I will believe that when all western countries (including US) are already on lockdown. Then it will probably be up from there.

I do fear the reaction of american people when they get ordered to lockdown and many american business being temporarily shut down.

Interesting times indeed.

Centuries to come and the history books will tell about the 2020 Worldwide Toilet Paper Crisis. No mention of the virus though.

Yes, and no. I mean, you can take a lot of preventive measures but unless the rest of the population follows, your job is ruined in the end. I have been extremely and gladly surprised how well the people have taken and is following the measures now.

But, before the government started announcing the serious measures many people were not taking it seriously either: ie. Many (not all!) people from Madrid going out to the south beaches instead of staying at home as if this were a fucking holidays.

It has been necessary to step up and order a nationwide lockdown and close every leisure business (and even the beaches) everywhere so now there's no point in going anywhere else than staying at home.

Now everyone will stay at their homes in the hope that things get under control asap and maybe there won't be needed an extension of the full lockdown after this 15 days pass.

If this was more than really needed... well, at least it would have been a GREAT massive emergency drill that might come handy the next time the shit really hits the fan.

To be honest, I would have never thought the people would react so well to this massive amount of behaviour change... more so when this is not some directly perceivable menace. I am stunned. Interesting times.

Looks like everyone is starting to take this shit seriously. Except maybe UK... I donno if it is because they are doing good or ignoring the problem.

Spain enters official nationwide lockdown.

Or mixed with glycerin.

Or just use the alcohol straight. No, wait... are we talking about cleaning the hands or cleaning the asshole? The distinction is important in this case.

Late 80's or very early 90's probably. Almost no false positives and good detection rate. Mostly accurate.

Here we have basically gone from zero to 10 during the past few days. Even if where I live we are not really at lockdown the streets look empty, people is staying at home (as recommended).

There have been some procedures implemented at supermarkets, like giving you a pair of gloves when you enter that you need to use to avoid touching anything with your bare hands, security distance between people on queues, etc...

The profilactic measures are generally being taken very seriously and people is mostly very conscious and responsible (which is something that has surprised me A LOT!).

If there weren't a complete lack of masks supply I am sure almost everyone would be wearing it.

Really, it is surprising how well the people is adapting to this situation. I am stunned.

Of course the economic loses will be *HUUUUUUUUGE*. But life will go on.

After this flu drill, I have confidence that we are ready for a zombie apocalypse!

P.S.: Only thing is that with everyone being at home, some internet providers are experiencing some minor disruptions... If it escalated they have orders to filter out video streaming (unicast - mostly netflix, hbo and the like) services.

That's the attitude. Mistakes do happen but in the long run they are experiences and life goes on. Glad to see you back and with a new perspective.

This is exactly what I meant... explained in better words and proper notation.

I didn't expect something that simple would cause that much arguing, more so when the differences between BTC and USD are clear and we all agree on that... but that is a completely different thing that has nothing to do with the fact that both are equal to themselves... as absolutely everything is (equal to itself).

Anyways, "1 BTC = 1 BTC" is a strictly true statement and many people will keep using and giving it whatever meaning they want. This is fine.

Yes, I do agree with your comparison between BTC and USD. That's why I do like BTC.

But still...

1 USD (with its inherent shitty features, like unpredictable emission rate, risk of being turned into completely useless paper and whatever you want to add here) = 1 USD (with its inherent shitty features, like unpredictable emission rate, risk of being turned into completely useless paper and whatever you want to add here)

It's just an equal sign with both *IDENTICAL* values at each side of the equal sign. That shouldn't be debatable.

Like "cmqñljer=cmqñljer" where I don't know what "cmqñljer" really is, nor its characteristics, nor I do really care... but I can safely say that 1cmqñljer = 1 cmqñljer.

But... If I wanted to really explain its advantages I would focus on them instead of just saying that 1cmqñljer = 1 cmqñljer which I don't think is a very good argument to convince anyone. And the same applies to 1BTC = 1BTC.

Anyways, people will keep repeating it at each and every dump as some sort of miraculous Vodoo. I know. I will just have to live with it as I have done all this years

Some of those points are strictly true and some are arguable. Anyways, no matter how many differences you can enumerate between USD and BTC... those are all inherent characteristics of each USD and BTC. And considering all those differential characteristics still 1 USD = 1 USD and 1 BTC = 1 BTC.

