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321  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 06:02:07 PM
This is a sad day.

My sisters husband, his dad passed away from Covid-19 this morning.

He didn't had any health problems, dead within 12 hours just like that. Cry

I am very sorry to hear that. Stay safe!
322  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 04:18:22 AM
Now, think about this guys... you know Theymos takes this April 1st seriously... This is not gonna end here... The virtual infection is funny and all laughs, but what will happen when the first "virtual deaths" start to happen? Password change? Autoban? Auto-shilling altcoins? Posting in META?!?!

Just. Think. About. It.
323  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 04:10:09 AM
Oh! Wow! You found the cure!!!
324  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 04:04:27 AM
You basically just cou͙͠g͎͉͍͖͐̾͌̍ḥ̨̟͕̈́̌̃͠e̛͍̗̝̝̿͡͞d̦̟̮̰͒̈́̿̈̋͟ oń̺ ̠̊ḿ̨͎̪͂̍̃ͅė͔̥̜͠͞!̩͇̼̬͍̀̓̊͌̕ ͕͓̟̈̿̄̉͜Ļ̥͌̀o̩̳̚͘͟͡oks like not quoting you bac͜͠k͈̲͗̊ is my virtual face mask

I don̝͈̟̊̀̓ņ̞̰͖͛̒̔͆o͉̖͗̒. ̹̺̱̙̆̑̊̀͘͟I̖͓͎͖̊̽̽͗ ͈̥̙͕̌̈́̅͞h̬̲͍̟͌͌̾͝ä̦́ve quoted and been quote͓̅̄̐͢͝ͅͅḏ͇̍̿͝ͅ ̯͍̊̒á͉̖͒n̠͈̻͔̤̉̈́̋̇̊d̺͖̊͑ ̨͇͓̰̀̓̄̌ȃ̪̜̀͒͜m̞̪̹̏͆͊ ̟̃ṕ͙͚̽e̬͛͟͡r̀͜fectly fine.

It must be somethi̹̘̯̱͒̇̀̋n̝̰͇̐͌̆g ̡̛̯̤̻̽̆͢͠͞e͔͡ls̬̉è̪̞͡.̧̮̫̹̳͐͆̾̀̐.̮̹̈̎̾͜.
325  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 03:50:38 AM
via Im̞̊g͕̭̪̃̎̏͗͜f̦̗̬̩̫̎̀͆̈́̕l̜͈̈͡ip̻̂ ̛̠͚̝̒͂M̱͇̰̊̓͠e̲͈͛̆m̥̆ḙ͕̓͡ G̝̽e̓͟nerator
326  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 03:41:42 AM
Don't tou̫̤̾͘ĉ̦̞͆h̝̹͔̪̋̈́̈́͝ me assho̢̳͆͠l̫͑ȇ͎s!!

Wher̦̮͍͛̎͒͢͝ẻ̼̹̿'̌͜s͙̬͖͍̪̄̾̃̈́͠ ̺̖̦͍̀̓̊͠h͇̣̦̑͐͠ô͔mer!?? I nee̢̡̳͈̞̐̽̈́̐̉d͌ͅ ͖̘̽̍a m̯̬̏̎a̛͙sk͔̫̎̚ ̰̞̖̰͌̏̀͡i̩͈̘̎̑͛n̨̤̾͞ ̰̈́̇͟m̧̦̪͍̓̌͒̏y̡͇̤̤̿́̎̓ ̩̱̻̔̾͒a͚̞̓̆̀͢v̢̰̾͐at̰̣̔̅a̢̝͑͡r̖̦̈́̇̆ͅ ͉̈́n͚̟̻̑̒͆͊͢o̗̎w̳̞̉͡!̹͚͚̫̿͗̋͑ ̞̻̂͞.̤̪̖̯̇́͋͌.̤̙̤̜̽̑̎̾.̎͢ ̡͈͔̙̱̄̓̾̊̋J̨͈̹̔̕͞e̢̙͍̔̐͆s̛̥̦͎̝̉̏̿ú̩ş̭̂̚!̧͔͎̘͒̄̉͡ ̨̫͇̤̳̎̃̍͐͠Ha͉̹͌̐v̰͙͒͆ḛ͛ ̖͌I͍̥͇̫͐͘̚͡ just discovered ǟ̠̠̞̲̓̕ ̟̏n̖̋ew trend? L̛̟̚ͅO̩͞L!
327  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 03:33:03 AM
You guys are walking dead, I'm gonǹ̛̤̜ā̢̙͂ ̛̤̤̻̜̇̎̐m̠̺̒̒a̬͇̞͘͡͞k͇͉̊̒̽͢ȩ̧̂́ ͖̊į̤͎̬̂̌̿͡t͚͎̒͂̐͢ ͔͎̂͛̕͢o͎̼̊̃ư̢̢͙͎̔̍̚t̢̺͙̀̑͗ť̡̟̏̈́͜ą̛̜̺̈́͌ ͔̃h͉͑ě̖̣̏r͉̭̀̍̄͟e ̨̞́͑͒͗͜͜a̘͔̻̳̍͌̑̚l͍̪͊͑i͉̥̳̋̉̄v̖̳̪̐͂̕e!͎͒

Jimbo you come near me I'm gonna have to drop the hammer!

