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341  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Major Flaw With Bitcoin?? on: September 30, 2013, 03:20:52 PM
Major Flaw with Bitcoin Economy: unsecured "banks" keep getting "hacked" into.
In what way ? Have you lost something from a bitcoin bank ?
342  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Major Flaw With Bitcoin?? on: September 30, 2013, 12:07:24 PM
Major Flaw with Bitcoin Forum Moderation: trollish threads keep popping up.
343  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin-Central, first exchange licensed to operate with a bank. This is HUGE on: September 30, 2013, 10:42:46 AM

Do you accept non-EU customers?
With its new Payment Institution partner, BC  can accept all residents of the 30-state European Economic Area:
Norway is missing from your list.  Switzerland is on your list, but not a member of the EEA.  Switzerland and Monaco are part of SEPA however, if that matters.
Thanks for pointing that out. I stand corrected and edited my post accordingly.
The list does not match exactly EEA because Monaco and Croatia are not in yet.
Here is the correct list of the 30 states:

 Austria
 Belgium
 Bulgaria
 Cyprus
 Czech Republic
 Denmark
 Estonia
 Finland
 France
 Germany
 Greece
 Hungary
 Ireland
 Iceland
 Italy
 Latvia
 Liechtenstein
 Lithuania
 Luxembourg
 Malta
 Netherlands
Norway
 Poland
 Portugal
 Romania
 Slovakia
 Slovenia
 Spain
 Sweden
 United Kingdom
344  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin-Central, first exchange licensed to operate with a bank. This is HUGE on: September 29, 2013, 10:17:57 AM

Do you accept non-EU customers?
With its new Payment Institution partner, BC  can accept all residents of the 30-state European Economic Area:

 Austria
 Belgium
 Bulgaria
 Cyprus
 Czech Republic
 Denmark
 Estonia
 Finland
 France
 Germany
 Greece
 Hungary
 Ireland
 Iceland
 Italy
 Latvia
 Liechtenstein
 Lithuania
 Luxembourg
 Malta
 Netherlands
Norway
 Poland
 Portugal
 Romania
 Slovakia
 Slovenia
 Spain
 Sweden
 United Kingdom

So its OK if you hold an Australian passport as long as you can provide a proof of residence in the EEA.
Note that the Payment Institution partner does not accept mobile telephony bills as proof of residence (only utility bills or fixed line telephone bill).

EDIT: Norway added, Switzerland removed from the list (for now).
345  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin-Central, first exchange licensed to operate with a bank. This is HUGE on: September 28, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
they are a market place and not an exchange which makes the main difference to Bitcoin-central.

http://www.techienews.co.uk/971487/bitcoin-central-exchange-reopens-after-6-months-hiatus/ - that is a reason to re-open the thread.

That's right. Bitcoin-central is a bitcoin exchange marketplace where funds (euros) are deposited to a regulated payment account while bitcoin.de is what is usually referred to as an OTC marketplace.
The main difference is that whenever a trade is executed on bitcoin-central, the fiat currency balance of the seller is credited immediately with the proceeds and the bitcoins are delivered to the buyer.
Conversely, with an OTC mecanism, both the buyer and the seller must wait for the buyer's fiat currency amount to reach the seller's bank account. Meanwhile the bitcoins of the OTC seller are tied up.
346  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin-central resumes operations on: September 27, 2013, 01:27:10 PM
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How do I withdraw Euros?

To withdraw bitcoins, visit the page "withdraw euros" under " account". Enter the amount you want to withdraw to your personal bank account. This is the bank account that you used to fund your account and specified during account registration.

Should be Euros
Thanks for pointing that out. Typo stands to be corrected very soon.
347  Local / Échanges / Re: Bitcoin-Central, discussion, questions-réponses on: September 27, 2013, 11:20:41 AM
J avais deja fourni mes justificatifs avant l interruption.
Pourquoi faut il les fournir de nouveau?
Surtout, il faut combien de temps pour la validation? Car les 24/48h sont largement dépassé pour moi.

