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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: After testing Ripple... on: May 25, 2013, 12:19:23 AM
It's not like there is a binary version of it either. If you get access to the software you get the source, if you don't you don't.

Still not Open Source.
So ripple is STILL a scam, because they are STILL lying on their wiki & frontpage !
They could stop it any time by removing the lies. But they don't ? Why ? Because that is what scammers do.

You know what Richard Stallman would say?

Actually, yeah. He would say that it is not GPL and therefore does not protect user's freedom.
422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: After testing Ripple... on: May 24, 2013, 10:08:57 PM
https://ripple.com/wiki/Gateway_Integration_Manual#Preparation

I see I did one mistake though you don't even have to tell them your real identity(openid) just the github account...

Where is the license information ? This is still NOT open source.

If they give you the source, it does not mean it is open. It does not mean you can share it, modify it, redistribute it.

They can sue you if you use their code against their guidelines / share it with somebody.

423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: After testing Ripple... on: May 24, 2013, 10:03:43 PM
Ripple is 100% scam. Imagine a new coin that is 100% premined owned by 10 people. That's ripple. You have to be mentally slow to buy into that crap.
Just like stocks are 100% premined scam, that's right the entire economy is a scam!

That is not the real reason ripple is a scam. Ripple is a scam, because they use lies get you (and your money) into the game, so they can get more profit.

You realize that you guys gonna hit a brick wall once ripple comes out of beta?
Either way you can get access to the source of rippled right now if you reveal your openid to opencoin.

Once Ripple comes out of beta and opens their sources i will completely & totally stop accusing them of being scammers.

But the **current** state of affairs is that they are obvious scammers. I don't care about the future. I am saying the **current** truth.

If they played fair from the beginning and told only the truth (for example: remove lies from their site & wiki), there would be no problem at all. But they are lying from the very start, just as any petty scammer would do.

Did you even read the latter sentence?

Yes. [Source needed]
I'm not seeing any "download" button on their page.

Do you feel entitled or something?
It's on the wiki, I suggest you read it.

I did read some of it and i didn't find it.
Show me where it is, please.
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: After testing Ripple... on: May 24, 2013, 10:01:29 PM
Ripple is 100% scam. Imagine a new coin that is 100% premined owned by 10 people. That's ripple. You have to be mentally slow to buy into that crap.
Just like stocks are 100% premined scam, that's right the entire economy is a scam!

That is not the real reason ripple is a scam. Ripple is a scam, because they use lies get you (and your money) into the game, so they can get more profit.

You realize that you guys gonna hit a brick wall once ripple comes out of beta?
Either way you can get access to the source of rippled right now if you reveal your openid to opencoin.

Once Ripple comes out of beta and opens their sources i will completely & totally stop accusing them of being scammers.

But the **current** state of affairs is that they are obvious scammers. I don't care about the future. I am saying the **current** truth.

If they played fair from the beginning and told only the truth (for example: remove lies from their site & wiki), there would be no problem at all. But they are lying from the very start, just as any petty scammer would do.

Did you even read the latter sentence?

Yes. [Citation needed]
I'm not seeing any "download" button on their page.

EDIT: There is only client under the "source code".
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: After testing Ripple... on: May 24, 2013, 09:56:13 PM
Ripple is 100% scam. Imagine a new coin that is 100% premined owned by 10 people. That's ripple. You have to be mentally slow to buy into that crap.
Just like stocks are 100% premined scam, that's right the entire economy is a scam!

That is not the real reason ripple is a scam. Ripple is a scam, because they use lies get you (and your money) into the game, so they can get more profit.

You realize that you guys gonna hit a brick wall once ripple comes out of beta?
Either way you can get access to the source of rippled right now if you reveal your openid to opencoin.

Once Ripple comes out of beta and opens their sources i will totally stop accusing them of being scammers and remove all links from my sig (perhaps even edit some of my posts).

But the **current** state of affairs is that they are obvious scammers. I don't care about the future. I am saying the **current** truth.

If they played fair from the beginning and told only the truth (for example: remove lies from their site & wiki), there would be no problem at all. But they are lying from the very start, just as any petty scammer would do.

This is disgusting and unacceptable. How is Bitcoin community supposed to gain public trust if so many swinglers try to bend it to their needs ?
Vermin such as Ripple needs to be eradicated.
426  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-23 RT Prime Interest: Next Generation Bitcoins with Ripple on: May 24, 2013, 09:32:33 PM
I think they can take all their pre-mined coins and their centralized infrastructure and piss off now.

Centralized, *closed source* infrastructure.

Fixed That For You.
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: After testing Ripple... on: May 24, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
Wow, nice to find this old thread active again. I collected new information so i think can bring huge input to this discussion.

Well, i know it looks stupid to answer me myself, but i will give it a try.

So far i keep reading lots of vague information & buzzwords on the net about Ripple, and I still cannot figure what it exactly is and what it will actually do.

Would somebody care to explain it to me in few simple words ?

"Ripple is a despicable scam that tries to lure suckers into another FIAT central banking system using lies of being open source and decentralized".

I think that nails it.

EDIT:
Ripple is 100% scam. Imagine a new coin that is 100% premined owned by 10 people. That's ripple. You have to be mentally slow to buy into that crap.
Just like stocks are 100% premined scam, that's right the entire economy is a scam!

