Smooth QC secondary stock offeringAssets
100m M
3-W-C3 - Office Building, Rentals - 800 sqm lot, 744 sqm Office, 330 sqm Backyard Residential - (maybe 300m)
1 MIR (2-4m, according to HM)
325 SCI (bid 170k = 55.25m)
18 W1603A (bid 251k = 4.5m)
180 CUL (30m+, according to HM)
1 RM1600B (bid 100k)
Total = 492m
Liabilities and Equity
500 common shares outstanding
Book value = 984k/share
I've updated the financials a bit with some better estimates of asset values show above, resulting in a book value estimate of 0.984m/share. The current auction bids are still just 0.5m/share so this seems like a very attractive deal, independent of the new brewery opportunities. Current bids ( to bid or see real time bids, visit Agora Marketplace in-game) 300x880k noms 50x875k Zecheriah 100x851k Crichton 100x850k Soul 10x801k Roopatra 100x800k Zechariah 27x753k Cryptonic 150x752k Crichton 150x751k smooth 100x750k Soul 27x706k Cryptonic 150x705k smooth 35x701k Mooo 20x701k Roopatra 85x700.5k goin2mars 25x700k MoneroHouse ------ Winning bids above this line 125x700k MoneroHouse 100x700k SIF 100x650k Soul 14x602k Cryptonic 27x601k Cryptonic 100x600k SIF 100x550k luigi 50x525k kronicblazer 12x521k Cryptonic 20x511k Roopatra 20x508k Cryptonic 20x502k Skysy 500x500k noms 5x500k Angus Total bids: 2622 shares Result if auction ended: 1429 shares sold at 700k, raising 1000.3m This will be the last forum update before the bidding closes at 21:00:00 UTC, approximately 12 hours from now. Real time bidding is visible in-game. Operations will commence immediately upon closing of the auction, as we have already agreed to purchase a suitable facility. As there will be no shortage of working capital, our initial dividend policy will be to distribute all operating profit from the sale of the beer. This may be revised as conditions dictate. Bidding will remain open until 2015-12-12, 21:00:00 UTC |
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i HAD heard of Bytecoin many years earlier. What you heard of was probably the original Bitcoin-clone Bytecoin (BTE), not BCN. Different coin. |
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COMMUNITY PROPOSAL FOR RESURRECTING QUAZARCOINIf anyone else is interested in resurrecting this coin please follow the instructions bellow and start solo-mining, with enough hashrate QCN will fork and will be on pair with Bytecoin latest code but with a much better emission curve, coin re-branding and exchange listing could follow.Hello, I added support for QuazarCoin in Forknote. It will give you a daemon and simplewallet with equivalent version of Bytecoin 1.0.5.1. To use it, download the Forknote binaries or compile them. More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1079306.0Download the configuration file for QuazarCoin and save it in the 'configs' folder of Forknote: https://github.com/forknote/configs/blob/master/quazarcoin.confDaemon start: forknoted.exe --config-file configs\quazarcoin.conf ./forknoted --config-file configs/quazarcoin.conf Simplewallet start: simplewallet.exe --config-file configs\quazarcoin.conf ./simplewallet --config-file configs/quazarcoin.conf How to transfer your old wallet? Copy your .keys file to the Forknote folder. Open it with simplewallet. If anyone with a pool want to get behind the idea we can all mine together until the fork happens. You don't need forknote to mine (and apparently it is not compatible either; a hard fork is needed to switch). The original code still works fine. It may have unpatched vulnerabilities though, I haven't reviewed it so I don't know. Switching to forknote is one possible direction. It means not having differentiated software with its own development (of course that is not happening anyway ATM) and being a Bytecoin clone with different parameters. I'll leave that to the community to decide, if there is one. |
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Hmm..looks like someone got to Peter! What a totally believable reversal of opinion! BTW I know you guys are not above hacking the accounts of trusted characters in the crypto-space. Remember the pro-Scamero Antonopoulos quote that he later denied, sayng that his account had been compromised? Checkmate.
 Ad hominem attacks are only used by people not wanting to answer difficult questions imo. It's called deflection. But attacking-the-attacker is standard Monero goon-squad tactics, guys..you aren't fooling anyone. Scamero  lol the level of stupid in this thread from the dash supporters is EPIC! It's like all the stupid people gravitate towards DASH.  BTW he answered your question and addressed the issue you brought to the table but as always in CLASSIC DASHTARD RHETORIC you overlook the answer because it doesn't suit your agenda.  Nope. I just don't trust the posts of someone who is known to have participated in co-ordinated FUD attacks by people known to be Monero shills, on what they think are their competitor coins. I have also witnessed you saying you were going to fund a "competitor" of DASH (DSH-Dashcoin) to the tune of 200 (!) XMR! Such underhand tactics and you are also a cheapskate, sir! Thank you for the reminder. It's been a while since I donated to our cryptonote cousins over at The Real Dashcoin, but I'll be sure to make another donation soon, "in honor of volyova" |
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I am honestly surprised by the number of people who are opposed to doing anything to reduce the impact of future big digs.
