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3101  Economy / Securities / Re: Anything sustainable worth of investing? on: September 27, 2015, 05:25:01 AM
the investor is literally getting their deposit back from their own money over a period of 20 days.  So where do you get scam from this?

What happens on day 21? Once you've given the investor all their money back, where does the next day's money come from?

That's where we get "scam" from. In order for this not to be a scam you need to be generating 4 to 6% in real profits each day, and you can't.

I left you some trust feedback. I will remove it if you can show any evidence that you aren't running a Ponzi scheme.

This. At 4%/day, you'd turn $100 into $1m in 236 days. In less than 60 days past that, you'd be at $10m. End of year 1? $158,538,777.

Let's try with $1k and 6%. Now after:

236d: 884,867,689
296d: 29,189,741,779
365d: 1,626,802,969,124

You would be a TRILLIONAIRE on day 357, less than a year after starting. And that's just with $1k.

Something's not adding up.

Do you mind if I use your post to answer his enquiry of me?



Feel free! I was kind of surprised at how fast it compounded, but regardless, if he can become a trillionaire in under a year with $1k, he doesn't need other money.
3102  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: September 27, 2015, 05:12:49 AM
One of the best way to make BTC is to work for fiat then exchange the fiat for BTC Or work directly for btc see services section

This is the only way to get some BTCs. Sell a good or offer a service in an exchange for bitcoins. Or buy them with your Fiat. Every other investment like cloudmining, getting some interest for your bitcoins, even trading will just get you to lose money.
Actually you wanna do the opposite.

You should buy the service in bitcoin because its cheaper, and sell it in fiat, because the price gap is towards the fiat because of the fiat comissions and fees.

Ex: buy some pc hardware in bitcoin, and sell it to your friends for higher price in fiat.

Most things cost the same in BTC as they do with cash, if you look at it like a marketplace. I haven't really found any good deals yet.
3103  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Win XBOX or PS4| Weekly Rake+VIP| DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: September 27, 2015, 05:09:54 AM
No investors complaining lately must be makin bank now. Time for us players to turn variance  Grin

TBH, it's been on an uphill trend. My -14% at one point is positive as of a couple days ago, Smiley.
nice job getting back into the positives but the players will make a turn around at some point. wish there was a happy medium so players and investors could be happy

The issue has never been between investors/players, really. It can't possibly be a zero-sum game. The issue was just between investors and site operators (in that profit could be going up, while investors were still bleeding money due to how the revenue share is split).

from my understanding investors are up around 70btc total at this moment. you may or may not have gotten in late but investors should be plenty happy.

as far as you guys bleeding money it does state Reminder Never invest more than you are willing to lose, and do not invest unless you clearly understand the risks and rewards.

if you guys are unhappy with the current agreement then what are you gonna do when the current invest option goes away?

I've been in it since it was a bankroll of only 100 BTC, :p. Months now.

And that +70 BTC is the TOTAL profit for all (site owner split, commissions included). Actual investor profit is far less.

That said, a couple weeks ago some changes were made split-wise and so far they seem to be going well.
3104  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [ANN] MinerFarm - Virtual Mining Game for Real Bitcoin on: September 27, 2015, 05:03:46 AM
so, for repair or get back my ghs which decreased, i need to hire technicians, but the technician is permanent right? so if my hardware have a damage and need to repair, the technician repair it automatically?

Technicians do not repair automatically, you have to chose when to repair your device. If you buy a tech it is permanent. But you can also rent from employee market for 1 hour, it's cheaper than buying.

Hmmm, but that means it could be profitable to purchase them as a type of investment. I wonder how often they're rented?
3105  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Win XBOX or PS4| Weekly Rake+VIP| DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: September 27, 2015, 05:01:04 AM
No investors complaining lately must be makin bank now. Time for us players to turn variance  Grin

TBH, it's been on an uphill trend. My -14% at one point is positive as of a couple days ago, Smiley.
nice job getting back into the positives but the players will make a turn around at some point. wish there was a happy medium so players and investors could be happy

The issue has never been between investors/players, really. It can't possibly be a zero-sum game. The issue was just between investors and site operators (in that profit could be going up, while investors were still bleeding money due to how the revenue share is split).
3106  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Multiple Signature Campaigns on: September 27, 2015, 04:55:50 AM
No if every body are allowed to wear more than one signature than it will make site design rediculous as there will be lots of Space between two consecutive posts. It is Also quite non convertible for advertisers. I am happy with what we have and it is easy to earn more with having two account and posting from both.

