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3181  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: September 21, 2015, 01:49:37 AM
Well if any new people are interested in registering for coinbase. (not trying to be one of those spammers, but hey might help)

They have a referral thing where if you register a new account and buy $100 or more of bitcoin, the referrer gets $75 of bitcoin.

I'd gladly share 2/3 or $50 with people if they message me before registering.
I agree. I personally use Coinbase, and it's great as an online wallet service. The other awesome thing, as you mentioned is their referral service. On my screen, it states: "Earn $104 of bitcoin for every friend you refer who buys $139 of bitcoin or more." That's almost 1:1! Just me piping in. Smiley

Wow. They've gone up a LOT. I got 15-20 referrals way back in the day. Each one paid a whopping $5, Sad.
3182  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Which Bitcoin Exchange do you use and why ? on: September 21, 2015, 01:48:44 AM
Wow, I like yobit because of all the extremely volatile alts and low volumes....it's fun to play because it is easier to control the market....But, for my less "fun" trading experiences, I use Polo because of the higher volumes and more stable markets.

I just learned about YoBit recently. I like that they give away free coins and don't even have a captcha for them. While it's not much, it helps spread awareness.
3183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 21, 2015, 01:47:58 AM
Ok guyz!

What should be my target for the oct-jan bull run?

$1800 or $2500?

Just remove a zero from each number and you won't be disappointed.

I think everyone needs to think very carefully before making assumptions about continued lacklustre price movement. When bitcoin went from ~$25 to more than ~250 within a couple of months leading up to April 2013 many would have thought they would never see anything like that again. Those who sold out and didn't buy back in again when it went back below $100 would have been kicking themselves when the big boom happened that following November. Well we're in the same situation right now. If things start seriously unravelling with fiat (and indications are that this is going to happen; it's only a matter of when) there will be a race into PMs and crypto. It's entirely likely we could see another run up that will make the ~$1200 from Nov 2013 look like the $250 from April 2013 (i.e if it follows a typical logarithmic trajectory, a $10,000 ATH is not out of the question).

Bottom line: I would be very careful jumping in and out of BTC at the moment as it could suddenly take off and will catch many out.


I have very close to my ATH of holdings of crypto currencies and trying to buy back what I was recently forced to sell. 

I believe at some point the usage and price will go up.

I just have no expectation when that will happen.  I don't even listen to the weather forecast.

The issue here is that usage doesn't relate to price at all. Most services that come out are all about going from cash -> BTC -> cash quickly, which negates the usage factor altogether. We need more to adopt BTC as a method of transacting, without continuing the dilution via liquidation.
3184  Economy / Goods / Re: ❎►฿ FOR SALE: Smoothie's Hawaiian Property 1 Acre + 4 BR/3BATH on: September 21, 2015, 12:06:23 AM
Have you looked at selling this on bitpremier? Maybe you should make a raffle for this like the one on Sean's outpost although I'm not sure what the laws regarding this are in Hawaii

I considered it.

Just never got around to posting it there. Do they charge a fee to post up on their site?

Raffle? Not sure how that would go down nor the legalities behind it.

Bitpremier is free to list on, but I believe it was a 15% fee of the sale price once (if) sold. Somewhat hefty.
3185  Economy / Digital goods / Re: NEVER PAY FOR UBER AGAIN! (car service) on: September 20, 2015, 11:52:27 PM
OP, I have no interest in using Uber, but if you want someone to look over your ebook and give a review of their thoughts, I can do it (without spoiling the method).
3186  Economy / Digital goods / Re: luka's MONEY METHOD $$$ EARN 1000+$ IN A MONTH $$$ LIMITED EDITION on: September 20, 2015, 09:56:17 PM
It is a 'crafty' method to make some money. Basically as Erkallys said it's a buy low and sell high method nothing of new.

