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Für Profis, die Lagerhallen mit Minern füllen, bestimmt. Wenn es aber hart auf hart kommt (Wechselkurs in den Bereich der Stromkosten kommt), entscheiden nicht die Profis die Difficulty. Wo die abschalten, bleiben immernoch die ganzen Amateure, Hobbyisten und Miner, die aus Prinup minen, online. In deren Rechnung kommen keine Hallenmiete, Kühlkosten und Administration vor. Manchmal nicht mal die Stromkosten an sich, wenn das Studentenwohnheim oder Hotel Mama die zahlen.
Sicher, die Profis mögen einen größeren Anteil an der Gesamtrechenleistung haben, aber nicht alle Miner haben den gleichen Cutoff - wenn überhaupt.
Falls ich völlig falsch liege - ich bin kein Miner, und mein letzter Stand vom Mining ist von der Übergangszeit GPU zu ASIC. Damals zumindest war der Paradigmenwechsel, dass Stromkosten nahezu unbedeutend sind im Vergleich zu den Hardwarekosten.
Sollte sich das mittlerweile grundlegend geändert haben - mea culpa.
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Danke für die Zahlen!
Sollte es tatsächlich länger soweit runter gehen, wird es also an mehreren Fronten ungemütlich..
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We have, for example, several german charities in the list, which received the bitcoin-booster.
In general, it's very uncomplicated: convince a charity to accept bitcoin-donations. If they refuse, the initial donation kickstart from btc-100 might help convince them. If this happens, post in this thread, a few people will give the charity a closer look, and in 93.2% of the cases will send the donation quickly.
We have more funds than charities, so it's all pretty uncomplicated.
About the charity you mention, or any other which already accepts bitcoin donations:
btc-100 isn't simply a "we do good" club, but "we boost btc acceptance". As such, we only give out those donations to charities which explicitely set up bitcoin donations for the promise of this initial donation. If charities do or did it because they understood it's a good thing, without btc-100, even the better. More funds left for the tough cases ;-)
What you might have in mind is a central place to collect all charities which accept btc donations. Yes, this would be very helpful! If a few people help, I'll take the initiative on that.
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Hmm, ganz so direkt sehe ich das nicht, mit "Kurs" - "Difficulty" - "Miner schalten ab".
Vor allem, da seit ASICs die Stromkosten fast unwichtig geworden sind, in relation zu den Anschaffungskosten. Und sobald die Anschaffungskosten (unwiederbringlich) eingesetzt sind, sieht die Rechnung mit "lohnt sich der Miner noch?" ganz anders aus.
Da dauert es also bis zur jeweils nächsten ASIC-"Evolutionsstufe", dass weniger neue Hardware ans Netz geht. Die Diff steigt also trotzdem, nur weniger.
Interessant wird es, wenn der BTC-Kurs nicht mal mehr die Stromkosten deckt - aber da sind wir noch weit von entfernt?
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Is there a UK equivalent of Bitcoin 100 ?
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This is correct. My point is - decentralize all the things! :-) Ente |
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Also, it's nice to create a meatspace, offline, analog Bitcoin network :-)
Who knows what that could be useful for later on? On a completely unrelated note, Localbitcoin isn't available in Germany any more.
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..so creating 100 identical 1 BTC OCO orders is the way to go?
Both "cancel only when the full sum is reached" and "cancel when the order is partially filled" is worse than that. Best would be a checkbox "partially", "full" and "corresponding sum" I'd say.
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Hey people!
I didn't read through the last 100 or so pages, but plan to stay updated from now on again :-)
- Since ages, the two balance overviews are mismatched: the overview in the top right corner is fine, the overview in "manage wallets" is wrong.
- I just found out that the "transfer funds" window is borked: it uses the "european" style separators, and interprets "1,000.00" as "1" and "1.000,00" as "1000". Every single place on BitFinex does display and interpret it the "US" style.
Those two combined took me a good while to figure out why the heck I can't transfer the sums I plan to.
Please fix this.
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This has never happened to me...we will look into it. Let me know if I can be of help here. Ente |
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Thank you for the sum-up! So I didn't miss much on the last 100 pages? ;-)
I better not even start the months-old topics of:
- what exactly is the legal structure behind bitfinex?
- proof of solvency?
- loans fragment infinitely?
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S3052, I'm literally waiting on my computer, staring at the charts, waiting for an update from you!
(too tense for a smiley today)
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Hey people!
I didn't read through the last 100 or so pages, but plan to stay updated from now on again :-)
- Since ages, the two balance overviews are mismatched: the overview in the top right corner is fine, the overview in "manage wallets" is wrong.