It wouldn't affect space between posts... you can't fill up more signature space than there is.
3107  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Win XBOX or PS4| Weekly Rake+VIP| DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: September 27, 2015, 04:54:41 AM
No investors complaining lately must be makin bank now. Time for us players to turn variance  Grin

TBH, it's been on an uphill trend. My -14% at one point is positive as of a couple days ago, Smiley.
3108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: September 27, 2015, 04:52:44 AM
There is no permanent winning strategy in the dice game though lately some people are claiming to get it done using some bots but there is no proof on that yet.

Bots don't work either. Bots may work on games with no house edge, but not on games with a house edge. The people who claim that the bots are working are probably just lucky so far. Bots do work short term, but will lose eventually in the long term.

Even with no house edge, you can't beat the house because you'll hit their cap. It's another form of gambler's fallacy.
3109  Economy / Gambling / Re: LuckyFlop.eu | DAILY 100 MBC FREE ROLL | BLACK JACK | VIDEO POKER | 2BTC | on: September 27, 2015, 04:50:13 AM
this does not need a rollover because chips in poker sites cant be implemented with rollover and yes it can but the minimum withdrawal is 20 mBTC and it is not like a promotions that can be abuse easily though.

In other words you will not be able to withdraw it directly unless you multiply your chips by playing at the tournaments or the ring games,,


Only ring games.   It is only ring games for right now.  We're working on something special for the tourneys. 

Another type of cash back system? Smiley. I'm intrigued.
3110  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTB] CS:GO CD Key on: September 26, 2015, 03:41:54 PM
Currently offering 0.033 BTC! Really trying to keep away from third-party sites if possible.

I can do that. Add me here: https://steamcommunity.com/id/32424243243242

Thanks! ^_^

Just sent a friend invite and a pm! Smiley
3111  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Multiple Signature Campaigns on: September 26, 2015, 07:50:49 AM
Some campaigns used to allow this, but the caveat was that they paid less (i.e., joining two of them would pay less than one normal one). As of lately, though, I don't know of any that allow it anymore.

"used to allow this" is the key phrase. They don't allow it anymore...therefore the history is kind of irrelevant to the OPs question. I wonder if the OP ever found their way to two campaigns?

How is the history (being that today things are different) irrelevant? No campaigns right now allow you to join multiple at once. None. Zero. None. Hence why the history is important -- it happened in the past, but things are different. In other words, don't hope for it to return to how it was.
i dont think you are right on this one,coinoindex and coinomat allow multiple accounts and that is why they kept the limit to .35 per month
all the signature does is advertise ....thats it.

Multiple accounts != multiple signatures. In fact, if you look at those, their signatures are too big to fit multiple in there.
3112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: September 26, 2015, 07:32:00 AM
Casinos love martingale players. It's also a myth that minimums and maximum bets are there to prevent Martingale.

Minimums are there because casinos consider bets that are too small to be a waste of time considering overhead, and maximum bets are there because the variance is too high for the casino to handle.

I've never heard anyone claim that casinos set their maximums to prevent martingale. Only that martingale is prevented by maximum bets (i.e., all keyboards have keys, but not all keys are part of keyboards).
3113  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [ANN] MinerFarm - Virtual Mining Game for Real Bitcoin on: September 26, 2015, 07:29:58 AM
This is an interesting game! Just got started with it and am evaluating it, Smiley. I'm curious, though, as I didn't see anything related to this: how accurate is this in terms of RL earnings vs. in-game earnings? And are the "blocks" in-game based on RL blocks that are mined by you, or in BTC in general, or?

And how often are earnings added to the user balances?
3114  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling Xbox Live & PSN Gift Cards at discount on: September 26, 2015, 06:21:49 AM
You have not said anything about payment method.secondly with changing TOS nobody is gonna risk their money on you
So you do realize this is a bitcoin forums right? its common sense BTC

And so you are subjected to your opinions. I encourage the usage of a MM..Go cry elsewhere
Just saving people from scammers like u .who find loopholes in rules and bend the rules and scam people out of their money.