Yeah, this shit is spreading fast! We better get the fuć̖ḱ͈̘̞̿̉ ̧̰̩̼̜͗̔̌͆̐o̧̯̗̻̱͑̎́̂̽u̹͖͌̐t̤͚̝̓̀̄ṫ̡͕̉̋͟ä̗̱́̈́̍͢ ̥̩͇́̊́͜͝h̛̖͎̝̰͚̔̆̄͝e̜̦̱͙̋̐͂͡ṙ͚̦͚̠͗̓͛͠ͅė̞̘̟̿͋ ͈̻͛̉b͓̞̆̊e̢̪̬̎̌͐f̟̙͂͆͐̆͜ͅore we become infected too!
328  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 03:22:57 AM
Where's Infofront? We need to close the walls NOW!

Can you infected guys stop posting FFS! You are spreading it!

Was sirazimuth WO's patient zero?

cough cough cough sneeze

Nobody's gonna make me miss the spring break party!


I AM SAFE. I ALREADY TOOK MY CLOROQUINE!

What's CLOROQUINE?

You should ask bitbollo. He's a P̙̓͊͟h̢̿aȓ̨͉͡ṁ͙̟̣̃̓à̧̜͂͠ͅc̮̼̩̓̌́ì̮̝̗̃̃͆͟s̞͋ṭ͛.
329  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 03:12:30 AM
Where's Infofront? We need to close the walls NOW!

Can you infected guys stop posting FFS! You are spreading it!

Was sirazimuth WO's patient zero?

cough cough cough sneeze

Nobody's gonna make me miss the spring break party!


I AM SAFE. I ALREADY TOOK MY  ̹̞̄͊C̼̭̩̃̃̽L͚͍̤̘͒̉̎̒̍ͅO͓̔R͇̍̊͢O̗͙̬̗̤̾̓͋̕͡Q͓̼͌͆Ư̢̫̂͠ͅI̢̩̭̅͗̉̍͟N̡̛̲̭͑̈́̂͢E̮̔!̫̬͆̂
330  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 02:54:24 AM
Where's Infofront? We need to close the walls NOW!

Can you infected guys stop posting FFS! You are spreading it!

Was sirazimuth WO's patient zero?
331  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2020, 02:50:02 AM
What triggers this shit?

PM's?
332  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2020, 10:27:09 PM

...

Ah I forget... it's totally worthless if some doctor claim this prophylactic usage without any reference and without any data...  
Other doctors are not fool or stupid that waste time running trials evaluating medicine in scientific and rigorous method!
Did you have miracle substance? OK PROOF IT or SHUT UP!
FDA and other health authorities have been developed to avoid THESE USELESS CLAIM WITHOUT ANY REFERENCE !

 

Just to make this clear and from your expert opinion as a pharmacist (working in the drug development/research field I assume): Are you saying that hydroxychloroquine has been proven completely useless as a treatment in the early stages of covid-19 infection (as the graph you posted would imply even if the conditions and small sample are far from ideal) or just only that the associated risks could (maybe) exceed its possible benefits?

Or maybe you are just saying that right now there is not ANY proper/official study that would be enough to show the usefulness of it in treatment covid-19 even if it is already being widely used in many hospitals worldwide (where supplies allow which is the main problem they are complaining about)?

I am just trying to know where exactly lies your strong disagreement with my OPINION.
333  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2020, 09:04:16 PM
Tbh I heard doctors saying both that it has a prophylactic use and not.

In a time like this where 2 doctors can suggest the exact opposite of something you can't really say that science is the way.

If 2 doctors can be different than each other like it is black and white I think everybody can have his/her opinion on the matter because we are all like headless chickens right now.

Just don't swallow more than 1 pill in a week and you should be fine. (as a prophylactic)

*I actually have a proof that the health workers are using hydroxychloroquine as prophylactic. It is directly from a local hospital here. (maybe they don't know what they are doing too. that's also possible)

Maybe "prophylactic" is not the right word to use... but when you can't know if you have already been infected because lack of testing and symptoms in the early stage and you only know you have been clearly exposed (like most health workers currently have been) it makes some sense to use it. I guess the health workers you know are using it on their own as a preventative measure... or has it been approved by protocols or directives on that particular hospital?
334  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2020, 08:20:35 PM
In a ideal world, we should be giving hidroxicloroquine as a profylactic to health workers that are greatly exposed to the virus and also to everyone in the early stages of the infection. But... Not only we don't test people until they show clear symptoms of difficulty of breathing (noone is being tested otherwise, due to lack of tests) but even then, there is not enough supplies for all positives.

We don't have enough information about real efficacy of that product... first of all (and in ideal word this is enough)

Why are you saying (very confident, like an FDA official Cheesy ) that this should be used as a PROFYLACTIC.... when actually has been tested only for people infected and not for PROFYLACTIC usage?

