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321  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Eight reasons why BTC will Fail. Thoughts? on: January 07, 2024, 03:35:25 PM

1. Predictable BTC loss is destabilizing.  Every transaction includes risk of  loss, meaning a greater portion of supply that is immobile will grow.  No, that's not solved with divisibility.   The world cannot have confidence trading it's wealth in 1 million BTC with 20 million sitting on chain immobile.  If another million can suddenly wake up because an unknown pool has been hoarding them, it wrecks the market.


This might be an issue when more and more people decide to HODL and the liquidity dries up. But the market should correct itself, prices will go up quickly until people start to consider selling again. We will just start trading in always smaller quantities, until prices drop when the majority of HODL investors start selling. This is not something that is only happening in the crypto world. The stock market faces the same risk and is doing fine for the last 100 years. I don't this is going to be a big issue in the crypto world. A company can just issue new shares overnight and dilute the existing shareholders putting pressure on the price. Or some of the wealth, or large college, or retirement funds that hold large portions of companies could rebalance their portfolios, sending prices down. There are a lot of stocks that are not actively being traded and the market is still doing fine. As long as everybody knows about the issue and can adjust his expectations there is no problem.
322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mental rehabilitation clinic. on: January 07, 2024, 11:55:57 AM
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

Not sure if I understand the approach correctly, we should try to focus the time and energy of the patient on something new completely with the goal to make money? I don't think it's a good approach to argue with addicts, because they will only use logic of it helps them. In case the logic is against them, they will just disregard it. My first argument is going to be that gambling is not here to make us rich. The majority of gamblers are not going to succeed in getting rich through gambling. Basic mathematics are going to speak against any possible counter argument. It takes a large number of small losses to be able to payout one large win for the casino. Also if the patient committed himself to therapy already he must realise that he has a problem and wants to turn his life around.
323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 07, 2024, 11:17:44 AM
This is just how recklessness could mess your life of you can't take control to gamble responsibly.

Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.

This is terrible when a gambling addiction is ruining a family. But I wouldn't say that it's something only linked to gambling, and form of addiction is having severe impacts on the family and can ruin. With gambling addictions the patient will use all the money he gets his hands on to go and play at casinos, with the alcohol addictions he will just go to the supermarket and buy as much alcohol as possible. I think we should be more open to all types of addictions and not to only one. It's hard for the family to see the life of a loved one ruined without being able to change it.
324  Economy / Economics / Re: How do you work toward hodling bitcoin? on: January 07, 2024, 11:11:10 AM
The question is what are the possible means of securing our businesses and at same time saving the bitcoin made through the services we render? Mainly I crafted out a new skill out of me that earns me local currency; fiat. Yet building a fresh business from scratch isn't easy, most often, I still use bitcoin to invest on the local online business. Still keep me yards back from achieving my goal of hodling bitcoin made through online business. Contribute your thoughts and personal experiences. As the influencer didn't elaborate how he made his possible.



I think there are two parts to the story. The first one is having a successful business that generates profits. It doesn't really matter if these profits are being generated in Fiat or crypto currencies. We can always just trade our profit into the currency or coin that we need. The same goes for paying expenses and taxes, any liquid crypto coin can be converted back to fiat to pay the bills. The second part to the story is what we are doing with our profits. Assuming that our business has enough capital and we are not interested in reinvesting our profits, or planning new projects, we can just trade or hodl cryptos. It's a basic calculation to compare the return we make each year with our crypto portfolio, and how much return our business generates. As long as we don't lose any money in trading that is necessary to run our business, I don't see problem with. Also treating the two separately helps to focus on the profitability and to maximize our profits.
325  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if Bitcoin ETF is not Approved on: January 07, 2024, 10:38:00 AM
Though we are very hopeful that the spot Bitcoin ETF will be approved in the early stage of this year but should it not be approved then definitely, the price of Bitcoin will surely dip thereby giving some long term Bitcoin investors another edge to buy and hodl at a more lesser price after which the price will still skyrocket as a result of massive investors buying and Hodling at a cheaper rate so it's just a matter of time as patience is what is required before a favourable result can be ascertained.