Il y a un peu de rôdage à faire avec Lemon Way mais les validations de comptes sont en cours.
Ils doivent simplement vérifier les docs d'identité déjà fournis et les justificatifs de domicile qui commencent à arriver (ils n'étaient pas exigés auparavant).
Le délai de 24-48 h devrait être tenu après la mise en route.
348  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: OpenUDC on: September 27, 2013, 11:14:56 AM
Pour moi le revenu de base et, plus généralement, les nouveaux mécanismes de distribution de la richesse rendus nécessaires par la robotisation et la dissolution de la valeur travail qui en résultera, ne doivent pas être liés à un système monétaire particulier.

Sinon, on passerait d'une logique hégémonique (l'euro et la BCE) à une autre (openUDC): il faudrait adhérer à un tel système par la contrainte d'obtenir ou pas un revenu de base.
L'idée d'openUDC est donc une construction idéologique sans intérêt pratique.
Bitcoin est exactement l'inverse: une construction très pratique et efficiente qui oblige à reconstruire une théorie nouvelle de la "monnaie", faisant fi des schémas traditionnels post-féodaux.
349  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: Mycelium Bitcoin Wallet on: September 26, 2013, 06:13:59 PM

The best way to support us is to help us increase the user base, spread the word about the awesomeness of the Mycelium Wallet  Grin
I do : you guys did a great job over and beyond what you already did with bitcoinspinner. The UI simplicity is great. Don't get sidetracked with funky features (like tipping), keep them optionnal maybe.
350  Local / Échanges / Re: Bitcoin-Central, discussion, questions-réponses on: September 26, 2013, 09:45:23 AM

Encore une fois merci et bon retour à l'active !  Smiley

Fly
merci de votre patience ;0))

Le trading est maintenant possible depuis hier pour les comptes vérifiés.
Notre nouveau partenaire bancaire exige un justificatif de domicile car Bitcoin-central ne peut servir pour le moment que des clients dans l'Espace Economique Européen.
Les documents d'identité déjà fournis sont bien pris en compte mais la plupart des clients vérifiés l'ont été sur la seule base d'un document d'identité.
Donc il leur faut fournir maintenant un justificatif de domicile.
351  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: OpenUDC on: September 25, 2013, 04:12:51 PM
Bitcoin est fondé sur la méfiance entre les utilisateurs, personne ne doit rien à personne et nie l’individu, OpenUDC c'est le contraire et est fondé sur la confiance entre les utilisateurs du réseau et l’individu en est le centre.
C'est une caricature qui montre une mauvaise compréhension de bitcoin. Bitcoin s'appuie sur la cryptographie pour éliminer la nécessité de passer par un tiers de confiance.
Lorsque j'envoie de l'argent à mon fils qui est à l'étranger, je lui fais confiance et pourtant j'utilise bitcoin pour transacter directement avec lui sans passer par ma banque.

Si tu dois critiquer bitcoin pour défendre ton projet, c'est que ton projet à un problème.

OpenUDC n’utilise pas une stupidité de "proof of work" anti-écologique comme Bitcoin surtout quand on sait que la consommation électrique servant au minage pourrait alimenter plus de 30,000 foyers…

Tu as une idée de l'empreinte carbone des billets de banque qui se déplacent en camion blindés?
Ou de la consommation énergétique des fermes de serveurs chez Visa, Mastercard, etc qui enregistrent nos transactions à notre insu ?

De mon point de vue, OpenUDC est beaucoup plus pensé et réfléchi  que bitcoin.