Why are you giving your useless opinion about drugs and treatment?
There are not evidence of what are you saying... Seriously...this is science is not "In your honest opinion" is not only totally worthless is also DANGEROUS!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232377.msg54066125#msg54066125



Yes, it is my honest opinion based on available data. I guess you are also giving your honest opinion, and that is fine. I would encourage you to improve your research, at least in relation of your strong statement about "having only been tested for people infected and not for profylactic usage" though. Also, when I say profilactic/preventive I mean it can help stop slow the reproduction of the virus once infected not that it can prevent infection but as you can never know when you are going to be exposed/infected maybe, just maybe, it makes sense to use it preventively in case of people with a very high risk (health workers with not enough PPE) or suspect of infection.

I have never said that there were conclusive and much less an officially vetoed stance about it.
 
Also, please check the very own thread you just posted and the comments about the graph you posted. I do agree with most of them. Not because I know better... But just because those comments and findings are coherent to most other "somewhat" reliable sources I have checked.

That being said, the best thing to do at this time is to avoid getting exposed to the virus and wait till it is safe outside and hospitals are not overwhelmed so that you can receive proper treatment. I guess we can at least strongly agree on that.

P.S.: If I were infected... I would like to have hydroxycloroquine treatment given to me AS EARLY as possible if given the choice. But hey, that's just me and until we KNOW BETTER.
335  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2020, 07:52:20 PM

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromycin works. They keep censoring Tucker Carlson, Bolonsaro etc who talk about Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin. Big pharma wants everyone to wait for their vaccine so they can make billions of dollars.

I want to believe this. I really do but if this combination is really effective against covid... why are so many still dying? I don't think there is a shortage of these old drugs.

There are few possibilities:

1) It doesn't work.

2) Doctors don't know it or they are too stupid.

3) Doctors are killing people knowingly by not using them. (Big pharma conspiracy)

Yes there is shortage. Yes, it seems to work, there is enough evidence to support it does.

Problem here is:

1) Even if there is enough evidence that it does work, those are not "officially" vetoed.
2) Due to limit reserves and the point above, doctors are only using it at their own discretion (each hospital protocols) and only for patients that are already showing VERY bad pneumony. TOO LATE. It should be used at the early stage of infection (or even as a preventative measure) to slow rate of reproduction of the virus so that the inmune system can catch up.


This is correct. Hydroxychloroquine is not the magic bullet but it does have a good success rate in at least one study but it should be given early. It has side effects that can be dangerous so should not be taken prophylactically. Use Vitamin C and chelated Zinc to boost your immune response.

In a ideal world, we should be giving hidroxicloroquine as a profylactic to health workers that are greatly exposed to the virus and also to everyone in the early stages of the infection. But... Not only we don't test people until they show clear symptoms of difficulty of breathing (noone is being tested otherwise, due to lack of tests) but even then, there is not enough supplies for all positives.
336  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2020, 07:47:57 PM
2) Due to limit reserves and the point above, doctors are only using it at their own discretion (each hospital protocols) and only for patients that are already showing VERY bad pneumony. TOO LATE. It should be used at the early stage of infection (or even as a preventative measure) to slow rate of reproduction of the virus so that the inmune system can catch up.


That is...

2) Doctors don't know it or they are too stupid.

Scarcity. There are not enough for treating everyone.
337  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2020, 06:36:21 PM

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromycin works. They keep censoring Tucker Carlson, Bolonsaro etc who talk about Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin. Big pharma wants everyone to wait for their vaccine so they can make billions of dollars.

I want to believe this. I really do but if this combination is really effective against covid... why are so many still dying? I don't think there is a shortage of these old drugs.

There are few possibilities:

1) It doesn't work.

2) Doctors don't know it or they are too stupid.

3) Doctors are killing people knowingly by not using them. (Big pharma conspiracy)

Yes there is shortage. Yes, it seems to work, there is enough evidence to support it does.

Problem here is:

1) Even if there is enough evidence that it does work, those are not "officially" vetoed.
2) Due to limit reserves and the point above, doctors are only using it at their own discretion (each hospital protocols) and only for patients that are already showing VERY bad pneumony. TOO LATE. It should be used at the early stage of infection (or even as a preventative measure) to slow rate of reproduction of the virus so that the inmune system can catch up.
338  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 30, 2020, 08:51:06 PM
What was the price at this sort of time before the halving in 2016, I can’t remember?


Around $400-$500

No, wait, around $600-$700 one month before the halving (july)
339  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 30, 2020, 08:19:34 PM
500BTC (aprox) Buy wall at $6500 on Bitstamp.

Being eaten alive. Done.
340  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 30, 2020, 07:46:23 PM
Adapt or die.



If that were the case... Are you sure you would not be outbided in that scenario?

I suspect theres more old people able to pay a few tens of millions to save his life than there is available ICU beds + ventilator in the private health sector.
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