Moreover, Bitcoin have stood the test of time without spot ETF approval considering when it was introduced till this time so if it's been disapproved, then the only investors that will be afraid is new investors that haven't hodl for a long time or just want to hodl for a short while as they might try to sell off their coins because of fear of a dip, while it will be a welcome development for long time investors to still continue to accumulate in a more considerate price.
So definitely with time the price is still gonna skyrocket because of high quest to acquire more Bitcoin by long term investors and some investors that have been waiting for a dip before they accumulate.

I agree with you that the short term price impact on bitcoins, if the ETFs are not being approved, should be negative and some investors might lose their motivation to stay in the crypto markets for the near future. However, long term I don't think this going to have an serious impact on the bitcoin price. First of all, just because the ETFs won't be approved doesn't mean they don't come at a later stage. It could just take a few more years for all the big ETF companies creating their own crypto departments. Secondly, investors who are looking for exposure to bitcoins are not going away. If the investors can't buy ETFs, they can still buy coins directly. I would expect to see a rise of spot investors to buy the coins the ETF companies would have bought. The long term trend for Bitcoin is going to remain positive and investors will use other forms of investment to get their desired exposure. 

326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Alter Ego In Gambling on: January 06, 2024, 04:42:39 PM

How about you Are you gambling in a way that is very different from your true personality,


No, I don't think that I have a different Ego when I gamble to the rest of my everyday life Ego. I enjoy gambling whenever possible and have done so at a young age before being able to visit casinos. Competitiveness is what brought me into many different games at a young age and it makes it so much more fun when you can bet money with it. For example, my friends and I have already played cards for money at the age of 14. So, if I wouldn't gamble at a casino at all I would just gamble more with friends directly and not change at all.
327  Economy / Gambling / Re: UNREAL!! Sportsbet.io pays out a $42,000,000 USDT Casino WIN!! on: January 06, 2024, 03:58:26 PM

The huge prize was one of Games Global’s WowPot!™ progressive jackpots, which begin at 2 million euros but regularly grow to be much larger.  Cool Cool

 Grin Grin The winning customer has since withdrawn his winnings and no doubt had a New Year's Eve party like never before!


Wow that's a crazy return on your investment. I had no idea you could be making such kind of returns by playing slots alone. Hitting a jackpot is rare in slots, but hitting one that pays out 42 million is crazy. Congratulations for the lucky winner if he is here on the forum and I hope he is going to invest that money wisely. With so much money you can retire and just live off the interest. Also nice to see that Sportsbet paid out the win and didn't try to avoid it. All the casino scandals in the past make you cautious a bit when it comes to such large wins. But risking a well known brand name only for a quick profit doesn't make sense. Guess I will have to look out in the future for such extra high jackpots.
328  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if all Bitcoin is lost? on: January 06, 2024, 02:42:06 PM
What would happen if all Bitcoin is mined and all Bitcoin is lost?

It's going to take a long time for all the bitcoin to be mined. And even today, it's hard to find anybody today who hasn't heard about crypto currencies before. So many different crypto coins have been around for many years and been in the newspapers, I would say most people know a crypto investor today. In 50 years I think it will be impossible to find anybody that hasnt heard about cryptos and probably most people will use it regularly. Among my family and friends are mostly open people who are not against cryptos. Only my mother and grandmother are against it, without understanding it. They never used online banking, so they are against everything new that involves money and isn't cash. There two main arguments against something new is either it's only for rich people, or it's a scam. Both of these arguments are hard to destroy if the person isn't willing to learn more about the subject. But over time everybody is going to change their mind, because cryptos are not going to disappear. Which is why I believe it's impossible for all the bitcoins to be lost. Investors are going to take good care of their keys and will not abandon them.
329  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Maybe future trade is gambling on: January 06, 2024, 02:06:52 PM
I think futures trading is a form of gambling. I saw the last six months report of a younger brother who is very close to me. He knows about crypto from my younger brother. He was taught the holding trade. Meaning, he was given an idea of how to trade on the spot. But he can learn about how to trade futures with the help of YouTube. And without informing my younger brother, he slowly started trading futures. After six months, the condition of his family became very bad. He was born in a middle class family. Later, the area was talking about his loss. I found out from his family that he lost around 14 thousand dollars trading crypto. I told him the last time I saw him to buy bitcoins with all his wealth. But he didn't hear anything. Later he sold his grandfather's land and paid off all his loans. Later I came to know from him that he knows about futures trade from YouTube and lost all his dollars by trading without understanding the value of x.