Take a screenshot of the ToS at the time of purchase. If he scams you, you have proof of what you agreed to. It's simple.
3115  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Multiple Signature Campaigns on: September 26, 2015, 06:19:50 AM
Some campaigns used to allow this, but the caveat was that they paid less (i.e., joining two of them would pay less than one normal one). As of lately, though, I don't know of any that allow it anymore.

"used to allow this" is the key phrase. They don't allow it anymore...therefore the history is kind of irrelevant to the OPs question. I wonder if the OP ever found their way to two campaigns?

How is the history (being that today things are different) irrelevant? No campaigns right now allow you to join multiple at once. None. Zero. None. Hence why the history is important -- it happened in the past, but things are different. In other words, don't hope for it to return to how it was.
3116  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling Xbox Live & PSN Gift Cards at discount on: September 26, 2015, 06:00:12 AM
Any chance you'll be adding Steam to that list later?
3117  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [Auto Buy] Getting a lifetime vps with 5gb RAM |METHOD| $1.50 on: September 26, 2015, 05:59:10 AM
Can you please shed a little more light on exactly how this works? For example, "lifetime" -- is this cycling accounts, or the same VPS (with the same IP, etc. so you don't have to keep moving and re-setting up over and over on a new one)?

And what is "overusing" RAM?
3118  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling 12BTC coinbase account for 2BTC on: September 26, 2015, 05:54:43 AM
I'm obviously missing something here, unless it's a hacked account or something. He's saying escrow is accepted... so wouldn't that make the deal safe?
3119  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: September 26, 2015, 05:52:08 AM
try to invest some revenue sharing site in these days lot of revenue sharing site is come but invest only on trusted site from these site u can earn huge profit just by investing a liitle amount of btc
A revenue sharing site, as in a ponzi? You can rarely ever trust people running ponzi schemes. Most of the time, they'll take your money and run off with it. They can't just give you free money from you doing nothing. How do you know if a site is 'trusted'?

Revenue sharing as in a real site, I assume. I thought about taking investors for a business I'd love to get off the ground, but with all the scams around here, I feel like even offering the opportunity would be detrimental.
3120  Economy / Gambling / Re: LuckyFlop.eu | DAILY 100 MBC FREE ROLL | BLACK JACK | VIDEO POKER | 2BTC | on: September 26, 2015, 05:50:43 AM
SO the 3mbc hourly is LIVE and active… here is an example on how the software works!


It's hard for you to calculate it exactly unless you have a stop watch and count the seconds from the moment the cards are drawn to the moment the game ends.  Take these seconds, lets say 180 seconds being 3 minutes.  So you have 180 seconds.  3 MBC per hour is .0008 MBC per second.  X 180 seconds = .15 MBC you would have gotten in a 3 minute period.  If the game is 2 minutes long you would have gotten around .08 MBC.  THIS DOES WORK! ONLY ON GAMES .2/.5 mbc NL-FL and UP !!



NOT TOURNEY'S


Thanks for explanation. I'll try to test it later today (if there's anyone to play with).

But what happens if you pay the small blind but fold? Or when there are 3 players, one folds after the flop, 2 others play till river. Are all getting paid equally? Is the player who folds early paid less, or not paid at all?
It is every delt hand. Just take that example and put in your time.

That explains it nice and clear the only small problem I would have is not many will join playing that stake long enough for it to be of benefit. But it is an awesome promotion and as usual looking after your player base with these ideas! I will sit down for the next hour or so see if anyone will join and make the most of it  Cool Anyone got some spare funds and want to play I'm there.

EDIT. Played for awhile with jorjito and was good game, thanks for the game mate and thanks luckyflop for the bonus mbc.


THANK YOU … Did you notice your balance go up? Did you refresh it to see? Im glad you liked our games and once we can grow a little I can make the larger games pay more mbc per hour!

Hey luckyflop,

Yes it was going up every hand or every other hand, pretty cool stuff never seen that happen before  Cheesy

It is a really good idea and hopefully that will help increase players on the ring games, I for one will sit down whenever possible!

I look forward to seeing you grow I can only imagine the ideas for the site and players you will come up with.

Thanks Lucky

Wait, it updates in real-time? If so, that's even more awesome. There should be an addition in the member area that says something like "Bonus BTC Earned: xxxx"
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