It's funny how no one really thinks that no people are doing that, and there is really just that much activity on this forum... it's good though that campaigns are starting to become a lot more strict on people enrolling in campaigns and track their activity from a while back to make sure it isn't a pretty shit account.

At least if people are doing that, then it's a lot harder to get away with it than just by posting "+1" and "to da moon!".  Regardless, signatures still aren't worth wasting every single minute of your day on... it's a shame that probably a lot of people on here do end up doing that and become recluses to their families and loved ones.  I see threads pop up every now and then having people explain "how bad" gambling is and all that, because you "waste a whole day" on a site and "lose money... when in all reality they are wasting a full day on here trying to get their activity up and post as much as possible for fractions of bitcoins, and also end up losing out on money they would have made if they just got a regular job and then put that money into bitcoins instead.

I know it sounds like I'm a hypocrite that I'm in a campaign too, but I know where to draw the line in not becoming too obsessed over post count and getting as much bitcoins as possible to "becomez'a millionerrz"... instead I just focus on my career and frequent the board to get my daily news for cryptocurrencies (which getting back to the point of the thread) is what I think these kids should do.  Tell them to go get a STEM degree, whatever that may be, and then do what they love... don't force them into bitcoins by any means, that's just flat out annoying.

I think this would not only just be exciting, but yet a huge success of revolutionizing the shadiness of elections.  Also, from what I gathered from the article was that they are doing the "old fashioned" method of using paper ballots, but also scanning and uploading the results on florincoin and also, I guess, "test" if it's possible to hash out the results on a private bitcoin blockchain?

Dude, honestly... you are suggesting your kids to waste hours upon hours of their time solving captchas for fractions of a penny??  That is literally the opposite of what you should be suggesting. 

You should tell them to earn money in a way that normal kids make money... do chores, offer to wash cars in the neighborhood, go open a lemonade stand, babysit, the list goes on.  It teaches them the value of money/bitcoin, and also encourages them to develop social skills which will definitely be needed in the future.  They aren't going to learn OR earn anything by sitting on a computer all day doing mundane work like solving captchas or pressing a faucet button... Even recommending signatures to them are a little silly tbh... I know I have a signature as well, but this forum is supposed to be for browsing during downtime.. not be a source of income.

Interesting...

But I don't see where this "florincoin" comes into play... I'm just assuming it's a fork of the normal Bitcoin blockchain?  I just briefly skimmed the article and it didn't seem to address the issue of who is going to be putting in the resources to do the hashing... that will honestly be the biggest concern of voter fraud if there are only a few people/government doing the hashing. 

I guess it's hard for me to imagine creating an incentive for a lot of people to put energy and time into hashing something that doesn't hold monetary value... I guess I just look at this kind of thing more realistically.  It's a great concept though nontheless if it does end up working out.

I wish I can find people around where I'm from to buy Bitcoins from... I've tried to use localbitcoin, but sellers are so far away from where I'm located that it's impossible to set up a transaction, not to mention that Bitcoin ATM's are even farther away.  AND I'm from the US, which is pretty sad to say lol... think it's time to move to a bigger city

Well, I mean in terms of "bank" coins, probably not.  Big banks are thriving on what the Central Banks are doing; so I don't think  they are going to propose a system that resembles "the gold standard" any time soon... I mean c'mon, charging interest to people through credit which is based on a system made out of literally nothing?  I think the big banks would prefer that system which forces people to come to them for their "services" to profit on, rather than handing over a system that allows people to become their own banks.

Plus I would be highly surprised if they would/could start hiring tech experts to do such things... I know a couple of people in the banking world, and they are far from tech experts and could care less about people in general.

Though you've got a point with this, you have to realize that people don't have money/fiat until the work for it.  So why not cut out the middle man of acquiring fiat to pay for paper that represents literally nothing besides "trust" in the governments economy (because that's all that fiat represents).  Let's instead replace fiat with bitcoins and then have it backed by Gold, just like how money used to be.  That way, you can have the benefits of the gold standard and] be able to send it anywhere with just a click of a button and for cents per transaction?  I'd rather pay that than deal with banks/interest/inflation any day any time.

I'm not going to sit here and go on about altcoins, but I think a few of them (with one in particular) solve big problems with what's going on with Bitcoin and the scalability issue.  I like seeing what other coins have to offer (most of them are complete junk), but out of all of them I believe that having a dynamic block size proposed by the monero cryptonote whitepaper offers a proposal that could solve a lot of these issues... most obviously the scalability issue, but as well as fungibility and with Ring CT coming along complete obfuscation and anonymity on the blockchain.  Not only that, I think that governments will learn to love it because of the view key function which allows auditors to track business transactions for taxing purposes in the future.  There will be a lot of push back at first obviously, but I feel that this relates to what you are talking about.