Now my question is futures trade is actually gambling? Or how did he lose all his dollars?

It's hard to give a general answer here, but futures trading is definitely not gambling. Gambling is a complete game of chance where you play against the house, that has an advantage over you through the house edge. With futures trading you have a contract to buy a particular asset at a later stage in time, where you make a profit if the spot price is higher than your future reference price, or a loss if the price is lower. The higher volatility of futures comes from the leverage involved, you only put down the money for the margin account that is much lower than the spot price of the coin. Assuming that your friend lost so much money in a very short amount of time, he must have gambled way above his means. Without proper risk management, futures trading can lead to large losses. A buy and hold strategy is not really advisable for futures, because prices can change quickly. We should react with the price change and sit through large swings. Getting wiped out with futures and being forced to liquidate is devastating and should be avoided at all cost.
330  Economy / Economics / Re: How will the BRICS currency influence Bitcoin? on: January 06, 2024, 11:16:23 AM

So, we have seen a recent attempt by some of the BRICS nations to create their own currency to rival the US dollar in international trade. We know some countries that form part of this alliance, have been sanctioned and international transactions were blocked by SWIFT that are controlled by Western countries.

A lot of these countries started to use Crypto currencies like Bitcoin to bypass these restrictions, so it will be natural that less demand for Bitcoin would occur, once these countries created their own single currency.

What do you think will happen to Bitcoin, when these BRICS countries created their own digital currency? Will there be a significant drop in the demand for Bitcoin?

Do you think BRICS countries might opt to use Bitcoin for international trade or even as a replacement for the US Dollar? Will they simply exchange local currencies OR will they develop something new? ( Something that can be controlled by them?)

Let's discuss this...


 

In my opinion there is no unity among the BRICS to create their own digital currency. The have a common goal to reduce the international dependency on US Dollar, but no solution on how to achieve it. The problem is that all of the big countries like India, China and Russia want to see their own currency as the new world currency and are not willing to support someone else. Which is why I don't think that any of the digital currencies by BRICS are going to be a competition for Bitcoin. It won't change the demand for Bitcoins as it's still going to be the number one crypto currency that is accept all around the world. Russia is the only country at the moment engaged in a major war and being sanction by most of the western world, what makes the Rubel the least likely currency to reach any international dominance. Also, the west is very cautious with China and their control of the economy and their currency, which leaves India as the only real alternative to create a counterweight to the US Dollar. But India is not in the economic position to create their own stable digital currency that would settle the majority of international trade. The most likely outcome is that the US Dollar will lose more international market share, but at a slow rate and it won't be one currency alone that will take over the market share, rather a rise in bilateral trading between countries directly.
331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the tension make you take risk that are sometimes worth it? on: January 03, 2024, 03:05:57 PM

So I would like to know your own experience when making or taking risk in gambling under pressure.

I don't think that the pressure or stress we experience when gambling is anything unique to gambling. Life itself has a lot of pressure, that comes from our work, problems at home, health issues or any other form of activities that involve money and risk. For example, a trader will be very used to dealing under pressure and has mechanism to not be affected by it severely. For me the best approach to gambling is to look at it as a form of entertainment. I try to have fund and a good time, if things get to intense I will just quit for the night and try again another day. That's the good thing about gambling, the games are always the same and will be around 24/7. There is no need to spend all day at the casino, we can just spread our time out over a week or two.
332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Focus on how much you may lose and not only the potential win. on: January 03, 2024, 02:36:22 PM

The fact that you won  using $1k today doesn't give assurance that if you had used higher amount or that your next bet that you probably increased the wager in order to win a bigger amount will play. As gamblers let not focus all attention on the amount that we may by chance of luck win but on what we are to lose should we fail to win the bet, in that way we won't spend on gambling above what we can afford to lose.
Stay in check!