So essentially it's just an overview of how every other business (read: millions of them) earns their money, :p.
3187  Economy / Digital goods / Re: auto-exchanger v6 on: September 20, 2015, 09:52:38 PM
I love the site. Especially how where you input things like your IBAN number and such, it's not even utilizing HTTPS. Security is overrated, especially when dealing with finances!
3188  Economy / Digital goods / Re: NEVER PAY FOR UBER AGAIN! (car service) on: September 20, 2015, 09:50:30 PM
if you never pay for uber again, who ultimately absorbs the loss/your gain ?  i hope it is not the poor driver who is trying to make a few bucks. 

I'd think it would be the company. If they were holding drivers liable for all losses, they wouldn't make it far. And Uber makes a lot off everything regardless, so they can sustain the hit. That said, this seems extremely shady and brings about ethical issues.
3189  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] Walmart Gift Cards - $10, $20 or higher - 40% rate on: September 20, 2015, 09:09:31 PM
It has been passed more than 3 days since i talked with OP,
Still no new about my order (vouch), i think it is taking more that i thought,
He has no been online for 2 days now, but in another forum he was active yesterday.
I wrote at his skype but still no answer maybe it's better to wait.

Yeah, I have the feeling they aren't coming back. Just hope nobody threw money to them. If they're disappearing for days at a time, that's not a good show of confidence for the future.

I haven't thrown any money to him yet.
Even though i am highly interested in his service.
I just required a vouch but seems that will not be good if he delay it, at least saying that is not ready now lol.

I'm 99% sure these are carded/hacked accounts he's using to get the codes, so if you do get one from him and use it, it ends up being tracked back to you if you use it online. They can also do the same in store (same as how they catch people using fake money).

He told me that he cracked these accounts,
But yeah you are right and maybe it would be a good step for me to stay away from these illegal things.
I just wanted to get something virtual but it can be tracked and i don't want to get in trouble

Yep, to put it into perspective, someone used Purse.io to trade his BTC for an item on his wishlist. He ended up with a visit from police and an accusation of theft because whoever bought it for him was carding. IIRC it was like $10k in legal fees for him to finally put it behind him, but helps understand the risks.
3190  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Safe.Cash BETA - Get a FREE wallet & $1 token [Get ready for WAVE 3] on: September 20, 2015, 08:30:54 PM
I have tried to take the survey as stated on first page but the link is not working. If the promo is already gone then why not you update the first page of this thread.

It says "Get ready for WAVE 3" and not "WAVE 3 NOW RUNNING" for a reason.
3191  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: do you believe with bitcoin on: September 20, 2015, 08:29:47 PM
No, and we shouldn't want it to be number 1. If it remains an alternative to the fiat currencies it can remain strong, pure, and independent from government. If it becomes number 1 then governments or business will seek to control it for their gain  and that will lead to the same manipulation we see with fiat currency today.
If the government wants controll they will buy hence pump btc and make users richer so no loss.

That makes no sense. If a government wants control, they simply make it illegal in all forms, and release their own version that is legal to use.
3192  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: September 20, 2015, 08:28:50 PM
lol

 Grin

Hand #4525386: Pot Limit Big O - 0.25/0.50
2015-09-18 01:08:49
Table 'Heavy Duty' Seat 4 is the button
Seat 2: swcnoob (41.69)
Seat 3: Cree (46.25)
Seat 4: BananaMonkey (160.05)
Seat 5: donk4u (83.84)
Seat 6: Spain (68.24)
donk4u: posts the small blind 5815284
Spain: posts the big blind 5815256
Dealt to donk4u: [Qd As Qs Ah 7c]
swcnoob calls 0.50
Cree folds
BananaMonkey raises to 2.25
donk4u calls 2.25
Spain calls 2.25
swcnoob calls 2.25
*** FLOP *** [6d Kh Ad]
donk4u checks
Spain checks
swcnoob checks
BananaMonkey bets 7
donk4u raises to 29.78
Spain folds
swcnoob folds
BananaMonkey raises to 98.12
donk4u calls 81.59, and is all in
*** TURN *** [6d Kh Ad] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [6d Kh Ad Kd] [Jc]
BananaMonkey wins pot (170.68)
*** SUMMARY ***
Seat 2: swcnoob (39.44) -2.25
Seat 3: Cree (46.25)
Seat 4: BananaMonkey (246.89) +86.84
Seat 5: donk4u (0) -83.84
Seat 6: Spain (65.99) -2.25
Rake 1.50