Kinda restores your faith in humanity, don't it? geeks are philosophical purists, until they're not. It isn't philosophical purity necessarily, it is possible to reach the same conclusion on the basis of pragmatism about what it takes to succeed. When considering an artificial digital asset that is backed by nothing, reasonable people can disagree about how important stability of parameters and confidence (and confidence in stability of parameters) are to maintaining and growing long term value. |
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Hmm..looks like someone got to Peter! What a totally believable reversal of opinion! BTW I know you guys are not above hacking the accounts of trusted characters in the crypto-space. Remember the pro-Scamero Antonopoulos quote that he later denied, sayng that his account had been compromised? Checkmate.
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That tweet is >1 year old. His opinion has changed since. Very reasonable thing for an intelligent person to do. Maybe we should give his 2015 tweets a little more weight than his 2014 tweets.  |
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Don't lie. Everyone knows that NO development of any consequence has happened with Monero for a very long time.
The only one lying here is you. "Everybody" in your quote must refer to people who are unable to use github.  which consists of pages and pages of commits by 32 contributors. See for yourself: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commits/masterQuantity does not imply QUALITY dumbarse. Yes and I bet YOU are more qualified to judge the quality NOW than Peter Todd, etc. (who thinks it is "genuine crypto" and something his should buy some of). ROFL. Yes, and Peter Todd said that the quality was "awful", and "atrociously bad". Maybe you should get a proper review? But that will never happen, will it? QED He said that previously without even looking at the code, just based on one small section (since rewritten) that was posted by someone else. Later, in addition to backing away from his comments, after learning more, he said that it is "genuine crypto" and something he should buy. Changing ones opinion after learning more is something intelligent people do. You might try it. |
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Good question about yin-yang. I don't know the symbolic significance to AOEN really. To me it seemed more like a cool reference to the natural balance of complementary forces than pandering to China.
Now that I'm writing about it though, there is a sort of yin-yang relationship between mining and currency in satoshi's proof-of-work design, which AEON includes.
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Don't lie. Everyone knows that NO development of any consequence has happened with Monero for a very long time.
The only one lying here is you. "Everybody" in your quote must refer to people who are unable to use github. which consists of pages and pages of commits by 32 contributors. See for yourself: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commits/masterQuantity does not imply QUALITY dumbarse. Yes and I bet YOU are more qualified to judge the quality NOW than Peter Todd, etc. (who thinks it is "genuine crypto" and something his should buy some of). ROFL. |
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Don't lie. Everyone knows that NO development of any consequence has happened with Monero for a very long time.
The only one lying here is you. "Everybody" in your quote must refer to people who are unable to use github. which consists of pages and pages of commits by 32 contributors. See for yourself: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commits/master |
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Peter Todd's first Twitter post has been removed and all that is left is something less frank and open about his true views. Guess if you are being paid you should try not to say your clients crap is 'crap'. https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/507427225927708672I'm out of this shit. Far too much manipulation going on. It stinks to high heaven. Monero :-/ Since you are quoting a 15 month post I suppose this has already been addressed, but Peter Todd was not paid by Monero. We were talking to him about doing some review and perhaps other work but he decided against it because he wanted to stick to working on Bitcoin forks, as he explained here: There was no "manipulation", he just changed his opinion as he learned more. It means it would be so extensively modified to be almost unrecognizable by the time you were done.
Monero was just not a good fit for the type of work Peter wanted to do, which was to focus on working on coins that all use the same code base so his existing knowledge of the code would be valuable and provide synergies for him between projects. That's exactly what he told us.
+1 Each project you get yourself involved with is a significant mental overhead, especially when what the codebase is doing is similar, but not 100% identical, to other codebases you work on. Even on Bitcoin itself I specialize on one specific aspect of it, the consensus critical code, and within that, the scripting system. On the topic of the small amount of "C code", he said this: I removed it because I meant to say "much of" - the Tweet as originally written gave the inaccurate impression that Cryptonote is written exclusively in C, which just isn't true. I removed it pretty quickly, within about an hour.