I fully agree with you, it's so much more important to focus on the risk side of gambling than it is to focus on the potential profit we can make. It should be obvious that the more money we use the more profit we could make from gambling. The problem is that if we only focus on the winnings is that we face the risk to get large losses. At least for me the goal is more to avoid large losses than to get the maximum possible return. The worst thing in gambling that could happen would be to go broke. Once we lose all our money there is no coming back. As long as we still keep some of our bankroll, we always have the chance to recover at a later stage.
333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and health concern on: January 02, 2024, 05:42:30 PM

My question is :
Do you know the status of your health while gambling and what do you do if you happen to suffer a mild or hard stroke?

This is why I make it a point to open my messenger and have my loved one that I can contact in case, whenever I'm playing alone.


That is terrible, imagine after all those years you finally manage to win a jackpot only to suffer a medical emergency and not be able to enjoy your winnings anymore. As for my own health I don't think I am old enough yet to suffer such a serious issue. I am overnight and and don't exercise enough, so when I am older I should definitely keep an eye on my health. The excitement from gambling still feels fine and I enjoy it. My father had a stroke and I know it's terrible, you can see completely one half of the body to stop reacting. Luckily it was only a minor stroke and he gets the right medication now. If we know about our conditions then it's better to only gamble in small amounts and keep the excitement to a lower level.
334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are You Buying More Tickets To Increase Your chances on: January 02, 2024, 05:30:21 PM

How about you as a Lotto bettor do you buy more tickets when the prize skyrocketed and how many more tickets are you adding


Lottery had been a very common thing in my family for many years. My grand father played the lottery all his life and had a fixed set of numbers he would always play. My mother is playing regularly as well and always pick the birthdays of her kids. The problem is that both of them never won anything for all the money they used to buy the tickets. I am the complete when it comes to the lottery, I don't have a fixed set of numbers and I also don't play every week. It makes the most sense for me to only play when the jackpot is very high and then I play more numbers. So, instead of playing when the jackpot is low I just save my money and play usually 6 fields when the jackpot is near a new ATH. It's all about maximising my winnings if I ever manage to beat the jackpot.
335  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Gewinnspiel: (neues?) Bitcoin Allzeithoch im Jahr 2023 on: January 02, 2024, 11:03:16 AM
Gratulation zum Gewinn und hoffen wir einmal, dass die Transaktionsgebühren nicht direkt wieder ansteigen, denn wer weiß, wie lange das so bleibt.  Cheesy
Auf ein neues Allzeithoch in 2024.  Smiley

Danke @1miau, ist schon gekommen. Naja das mit den 45,000 Level hat nicht wirklich lange gedauert  Grin gleich im ersten Tag vom neuen Jahr. Schade dass das Gewinnspiel nicht einen Tag länger lief. Wenn es soweiter geht dann ist ein neues Allezeithoch definitiv drin in 2024.
336  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a Replacement for a College Savings Plan on: January 02, 2024, 10:53:08 AM

At this rate, I am seeing that now most corporate companies plan to remove the college degree requirement for jobs, which will transform the college education long term, and its looking like it won't even be needed unless you're going to be a PhD or a Lawyer etc etc.

The traditional mutual fund / 529 plan isn't really needed anymore if college isn't going to be a requirement, but now I am more so just thinking of a life savings plan is a much better and more flexible option. Maybe just set them each up a wallet and load x amount each making quarterly contributions. By the time they are old enough surely they would have more money in that account anyways compared to the mutual fund, right?



In my country I noticed the exact opposite, a Bachelors degree becomes the norm today and whereas maybe 10% of the young people went to university back in the days, it's probably 35-45% today. There are so many school schemes that offer your high school diploma during evening hours and even people who aborted school at a young age will come back later. Also the whole university landscape changed a lot in the last 20 years. A lot of so-called universities are working together with companies and offer applied degrees, where you will spend half the time working full time and half the time studying. The company will pay for your education and expects you to keep working for them after you finish graduation. Which is why I feel like that the Bachelor’s degree became mandatory for many jobs today. I am not so familiar with the various savings plans from insurance companies, but doesn't a life savings plan usually mean that you only get the money after retirement? In my country the whole concept of a life savings contract is that you get a certain amount of minimum expected return, and everything above that is not guaranteed and based on return of your assets. If you ask me, I would always prefer to invest the money myself and don't pay for all the fees for the insurance company. Saving on our own gives us all the freedom to buy crypto currencies and we can also withdraw money if it's needed.
337  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Anyone can succeed as a bitcoin trader on: January 01, 2024, 09:08:15 PM

Knowing how to trade would only get you that far, but not j to the realm of successful traders. It takes a whole lot of desire to win, persistence and consistency to be a successful trader. So I assure that anyone who wants to be a successful trader can be by pursuing with passion.