hand summarys suck btw


PLAYING 1 2 PLO  RIGHT NOW FULL TABLE GUY SITS OUT AND HASN'T BEEN PICKED UP IN 2 HOURS WHILE THERE ARE PEOPLE ON WAITING LIST

I wish this were color coded in some way. It's so hard to follow as it is, Sad.

My best hand so far on SWC was a month or so ago on PLO. Awesome hand as people kept trying to bet as high as possible, but the tl;dr of it was:

Flopped full house
Turned quads
Rivered royal flush

My first time with the royal, and I won a LOT of chips there (tournament) as people were saying in and raising/re-raising as much as possible.
3193  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make Bitcoin transactions untraceable? on: September 20, 2015, 08:26:31 PM
I am wondering whether it is possible to make Bitcoin transactions untraceable or not? As long as I know, Altcoins like Monero, BitcoinDark or Dash are using different concepts in order to make transactions untraceable. Is it also possible for Bitcoin by using some extra tools?

xmr.to allows you to pay anyone that accepts btc completely anonymously by using monero

This isn't really a solution. That's like saying "You can make a credit card transaction anonymously by using your card to get a cash advance and then use the cash." No. This doesn't affect the Bitcoin transaction -- you're just essentially withdrawing the money and using it in other ways.
3194  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] AdBTC - Bitcoin advertising network - free traffic for everyone! on: September 20, 2015, 08:23:20 PM
what is min withdraw for publishers  Huh
0.01 btc. We could lower it if people want.

We got banned by blockchain.info to use their API for no reason, so we are changing with another API today. Withdrawals are already available again, and we hope that by tomorrow promoting will be available too. We could promote your website manually too, if you make a request by e-mailing us.

I think the best method is to allow people to choose their own withdrawal amount (i.e., no minimum), and just charge the transaction fee. That way if someone wants to withdraw 0.0003, they can, and you still aren't losing money by doing this often.
3195  Economy / Gambling / Re: AutoDice - A Beautiful and Fully Functional bot for Dice sites [OPEN SOURCE] on: September 20, 2015, 08:21:57 PM

Few users reported it already in the BetterBets.io thread. Bot working properly, but there might be a script which steals your data.
Learn more about Malware at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware

It's just 1/55, which means it's either a very, very new virus or it's just a false positive. I've seen nothing to make me think AutoDice is stealing anything/infected.
3196  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Win XBOX or PS4| Weekly Rake+VIP| DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: September 20, 2015, 08:20:32 PM
I just ran a virus scan and 1/55 detected | PE:Malware.RDM.37!5.2B[F1]

Looking into this now, these were scanned multiple times unless something changed (which is possible) for the present everyone do not use "Autodice" until we can verify this is unsafe or a false positive. Removing from the thread as well for safety, thank you pthnmj for letting us know.

For precaution everyone running Windows who used this make sure to run a malware scanner to see if your windows machine has been affected. I personally just ran 3 different ones and it found nothing but it's better to be safe. This all could just be a false positive but please do your due diligence.

edit:  After checking it looks more like a false positive from an old AV software that Virustotal added to their scanning (http://rising-antivirus-free.en.softonic.com/?ex=SWH-1740.2) it was last updated 2011 so not reliable but I'll keep the bot off our thread unless Seb comes back to explain just to be safe, thanks everyone!

