Have you or have you not received free gifts from GAW?

I think the term they are looking for is "suppressive persons"

It doesn't really make sense to use the term negative ROI unless you mean (total earnings-total invested)/total invested.

Either way, I don't think GAW deserves a free pass just because everything they say is ambiguously worded.


IMO they should have to prove what they are claiming to have.

Anyways I'll leave it at that. Like you said, it's sort of pointless now that most people have switched to hashpoints/hashstakers and the rest are being paid such small returns that they likely have enough hardware to cover it.

I see your point for the "always remain profitable" but I don't see how "incapable of negative ROI" is not guaranteeing profit.

Paying 1 satoshi per day might let them get away with claiming "always profitable" but that doesn't make the ROI positive.


If those claims are correct then GAW is likely the single largest entity in all crypto mining.

Because of that, I don't see how pics showing around a hundred TH/s worth of hardware are relevant.

Few quotes I could find:


I'm sure I could find many more but they are lost in their unsearchable forum. (Josh also tends to backtrack/erase many of the false advertisements hence the obsessive archiving in the GAW thread)


I extrapolated the 40PH/s based on this claim that they mined 28k in 2 months. (and that's just one of the several mining addresses)


As for actual sales, you will never find them but here's their totally believable claim:

Just because the exchange rate dropped doesn't mean bitcoin isn't doing well. Look at how much the ecosystem has evolved in the past 6 months. Microsoft, Newegg, Dell, etc now all accept bitcoin and the Winklevii trust fund is about to launch.

Bitcoin can absorb millions of dollars worth of dumping and the price will drop a few percent.

Paycoin cannot even absorb 100 bitcoins worth of dumping without the price dropping to satoshis.

You're missing an 8 for gawminers. (guaranteed profit)

Also can you share which relevant pictures of GAW's datacenter you've seen? I've seen what amounts to a few % of the total hashrate they claim to have. (they were claiming 40+ PH/s last month)

It depends on your settings/fan.

If it's overclocked (1600+ gh/s) you will need to use the stock fan at 80%+ which was just barely audible through the wall.

If you have it underclocked you can lower the fan speed which should help a bit. (well I couldn't because I'm cursed with fans but you should be able to).

Even better would be underclocking and replacing the fan which made my miner nearly silent. I can now work in my garage for hours without being bothered and/or wearing earmuffs.

Although replacing the fan is likely only an option when you're underclocking because I doubt you'll find a quieter 30W fan.

BS-to-English Translation:

Honestly haven't been following ripple but their market cap is also obviously BS with such low volume and liquidity.

Maintenance fee is $1.551/TH/day and earnings are based on theoretical yield so I just use bitcoinwisdom to figure out revenue.

1.551/3.9 = 0.397

I think I accidentally used $1.511/TH/day which is why i was off by 1%.

Now on cryptsy only 25 BTC worth of bids to be filled before the price hit's 1 satoshi.

Amazing liquidity.

The announcement is that they decided to scrap the single feature which gave paycoin value. (the $20 floor)

Maintenance fee for amhash is currently 39%.

This is starting to get sad.

Only 55 BTC worth of xpy needs to be dumped before the price hits 1 satoshi on cryptsy.

Considering all cashtakers are unprofitable at $12/coin, I would assume they don't need any money.

So how much were you guys paid to add paycoin's obviously fake market cap?

It also wasn't built by incompetent fools who stumble every step they take.

I assure you I am fully capable of copy/pasting peercoin and making a featureless/broken exchange.

I could also use enough manipulative marketing techniques and false advertising to make my shitcoin a success but unfortunately I have a conscience.

And with more fees than any other exchange! Another world record of GAW's.