 

When it comes to trading knowledge is important, it's like the foundation upon a successful trader is building his fortune. Without knowledge we are not going to succeed long term, because everybody can get lucky a few times and make the right trades, but outperforming the market over a longer period of time requires skill and knowledge. That is why there are so many books and course about trading, so that everybody can learn the basic before using larger amounts of money to trade. Passion and consistency are important to stay motivated and keep learning new strategies, we need focus on our long-term goals of building a large portfolio and reaching financial independence. Also, passion is what is going to help us to stick through the though times. There will always be a losing streak where it seems we can’t beat the market. During those times it’s important to believe in ourselves and having a strong interest and passion into trading is what will prevent us from quitting. Short term setbacks should not be a concern, as long as we focus on the big picture and manage to recover during the next bull run again.

 
338  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Gewinnspiel: (neues?) Bitcoin Allzeithoch im Jahr 2023 on: January 01, 2024, 07:41:08 PM
Vielen Dank nochmal an 1miau an das klasse Gewinnspiel. Ist schon einige Zeit her dass ich hier was gewonnen haben. So fängt das neue Jahr gleich viel besser an.

Meine Bitcoin Adresse: bc1qsrh2pu5l4ctysujwu957xuswy7hhxqj0rcrajy

Hatte noch bis zum Ende gehofft dass die 45,000er Marke doch noch geknackt wird. Herzlichen Glückwunsch natürlich auch an den ersten und zweiten Platz.

Frohes neues Jahr.
339  Economy / Economics / Re: How to gain money on: January 01, 2024, 07:37:17 PM

Without:

Charity, begging, illegal, stocks, trading.


 

The best way to get a steady source of income would be to find a job. Working full time 8 hours per day, 5 days per week will lead to a decent payslip each month that should cover all our expenses and cost. If we don't spend too much money each month, we will even be able to save some of that money and can use it for the future. Assuming you already have a job and are looking for ways to make additional money, you could ask your boss for overtime or to work on weekends/holidays to make additional money from your time. At the company where I work, we can actually choose if we want our overtime to be paid or if we want use it as additional vacation days. Most of my colleagues use their time for additional vacation days, whereas I always want it to be paid out. If for some reason there is no chance to make additional money at your company, you could consider selling some of your old stuff that you don't need anymore. It's a quick and easy way to raise some additional money.

 
340  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will you sell your bitcoin to blackrock? on: December 31, 2023, 09:30:32 PM

Imagine a situation where you own a house and a piece of land it's built on. You estimated the value of the whole thing to be $500k. One day someone knocks on your door and offers you $2m all of a sudden. Will you sell or suspect they know more than you? Maybe there's an oil deposit underneath your house? Maybe there's geothermal energy source? Maybe an international company has plans to build a facility nearby and will need your land for whatever price?

 

I'm asking this because if the funds get approved all at once there will be a large pressure on bitcoin's price and supply is, as we all know, limited.

Nobody buys bitcoin to sell it cheaper, so if they offer you $100k, they think it will go higher. If they offer $1m it's again going to go higher according to them.

Will you simply give it away once someone hands you $100k, or decide that it's cheap and they know more than they're willing to share?


 

That is a tricky question, because I don't think BlackRock knows more than we do, but we all know that the supply of Bitcoin is limited and if someone controls the majority of the market, he will be able to squeeze prices. As for the story of the house, it all comes down to if you enjoy living in your house and that community, or if you can consider selling it. Assuming I would find a similar house with same sizes for 500k, then I would be selling rather quickly and enjoy the 1.5m cash I get for free. Investing all that money and only using the interest each year is giving a nice boost to my income. With Bitcoin the story would be a bit different, because we don't have to sell all your coins at once. With a house or apartment, we can only sell or keep, there is no in-between. Whenever there is a price jump to 100k or 1m I would only consider to sell maybe 25% of my holdings and never everything, because there is no hard cap on the bitcoin price, it could always rise higher.

 
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