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1301  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 27, 2019, 10:51:46 PM
Drank a bit too much and cut out coffee today. I feel like shit, happy to see we held strong over $5k and didn't flounder.

We feel the same @the moment, only when I was driving to the next place.... I drive in a police stop for b00z control and got myself a 3h driving license taken of!!! And probably a ticket, first one in my life F*** those F***ers

So we both are F***ed up right now but drunk so having Fun Cheesy

Its Saturday after all

That's why I decided to (almost) stop driving several years ago. I can have others to drive for me, but I prefer to do the drinking myself.... Well, I also loved driving myself but... Guess I can't have everything. Sad

So many stupid laws....

Anyway, today I am very butthurt after knowing how much it gonna cost me to prune/trim my palm trees. Jesus, I feel like I chose the wrong job in life!

Go Bitcoin go! at this rate I am gonna need your help soon!!

And enjoy your saturday Mic! Don't let em get you down!!


1302  Other / Meta / Re: MERIT SOURCE application on: April 27, 2019, 10:45:09 PM
I support the proposal that MicG should be a merit source.  In my humble opinion, he would be a worthy candidate.

He sort of ties the thread together.

Fully agreed.

The dude abides.
1303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 27, 2019, 09:33:48 PM


Boring afternoon, solution:
Sort the hats.
I will save and update the record now that it is created.

Awesome!

Not sure it is the same order in which they were created or, at least, some people had different previous versions that are not in the list.

P.S.: After I got up to date on the thread I see they were not ordered by any criteria, somehow I was wrong in thinking they were.
1304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 27, 2019, 09:22:45 PM
yeah...I got a really bad feeling about the coming weeks

Pussy.

I'm doing an extra morning set of 10 reps with my titanium plates. I feel no pain. The only way is up.

Please let me suggest you to add some cologne spraying between each rep for full endurance training.
1305  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 27, 2019, 09:17:26 PM

Long at $20k is a dumb explanation.

No one with any brains is long at $20k for 16 months without, at minimum, making some additional buys to bring down their average cost per BTC.

In other words, it should be quite difficult to sympathize with anyone who made that kind of dumb gambling move to buy at $20k and to sit on it without having further plans and action in the 16 months.

Edit:  By the way, you raised a bit of a different point, Hueristic, so we are deviating from the original point that I was attempting to make.  I went back to my original post, linked above, and for context, that post was questioning how it seems that so many people involved in such a greatly performing asset class, such as bitcoin, since 2013 are "poor."

Maybe because after tasting the paper richness during december 2017 we can now feel how poor we are in comparison? Maybe?
1306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 27, 2019, 09:13:51 AM
^ r0ach... The guy that has been right since Bitcoin topped at $700 to never rise again. Oh wait....

Only missed a 28 X from his 700, thats considered almost right  Cheesy  Cheesy



At least he was right on his call about silver bottom.... oh! wait again....

Jews?
1307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 27, 2019, 09:10:04 AM
^ r0ach... The guy that has been right since Bitcoin topped at $700 to never rise again. Oh wait....

Ehmmmm, I mean, the guy that has been right since silver bottomed at $20 to... oh wait...


Nevermind.
1308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 26, 2019, 10:42:40 PM
^ The funds have not been lost, they have only been seized!!!

Yeah, absolutely nothing to worry.
1309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 26, 2019, 10:56:28 AM
What if that account is actually THE brand new account with a nickname (not his real name)?

The cynic in me says people know we’re generous Merit givers in this thread. Very convenient a Brand New account makes its first post here saying how they’ve just bought their first bitcoin & oh look, 21 Merit received.

Straight to the first signature campaign or bounty requring received Merit to earn money, never to post in the WO again.

Hmmmmm!

Yup, that's why I give them benefit of doubt... but no merits until I have verified their post history and consistency. You know, don't trust, verify Wink

Also, even if a specific newbie is completely legit, shaddy ones might see and try to replicate.
1310  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 26, 2019, 10:37:52 AM
I just have bought my ever first bitcoin. Not that much though (not preferred to share). I have had researched on bitcoin since January 2018 but didn't dare to invest in. I spent a hour or two daily on it to learn about it. Today, I have deposited a large amount of my savings and purchased bitcoin. I can feel the ride.

Welcome to this crazy experience! You won't have a dull moment for sure Tongue
1311  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 26, 2019, 09:17:44 AM
^this

In other words, the odds of Last of the V8 winning his bet are on the cusp of going against him... sucks to be poor (V8).
You would know Wink

Huh?  Me doesn't understand U.

I have done pretty well through my whole life, of course with several periods of frugality, or choices to live within my means, but I have never felt myself to be poor.

On the other hand, when I witness certain levels of wealth extravagance that some rich folks enjoy, on a relative basis, I might have considered myself as poor... yet even after, having said all that, I am struggling to understand your response involving my own level of "poor" situation.

Blah. Stop the nonsense. We ARE ALL POOR. Wake me up at $50K...
1312  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 26, 2019, 08:57:12 AM
It's well worth reading the doc. It sounds like a truly bizarre situation.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=vIexA1b0spKOnK_PLUS_ZUGTJ3A==&system=prod

'Documents provided to OAG demonstrate that by mid-20 18. Bifinex was having extreme difficulty honoring its clients' requests to withdraw their money from the trading platform because Crypto Capital which held all or almost all of Bitfinex·s funds refused to process customer withdrawal requests and refused or was unable to return any funds to Bitfinex.'

It looks like they entrusted everything and were totally beholden to some Panamanian nobodies and were reduced to pleading for their own money from them. How the did BFX allow themselves to get into a situation like that?


