because he is owed it.



have a nice nap? good to see you again. you attack me for not defending myself, you attack me for defending myself. you attack me for not posting, you attack me for posting.

do you really not have anything better to do in life? how are the welfare checks working out? I was shocked to see you getting them for so many years in a row. you know, some people here think people like you are scamming the system. we do not like supporting dead weight low lifes like yourself. but what can we do. some people just know how to milk the system.

311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ on: May 25, 2014, 07:14:34 PM
I fail so hard at this game  Tongue

I found I'm a much better investor than a gambler. 90% + bets have raped me a bit!

i lost 50 btc in 11 seconds :/
312  Other / Off-topic / Re: In what sports do men and women compete at the closest to the same level? on: May 25, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
I think pretty much Curling only (if any).

All the others aren't accurate I think.

So with Stock Car Racing how would men have a better advantage then?

Superior physical strength, superior reflexes and superior split second risk evaluation and decisiveness. 

Do we have any evidence to support that males have better reflexes? I don't know many people to support such a thing.

if we assume women where gathers while men where hunters, and that men fought other men for the right to mate, i could see how men have or need faster reflexes. however i would be interested in a scientific test. i have been bewildered before.
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2014, 06:59:18 PM
dammit i want to buy some litecoins  fast. Anyone wanna sell me some via paypal?.

why would you want to buy ltc?


ohhhh paypal scammer....

Because it's relation to BTC is low right now. Of course no-one knows whether it will rise again as it previously did.

well that is partly my fault. i have been selling as i expect btc to rise.
314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2014, 06:56:20 PM
dammit i want to buy some litecoins  fast. Anyone wanna sell me some via paypal?.

why would you want to buy ltc?


ohhhh paypal scammer....
315  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 06:46:54 PM
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Debt owner is Gurrty and borrower is Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย

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With this contract it will be equal to 5762 bitcoin in debt.

Quote
The debt will be used for the bot and other potential revenue generating projects.   The specific investments which the debt are used for will not be disclosed specifically.

This language from the contract, or at least the draft posted here, seems to imply that while the loan will be paid back through, and used for, various investments, it is not an investment itself, just a loan.

You are either a sock or new here but clearly it was not a loan. He did not give me BTC.
316  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 05:40:05 PM
goat you are a fucking cunt.. asian cunt or japanese or whatever the fuck you are

Yes, in your 2 weeks here you have figured it out and put it just so eloquently.
317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ on: May 25, 2014, 05:28:12 PM
I fail so hard at this game  Tongue
318  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 05:19:07 PM

Yeah, I agree

To what part? And if it is "I should pay something", why do you think I should?
319  Other / Off-topic / Re: In what sports do men and women compete at the closest to the same level? on: May 25, 2014, 04:55:57 PM
(it's about people cleaning the floor with a broom)

ha!

I didn't mean to insult one of your favorite sports Wink

no, not at all. it is what it is. honestly it is hard as fuck to play. if you get a chance you should really try it.
320  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is why Bitcoin is rising so fast... on: May 25, 2014, 04:20:24 PM
Don't try to explain it or fight it.

Just go with it. 

Sounds like something a rapist would say  Tongue
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