Unless you are comparing 1 USD that is not really a USD (with its inherent government controlled inflation) and a different USD (like, I donno, one that is completely different?). But that would the same than comparing one Bitcoin (BTC) to one Bitcoin (Bcash lol). They are different things, so the equal thing is not really valid even if some people might try to argue they are.

Anyways none of this really matter...

As a maths guy, can you say 1BTC = 1BTC and, at the same time and for similar reasons, say that 1 USD != 1 USD?

And... even if you can (wtf?) do you really think that is a good moto to use to show the differential advantages of BTC? I think it is a completely ridiculous one. Btw, 1BSV = 1BSV too.

It is 120 for me but maybe they changed the conventions about the order of the operations or it is different depending on the country or it is using a different base?

But yeah, I get your point... even an equal sign (as in 1BTC=1BTC) might mean whatever someone wants it to mean... even if according to their very own "rules".

Wrong. You are talking about relative value here. If so, then 1BTC != 1BTC too.

And that not even considering forks and some other shit........

I do understand what they think they mean... it is just that it is nonsense.

You now say 1 USD = 1 USD (because that's not arguable) but also say, as if it was a differential advantage of BTC, that the "true value" of USD has been going down. Great... because that's exactly what I mean when also BTC "true" value has come down... as in past days dump. In both cases, it doesn't mean anything if 1USD=1USD or 1BTC=1BTC. Also, something that obvious (it's a fucking equal not even a function) doesn't need to be repeated as if it were gonna change anytime soon. It won't. I know 1BTC will always be 1BTC.... no matter what that implies.

Also, when I do increase my BTC count 1BTC=1BTC... but look, when i do sell my BTC... 1 BTC still is equal to 1BTC! Wow! Magic!

The supermarket cart, OTOH, is a *GREAT* example/moto to use. 1BTC=1BTC is lame.

I guess we can agree to disagree on this one. I will never think it is a good slogan/moto to use when talking about BTC... much less during a dump. It sounds like the typical loser statement to me. As in... "the important thing is to participate, not to win"... Yeah, right.

Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.

Wut? We are all going to die and you ask me that??!?

Nah, I am not really pissed. I just decided it was about time to say what I thought about that statement after many years of suffering it in silence.

The long term thing is different... first everyone have different considerations of long term and also price expectations change over time depending on circumstances... But... 1BTC being equal to 1BTC? Gimme a break......

I have heard rumours that the contest will be cancelled due to coronavirus.

Probably the Dude should come here and do a speech to calm the masses and tell us all is well.

Also I would like to know what measures are being taken to avoid panic from spreading between participants.

So you are expecting Bitcoin to raise in price vs fiat long term but you still think saying 1BTC = 1BTC has some meaning?

I do think in BTC terms because I do care a lot about my personal BTC count which I always try to keep increasing... that's a number that have a lot of meaning for me. I also do care about how good my BTC is doing against other assets (like USD). That's another number I do care.

1 BTC being still equal to 1 BTC? I can give two shits about that.

Really I never understood what's the point of repeating that all the time.

Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?

Wouldn't it be better if we focus on differential advantages of Bitcoin as an asset class, store of value, currency or whatever instead of repeating the same nonsense shit that could be said about EVERYTHING?

I have had this inside of me without voicing it... I really don't care... But yeah, I have always thought that each time I read that phrase.... for years now. Some day I had to let it go out.

It doesn't change the fact that saying 1BTC = 1BTC is still an obvious and completely empty statement. More so when they introduce it in the middle of a talk about actual price vs $. And repeating it every time Bitcoin dumps (surprisingly they don't say the same when it pumps) makes us look like fools.

Some day I will buy a baseball bat and start punching everyone that repeats that same old shit about one BTC being still one BTC.

C'on, Bitcoin dumped, it fucking sucks... just accept it like a man and don't invent silly excuses that mean fucking nothing!

Look how the same idiots start going full party when Bitcoin moons... wasn't it already 1BTC = 1BTC? C'on....

I "lost" a shitton of paper profits. There's no need to sugarcoat it. All this will pass when Bitcoin really moons.