Generally speaking, 1/55 would be a false positive. IIRC it takes something like 9/55 just to even warrant a second look. I'm on Windows and have had no issues yet.
3197  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] Walmart Gift Cards - $10, $20 or higher - 40% rate on: September 20, 2015, 08:18:01 PM
It has been passed more than 3 days since i talked with OP,
Still no new about my order (vouch), i think it is taking more that i thought,
He has no been online for 2 days now, but in another forum he was active yesterday.
I wrote at his skype but still no answer maybe it's better to wait.

Yeah, I have the feeling they aren't coming back. Just hope nobody threw money to them. If they're disappearing for days at a time, that's not a good show of confidence for the future.

I haven't thrown any money to him yet.
Even though i am highly interested in his service.
I just required a vouch but seems that will not be good if he delay it, at least saying that is not ready now lol.

I'm 99% sure these are carded/hacked accounts he's using to get the codes, so if you do get one from him and use it, it ends up being tracked back to you if you use it online. They can also do the same in store (same as how they catch people using fake money).
3198  Economy / Gambling / Re: LuckyFlop.eu | DAILY 100 MBC FREE ROLL | BLACK JACK | VIDEO POKER | 2BTC | on: September 20, 2015, 05:59:24 AM
This is a great promo! Is this going to stack with the whole "pizza" thing as well?

The pizza promo has been cancel because no one is interested with this. The buy in for this pizza promo is too high maybe owner can reduce the promo to lower buy in and use cheaper thing other than pizza for this

Ah, wasn't aware it was stopped. I did see that for weeks it was pretty stagnant in terms of people that were signed up. It really wasn't a bad deal -- even if you were a net-zero player, you'd still win with that. Same with the new promo, though, but the new one's a lot less lucrative I believe.
3199  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Win XBOX or PS4| Weekly Rake+VIP| DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: September 20, 2015, 05:58:06 AM
omg..after i saw how many raffle ticket allocated

its more than 100k...the chance is very small for me to get the prize...haha but i hope luck come to me..


You can also always save up for a future prize. There's no telling what's coming next, Smiley.
3200  Economy / Goods / Re: ❎►฿ FOR SALE: Smoothie's Hawaiian Property 1 Acre + 4 BR/3BATH on: September 20, 2015, 04:15:06 AM
Shame it's in the U.S. Otherwise I might be looking for exactly that kind of deal, since I am long on BTC, silver and perhaps other of the instruments as well, and seeking a property.

If an opportunity like this presents itself in non-EU Europe, India or SE Asia, contact me! Smiley

Is owning property in the U.S. not favorable for you?

Would be interesting to hear your logic and decision making based on that.

I've had assets seized without recourse a few times so I don't blame him.

What was the reasoning for your assets being seized?

Maybe I'll PM you if I feel like sharing. The point is that they were and I had no recourse, it should have been illegal but it was not. We are not free nor do we actually own what we think we do. We hold what we are allowed to by TPTB.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States





Yeah, there was a pretty detailed story last year about someone that had their house siezed for defaulting on their loan. The issue is the house was fully paid off many years prior, was a clear and free asset, and they even had the deed proving it. It went to court, they lose the house and ended up in a multi-year battle, with the end result being that the bank apparently went for the wrong address (like 110 xxx drive instead of 106 xxx drive). They were given nothing for their hardship (having lost everything, being put on the street to figure out what they could do, having no way to even get another place in the meantime). And apparently this exact situation happens ~1k times a year in the U.S. in the same exact manner.

The simple fact is that even if you have proof of what you say, the court can completely ignore that and screw you regardless over a clerical error.

Not to mention a lot of people don't realize the government can take anything they want, classifying it as "eminent domain." And that's even when there is no claim you did anything wrong. This is also something that happens much more frequently than it should.

Basically, what you think you own, you don't. There's this false sense of security in having things like deeds, but the fact is you can lose it at any time -- all it takes is someone with power to see it and say "I want that." And there are even more loopholes to steal your stuff than just these two situations, but these are the most common.
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