C'est un jugement naif et infondé.
Bitcoin peut coexister avec n'importe quel système monétaire: une approche hégémoniste qui trient les monnaies entre les bonnes et les mauvaises me semble relever de la BCE plus que d'un projet de logiciel libre.
OpenUDC marie un système monétaire avec un système de distribution d'un revenu de base: c'est intéressant sur le plan théorique mais ce n'est pas une approche pragmatique.
Tenter de résoudre deux problèmes à la fois (le monopole de l'euro ET l'absence d'un revenu de base) s'est comme tenter le double saut périlleux avant de savoir marcher.
352  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitstamp WAS the best Bitcoin exchange, now it's not. on: September 25, 2013, 03:53:30 PM
Actually it's becoming bigger and bigger by the week.
Do you get paid by bitstamp to post stuff like that in RED or its just silly ?
353  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Central coming back on Monday - fiat to ALTS a possibility on: September 25, 2013, 03:48:14 PM
I still have GBP, EUR, and USD on their exchange. It's been 'stuck' there for months. I completed the withdraw request months ago.
It's back online now, I'd login and check it out if I were you. They wired me my money when they closed it down.
Yes. There is no pending transfer request in euro to my knowledge.
Bitcoin-central new banking partner might propose GBP payment accounts in the future but for now we will offer to return GBP or USD funds as bitcoins.
All customers residing in a non-EURO country will receive a bitcoin refund proposal in a couple of days. This is meant to speed up the process.
354  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Invoices/Payments/Receipts proposal discussion on: September 25, 2013, 10:30:41 AM
If a webshop using a deterministic wallet makes its master public key public (as it should), then a shopper's wallet app can verify that the payment address associated with her invoice belongs to the merchant's wallet.
E.g a merchant could publish its master public key on its web site and on social networks: a bitcoin wallet app could double check or triple check the master public key against the payment address before making any payment.
No need for a CA.
I dvelopped two apps to demonstrate this use case (those are RoR apps that I intend to open source when I fidn the time to do so):
the webshop is deployed on microbitcoin.net and the address verification app (still in beta) is on bitcoinrad.io.
You can try out bitcoinrad.io with your own electrum master public key and addresses.
The bitcoinrad.io type service should be duplicated so that multiple (decentralized) verification sources are available to merchants using deterministic wallets.
Multiple verification sources, possibly exposing a unified API, would greatly reduce the risks of a MITM attack.
355  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Electrum, inputs.io and bitcoind (.01 BTC REWARD) on: September 25, 2013, 10:16:14 AM
Any other bitcoin wallet other than bitcoind can generate unique bitcoin address through API and can do callbacks when funds arrive and confirm?
With an electrum wallet, your app needs only to know the master public key to generate addresses (no need for an API).

That's how the microbitcoin.net app I developped is working to generate a new address for each new invoice.
You need a watch only electrum wallet to get payment notifications but akaik an electrum API is still to be developped.
Anyhow, for a webshop, checking the electrum wallet from time to time is sufficient at this point.
If your project entails withrawals in bitcoins, you may want to consider imposing a lead time and checking the withdraws manually or via an audit node.
Maintaining a hot wallet for instant withdraws is a risky business unless you are ready to spend on infrastructure.
356  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: September 25, 2013, 09:16:37 AM
One would also hope that the company in question will at least have the decency to use the bitcoins amassed from this operation on some sort of charity.
Thanks for the decency lesson: I am learning something every day.. Just so you know, no company has "amassed" any bitcoin in this "operation" since the bitcoins are owned by the wallet holders and by the hacker. The fact that you did not file a claim in a reasonable due time does not in any way validate your suspicion because in the meantime all those who did file a claim and gave us discharge by approving their payouts got their refund.
357  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: September 25, 2013, 08:57:24 AM
The "We're sorry, but something went wrong." error message pops up for all unclaimed wallets. The 404 error message is displayed for a non-existent wallet url. We are not going to alter the code to display more explicit message as we need to move on. Late claims belong in the unclaimed wallet category.
358  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: September 24, 2013, 01:29:39 PM
"something went wrong."
We are looking at this issue right now.
359  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: September 23, 2013, 10:51:27 AM
Boussac all my instawallet account had was 5 bitcoins and I still haven't received them yet. I went through your whole claims process and everything. I just want to know where's is my Bitcoins. Please contact me I need a response. I just sent you a email with my claim #.
PM response sent.

Yes I did, and my instawallet page is no longer accessible.

Have you tried typing https://www.instawallet/w/walletkey (paste your actual walletkey) ?

Since the site certificate has expired, that could cause the problem you are mentionning.
360  Local / Produits et services / Re: Avoir des piéces bitcoin on: September 23, 2013, 08:46:29 AM
Est-ce que quelqu'un pourrait m'informer sur ces pièces ? Comment ça marche, elles valent quelque chose (autre que le prix du métal) ? Un compte Bitcoin ?
sardokan a déjà dit l'essentiel mais pour voir les photos il y a aussi microbitcoin.fr
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