Yep - they popped a cool billion dollars (some theirs but mostly client's money) with a dodgy offshore 'payment processor' to do payouts to customers within the banking system - as Finex had no practical access to it.  Around 800 million has now either been lost or simply stolen.

The pleading emails from 'Merlin' at Finex asking, nay pleading nicely to his mate 'Oz' at purported payment processer 'Crypto Capital' to at least pop a $100 million over as things were getting desperate are instructive.


Not YOUR bank, not you FIAT! lol

Some brutal poetic justice there...
1313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 11:16:22 PM
Bah. This is fine.
1314  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 12:01:48 PM
If we put aside all theory about Craig etc.

Then would love to see fictional biography movie on Satoshi in next 10-20 years and if director is good then it could turn out to be good mind fuck movie. where anonymous person starts his journey as a nerdy programmer and ends up as a visionary.

The Unusual Suspects ?


 Cool

Minus violence + silent movie? all we hearing keyboard , background noise, seeing the actor but limited voice over more like silent movie.

Would be great if some questions left unanswered in the end (identity of Satoshi etc ) then sequel after 30 years.

Will turn 80 by then.

@bitserve how about he-she is one of the WO member or may be trolling here:D very unlikely scenario but just for fun ....



Fun fact: In the movie there was a *Kobayashi* that some people still think it was the real Kaiser Soze.


Btw... where are my fucking goxcoins?
1315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 11:23:53 AM
If we put aside all theory about Craig etc.

Then would love to see fictional biography movie on Satoshi in next 10-20 years and if director is good then it could turn out to be good mind fuck movie. where anonymous person starts his journey as a nerdy programmer and ends up as a visionary.

The Unusual Suspects ?


 Cool

Could have a great shocking ending when in the last minutes it is realised Kaiser Soze Satoshi was there all the time "hiding" in plain sight without anyone noticing it was him.
1316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 10:33:54 AM
If there was an additional tax for each children you have instead of social benefits maybe they would have a second thought... or maybe not Sad

It's also ironical that the same people that complain there are not enough jobs are the ones making new babies... for which they can't even provide basic education and life advice.

Paying for other people to breed has always turned my stomach, that is one of the biggest faults of governments.

If you can't afford them don't fucking spit them out!


That's exactly what I am saying.

I don't really understand why I do have pay additional taxes for each property I have and children are not only not taxed but in some cases even have tax benefits. It just doesn't make any sense. Rewarding irresponsibility...


They can afford 15% of their toys being sold off. You're right.




lol

Well, that would be a good way to slowly introduce them to what the rest of their lifes will be like Tongue
1317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 01:09:14 AM
I'm sure everybody in this thread has seen people struggle with even dumber shit. For some reason some people either don't have the right mindset to identify solutions to problems by themselves or they are inherently incapable of doing so.

However, you can certainly teach those people how to use a photocopier or a fax and basic programming is no more difficult while also in high demand.

People who drink bleach as an elixir have already solved all their problems. The remainder can use the internet, which is what I did. I have spent years scavenging the internet for dozens upon dozens of different paths. There's no wizardry going on here, literally pick a bunch of acceptable categories and a bunch of desirable ones then go from there.


You can't tell me that people are too stupid to Google "What jobs Y that involve X are there and what are the salaries?" and then follow up with "What paths to Y are there?". And I also don't believe that people who immediately fold are inherently incapable of following instructions until they commit them to memory.

Could perhaps we be taking for granted the privileged inner workings of our own minds, effortless as they are, and generously applying them to others where they do not exist?

In any case, I'm more than happy for them to continue doing what they're doing. More pie for the rest of us.

No, it's not good nor happy. If they really HAD to improve to survive, most of them would probably be able to do it. If you let them an easy path, many people will take it even if it is not the best long term for them. We are creating a dumb society where noone have to give the best of them to survive. So they don't do it.
1318  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 12:23:23 AM

gawd...this is one job that would bring ZERO benefit to our society.

Fuck, that's SOME salary there.
1319  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 12:12:31 AM

That's a pretty odd use of the term 'per capita'. Which, of course, is defined as 'per each person'. How can we have 3.54 Americans killed for every American that visits Pakistan?

Fucking savages!
1320  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 12:06:08 AM
Haven't really thought it through, but I'd certainly prefer that over uncapped benefits per child. A policy that is heavily exploited by certain groups of people and partially responsible for the anti-refugee rhetoric.

There was one family with two underage wives on public television proudly stating that they have no intention of ever working. All while receiving social welfare for each wive and child support for each kid. Of course people who paid 60% taxes their entire life and live around the poverty line will get pissed off at that, and rightfully so.

Yes. I may be sounding insensitive or non empathic... but it is when I think about those kind of people when I become that way. Too many groups of people FULLY AND COMPLETELY living off the rest, without working, and spending more than I do. It's completely crazy. Sometimes I think maybe I should become one of those. It really upsets me.
That family seemed genuinely nice although in that naive and incapable of grasping the consequences of their actions kind of way.


But they should not be supported and they are precisely why I am dead against any social welfare that isn't an unconditional UBI.

That much I can tolerate to level the playing field and disarm literally everybody who dares complain about wealth inequality. People go from 0 to Forbes 100 all the time and with a UBI nobody could even attempt to make a case for "exploitation" or any other types of "qq unfair".

But financially incentivizing the degeneration of humanity is just plain wrong. There's a reason why IQs in the West have been in decline. It's precisely because all responsibility is delegated to figures of authority with misaligned incentives.

The problem is that smarter people are capping their parenting to one or two children (or none) while the low IQs/irresponsible people do have on average more children even if they can't support them. So that's what next generations will be.....

Couple that with the advances in technology/optimisation of processes that will get rid of MANY current jobs that will become unnecesary/obsolete and you have a recipe for a perfect disaster.
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