In fact the only part that is written in C are the crypto libraries, most of which probably came from other projects (though much the history is not visible to us). Yup, which is a pretty serious problem because you need to be able to audit that those libraries were actually copied over correctly, are up to date, and actually do what they claim to do; sounds like there's even real reasons to suspect that the codebase may even have backdoors and other flaws deliberately added by the original CN team, let alone more prosaic flaws. While Bitcoin's use of OpenSSL had it's own set of problems, it did ensure that the huge C codebase of OpenSSL was at least the same huge C codebase everyone else used, flaws and all. But again to be clear, like I've said elsewhere, these are all fixable problems and the Monero team is working on fixing them. Which is exactly what has been done since. The unclear code was completely written and extensively commented (so much so that it regularly gets praise now from people who look at it work with it) and the code that was a copy of an external library (djb's crypto) was replaced with the actual library itself. |
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stuff like this does not help, most of us are deep in the red. average below 0.001? maybe for small fishes.. ALL big holders are down. look how warz was crying in polo chat the last few days. many got themselfs more than just one blue eye. or ask risto how many euros he is down, 100K? 200k?500k? better be carefull what you wish for, we only need one whale to capitulate and you will see prices very fast below 0.0005 I'm not sure abut Euros, but in USD Monero is doing just fine. Current price 44c. Remember this troll thread from almost a year ago??? Monero under 25 cents? What the hell are you waiting for? |
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Also it seems that "smooth" (according to my researches) is the most prolific forum poster ever! How in the hell does he have time to be the (so-called) lead dev?? I'll tell you why...because there is nobody involved with Monero who is capable of developing Monero. This is the conclusion I have reached (according to my researches).
When a coin developer waists all his time in spamming his competitors this coin will never be respected. Non-stop falling of XMR against BTC and USD shows pretty good where XMR goes. This poll demonstrates very well the reputation of smooth: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151565.0Obviously a lot of your post is opinion, to which you are entitled. But not the part about "non-stop falling" against USD. That is wrong. The current 44c price is in line with where it has been quite often over the past year or longer, and it has certainly been lower (as low as half that, if not lower). Also, to correct volyova, I'm not a "the lead dev", we have no such title. EDIT: For example, troll thread from last year: Monero under 25 cents? What the hell are you waiting for? For the math challenged that is a 76% increase. |
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Not sure about any of the numbers above, but 32.9 mHash/s (assuming the m stands for M) is higher than the total net hash (last I looked, 11 MH/s, might have moved now)...
Speaking of that, I always wondered whether CryptoNote coins hashrate is any accurate. Monero's one jumps up and down from 7 mHash/s to 15 mHash/s within 24 hours (based on ChainRadar). Obviously, hashrate is calculated as difficulty / block_time. And difficulty here is the number of hashes roughly required to find the last block. Isn't it better to evaluate CN hashrates not with this simple formula, but rather include a series based calculation? Difficulty is calculated over a window of 720 blocks, so that already takes into account some period of time (12 hours). In reality it seems that the hash rate really does fluctuate a lot, even if the estimate is necessarily imperfect. This probably has something to do with time-of-day as it always seems to have been synchronized to a 24 hour cycle even on coins with slightly different parameters. Maybe computers that are idle at night in some geographic area and being used to mine, lower off-peak power costs, etc. I don't think it is possible to really know for sure. I know about 720-block window. And it should also cut outliers, in theory. Maybe 720 blocks is not enough? It indeed looks like there's 24 hour cycle, but I don't believe that it's due to certain PCs being idle (well, unless botnets again?). It can't constitute 50% of the network? And how does one even assess mining profitability if it fluctuates by the factor of two on a daily basis? Well when the block time changes to 2 minutes, it will then be 24 hours, since we didn't change the 720 block window. That will be back to the original parameters as designed by Cryptonote/Bytecoin. Perhaps the behavior will be different then. We also have some research ongoing for better ways to adjust difficulty. |
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This might sound like a stupid question but is it still possible to dig clams? Like is there still CLAMS out there to be found? Also if so how would one go about finding them?
Over 14 million still available give or take If you controlled BTC, LTC or DOGE in May of last year, you can 'claim' by: 1. Download the client 2. Click File->Import wallet 3. Browse to your BTC, LTC or DOGE wallet.dat file. 4. Let the chain sync past block ~10,000 Recommended to make sure the wallet is (now) empty before doing this. |
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Not sure about any of the numbers above, but 32.9 mHash/s (assuming the m stands for M) is higher than the total net hash (last I looked, 11 MH/s, might have moved now)...
Speaking of that, I always wondered whether CryptoNote coins hashrate is any accurate. Monero's one jumps up and down from 7 mHash/s to 15 mHash/s within 24 hours (based on ChainRadar). Obviously, hashrate is calculated as difficulty / block_time. And difficulty here is the number of hashes roughly required to find the last block. Isn't it better to evaluate CN hashrates not with this simple formula, but rather include a series based calculation? Difficulty is calculated over a window of 720 blocks, so that already takes into account some period of time (12 hours). In reality it seems that the hash rate really does fluctuate a lot, even if the estimate is necessarily imperfect. This probably has something to do with time-of-day as it always seems to have been synchronized to a 24 hour cycle even on coins with slightly different parameters. Maybe computers that are idle at night in some geographic area and being used to mine, lower off-peak power costs, etc. I don't think it is possible to really know for sure. |
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Probably a benchmark using an old Bitcoin CPU miner. Useless except to compare CPUs with each other.
so it is not profitable anymore this server price is 159 USD per month It is not profitable to mine Monero on rented servers afaik. It is occasionally profitable to mine some coin or another on rented servers, but you have to evaluate opportunities carefully. |
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