The thing is, is that ideas that people have are hard to change.  So when it comes to bitcoin maximalists deciding to change over to something that is not bitcoin is going to be an all out brawl, philosophically speaking... I mean look at the block size debates.   

Ok I will when I get back home in about two hours or so, kinda hard to copy and paste code on mobile. Thanks again.

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Honestly, it doesn't even matter what I say to my family/friends what, or how I think Bitcoin will become a major success.  How they see things is that you have to have something physical in your hand for it to be "valuable".  Also, my family tends to really frown upon me wanting to use a "one world" currency, because they believe its a sign of the rapture happening (family is very religious).

Any who, I tend to just end the argument to "agree to disagree" and move on.  They know how I feel about being liberated from the confines of central banks, and while they generally agree with me when I put it in perspective for them they just generally don't care or are scared that God will smite them (and me) for using "cryptotokens".

You can't just have an "unreliable" internet, I wouldn't think.  If people go to use Tor instead of "regular" internet, it depends on how many nodes people are running; this will be especially necessary if there was something like a "internet meltdown" situation.

But if this apocalyptic scenario where to ever play out, are you really going to be sitting around and worrying if your bitcoin stash is still valuable or not?  Hell no, you are going to be worrying about survival of not only your self, but humans in general.  Better yet, you better be hoping that your nation isn't going to force you into the army or something through a draft...

Just curious... what are the lealana brass dimes going for now and days? Both buyer funded and already funded coins?

I mean in theory this would be correct... but a lot of factors are at play now than what was happening back in 2012.  There was no arguments about block sizes, fungibility concerns, decisions to hard fork to this or that, Silk Road was still on the rise, etc. etc. ... Probably in all reality there will be a couple of speculative pumps here and there, but nothing to the degree of what's being insinuated on these graphs.

For one thing, there still has to be a continuous flow of "fresh money" that hasn't already entered the crypto-sphere yet.  Maybe if Wall St officially picks up Bitcoin for trading, there will be that fresh flow of new money to come into play. Who knows...

Plus, there is always the possibility of big time miners being forced to shut down.  There isn't anything guaranteed for these guys in terms of price increases. Since they are running these miners for profit, they can always be forced to shut down if the price doesn't rise quickly enough in order to pay bills for the electricity and hardware costs.

And when Bitcoin spiked to $1000+, was that normal? The fact of the matter is that while Bitcoin is the oldest and first crypto to become a major player in the financial world, doesn't mean that it's not still in its infancy. Bitcoin has the highest market cap just because it was the first... Doesn't mean that another digital currency can deem itself worthy to surpass Bitcoin due to better functionality.

Well, in ETH's defense... they are trying to do something completely different than what bitcoin is still trying to become, which is a way to transact money on a public ledger.  So I don't really see how Bitcoin should feel "threatened" that people are moving their money towards this project.

On top of that there are other alt coins that do something completely different compared to Bitcoin as well, like the coins that include cryptonote in their code base.

So even though putting money into these kind of coins could be called "gambling" in a sense; there is no real correlation between these coins at all...  It's not like someone copied Bitcoins code and put some goofy/clever name on it to influence people to pump the shit out of it to earn a couple extra satoshi's... these altcoins actually are trying to solve something that Bitcoin can't.

Start cashing into Bitcoin because why?  I just don't see why people would want to invest into something like ETH except wanting to support a decentralized "internet", rather than investing in cumulating an actual currency.

Why are you posting this on the Bitcoin section of the forum when you could have easily just posted this on the Altcoin section, besides just to spread FUD to people to invest in your coin of choice?  Oh, that's right, that's all you want to do.

I think what he is trying to say, is that maybe you need to figure out what country fits your needs of hosting a gambling website without any licensing (I have no idea), and then see what VPN's are available in those countries that you could pay them to host your site.

I feel like this is the best way to go about things, but could be wrong.

Exactly... when I start saving up for my "future kids" school tuitions, I am basically planning on buying gold to hold my store of value over the 18 years or so I start saving, to protect me against inflation and the devaluation of the USD over the years.  I find this a lot more reliable than trying to put fiat money into some savings bank account that will gradually devalue over the years.  Gold keeps up with the times in terms of fiat and commands a higher price when fiat is devalued.