- I just found out that the "transfer funds" window is borked: it uses the "european" style separators, and interprets "1,000.00" as "1" and "1.000,00" as "1000". Every single place on BitFinex does display and interpret it the "US" style.
Those two combined took me a good while to figure out why the heck I can't transfer the sums I plan to.
Please fix this.
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It will be difficult to prevent cheating, with insiders "donating" solely to receive the top-up from btc-100.
And I would prefer to have many people donate little, instead of the other way round.
But then our two ideas don't contradict each other. They'll coexist just fine, and both get more moneyz to charity and more bitcoins moving through the ecosystem :-)
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..their forecast price went from -813 USD to -796 USD.
I can't even decide if this is "up" or "down", good, bad, bullish or bearish!
Even better than their regular bitcoin forecast: they forecast the future price on BitStamp! It's pointing up like crazy, so they surely are both solvent and back online soon!
*giggle*
All right, enough fun at the expense of simplistic models..
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I just went through this thread and made a few more donations to recently posted organizations.
People, if you want to receive coin give us your address!! You want to make it easy for people to send you public cash. This is total no brainer stuff.
A few of the organizations piped me to a website, asked me to pledge an amount in some odd unit I'm not familiar with, and made me mash the keyboard on fields that said "email" .. "address".. etc.. and to make matters worse it doesn't even look like it is the organization receiving the money because I saw links from coinbase, cavirtex, bitpay, etc.. who knows what fraction of any of that coin will make it to the intended recipient. Many times I have started down that kind of path and stopped. We have better things to do with our time and if the recipient doesn't have a clue what they are doing, probably your coin is better spent elsewhere.
I want to send you funds. Why are you messing with web forms and third party limited liability corporations? This is dead simple stuff.
Just thought I would report my experience. Bitcoin 100 team and charities, keep up the good work!
Oh you are so right! I would like to donate more. Regularly, small amounts, to many many projects. For this, I need a simple list of bitcoin adresses. That's all. Every additional step is just in the way. How about a website which lists non-profit donation adresses? Name - Field of work - Website - BTC AddressTo make it manipulationproof, users could verify the entry and vote or flag, or the like. I would check for new entries from time to time, check on their website if the entry is legit, and, if I like their cause, donate. The thing about non-profits is that they need members (to have any influence) and a somewhat constant donation income they can calculate with. That 1000$ one-time donation is great, no question. I guess most would, however, prefer a 1$ donation every day for the next three years. And that's what I want to do. Send small donations to a huge list of charities on a regular basis. Monthly, weekly, whatever. But for this, I, we, need a very simple way to do this. And this starts with a trusted central place to collect donation addresses. Ente |
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And with all due respect, some other bitcoin forecasts go all the way towards being outright ridiculous. Probably the worst one is this one: http://www.bitcoinforecast.com/
It predicts -161 $ in March '15 and -813 $ in May '15.
-813 $ in May '15
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What exactly is the "Monthly Momentum Trades", which is not included in the "activepro" subscription?
I, personally, would like BTC only (no stock, no PM, no alts). With the "executive summary", graphs and trading examples.
Just as a datapoint of one of your subscribers :-)
Is there currently any "new year" discount or the like? ;-)
All that volatility makes me think about resubscribing.. :-)
Thank you for your service, and good success in 2015 too!
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Ente thanks for the questions and feedback. We'll get back to you latest Monday. edit: thank you for getting back to me fast. Ente |
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Ich denke die Gewinne werden (weiterhin) zusammenschmelzen, bis sich nur noch "dual use" miner lohnen, im Sinne von "Ich subventioniere meine Elektro-Heizkosten mit Mining".
Und dann, warum nicht, wenn der Markt groß genug ist? Samsung baut vermutlich auch Handtaschen-Ventilatoren (wie die anderen Koreanischen Mega-Konzerne auch), warum nicht auch Mining-Heizlüfter..
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What exactly is the "Monthly Momentum Trades", which is not included in the "activepro" subscription?
I, personally, would like BTC only (no stock, no PM, no alts). With the "executive summary", graphs and trading examples.
Just as a datapoint of one of your subscribers :-)
Is there currently any "new year" discount or the like? ;-)
All that volatility makes me think about resubscribing.. :-)
Thank you for your service, and good success in 2015 too!
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Thank you for keeping this threaad alive with info.
So far it all looks good for Trendon to finally end up in jail.
Hypothetically, if funds would show up to reimburse victims, who would receive some? Only people who are "registered" with Moustakis? How about people with a middleman in between, like Ian Grices payb.tc?
Ah, well, I'll be all happy if we finally see jail-time happening. And chances are good.
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