That is not the real reason ripple is a scam. Ripple is a scam, because they use lies to get you (and your money) into the game, so they can get more profit.
428  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Project Meshnet: Hardware for cjdns to enable new, censorship free Internet on: May 24, 2013, 07:47:55 AM
With the newsrumors of China starting to censor Bitcoin traffic

Source ? Last time i checked China happily encouraged people to use Bitcoin on their national propagandist TV.
429  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [SOFT-FORK] Bitcoin fork "No Forced TX Fee" v0.8.1 avaiable on: May 23, 2013, 02:57:54 PM

64 transactions! Overall sum just 0.03297843 BTC!
SIZE 2.333 kB for almost nothing !!
Fee 0.0015   
http://blockexplorer.com/b/237507
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1GfV8CBz6rhKAzPRVt4jYiJLdghmvWptfR

A system taken seriously should not allow (or enforce??) such obvious nonsens at all.


And how is that related to this topic ?
If you haven't noticed, my fork takes LESS fees than the standard client.

Please discuss this in a thread dedicated to the STANDARD Bitcoin-Qt client, not NFTF client.

This topic is for discussion & support for the NFTF client fork.
430  Other / Meta / Re: Ripple trying to take over the Bitcoin Discussion thread on: May 23, 2013, 08:47:46 AM
There's a tendency for every Ripple related thread to turn into discussions about Ripple. It's certainly not very productive.

If people are learning, then why is it not productive?
He thinks Ripple is a scam

If Ripple guys are lying right from the beginning just to get people in the game (and profit from them), then i would say it is the definition of scam.
431  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-23 FXEmpire : Is Bitcoin An Investment, A Currency Or A Payment System ? on: May 23, 2013, 08:45:02 AM
Quote
Is Bitcoin An Investment, A Currency Or A Payment System ?

All of the above.
432  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Ripple: A Distributed Exchange for Bitcoin on: May 23, 2013, 08:16:05 AM
Use of the term "pre-mine" in relation to XRP is not cleverly derogatory, it's patently idiotic.
XRPs were created out of thin air by a corporation, not "pre-mined".

Hahaha

Spot on.
433  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-04-24: Zerocoin Video Presentation at Microsoft Research on: May 23, 2013, 07:48:04 AM
MS employees researching Bitcoin and Zerocoin? Thanks, this is big.
Yeah, big for them. They will just plunder and pillage BTC and leave the remains to rot, like they always do.

Oh yeah, like they can.
This is not 1990's and Microsoft is not a monopoly in digital currencies. They will have to either produce something good or die. The open source/libertarian/cryptoanarchist world will quickly kick their asses if they try something funny.
434  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [SOFT-FORK] Bitcoin fork "No Forced TX Fee" v0.8.1 avaiable on: May 23, 2013, 07:08:44 AM
Each lawyer will tell you:
All these ARBITRARY and UNFORESEEABLE enforced transaction fees are ILLEGAL.

It cannot be down to miners whim, what at all and even HOW MUCH they want to claim.
A claim of fees must at least clearly be declared before a transaction is definitely mandated by users.

Otherwise there is no agreement.
No agreement, no fee.
And no other chicanry like delays or denial of service (seems also applied - illegally).

Miners have the right to choose whom they provide service to or not.



Start a new topic. This is not the right place.
435  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [SOFT-FORK] Bitcoin fork "No Forced TX Fee" v0.8.1 avaiable on: May 22, 2013, 09:38:06 PM
Each lawyer will tell you:
All these ARBITRARY and UNFORESEEABLE enforced transaction fees are ILLEGAL.

It cannot be down to miners whim, what at all and even HOW MUCH they want to claim.
A claim of fees must at least clearly be declared before a transaction is definitely mandated by users.

Otherwise there is no agreement.
No agreement, no fee.
And no other chicanry like delays or denial of service (seems also applied - illegally).

Wut ?

Seriously, this topic is not related to what you said and this is not a place for such discussion. Please start a new topic and stop derailing this one.
436  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Holy Grail! I wish I could kiss the author of Bitmessage on his face. on: May 22, 2013, 10:33:20 AM
Sounds like a far superior alternative to Ripple. One that the community can get behind.

What's the important difference with Ripple?
It still seems to be IOUs.

Ripple is centralized, closed source and it is not based on "the same underlying crypto" as bitcoin.
Everything on their site & wiki is lies.
437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: RT is all over Bitcoin on: May 22, 2013, 08:33:47 AM
WTF? BTC Documentary!? That's pretty shocking. Think I can find this on youtube?

You new here ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208183.0

Take a look in "Press" section sometimes.

Wow that link was posted a couple days ago. It's been so long right?

In the Bitcoin world, almost eternity Tongue
438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: RT is all over Bitcoin on: May 22, 2013, 07:52:34 AM
WTF? BTC Documentary!? That's pretty shocking. Think I can find this on youtube?

You new here ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208183.0

Take a look in "Press" section sometimes.
439  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: RT is all over Bitcoin on: May 22, 2013, 07:10:19 AM
RT = quasi-gov't-sponsored propaganda shop affiliated with Russian security services
Quite obviously.

But it shows that Russia, similarly to China also hates dollar and would like to get rid of it (FYI: China propagandist CCTV broadcasted 20+ minutes Bitcoin documentary).

This may escalate to a full-scale currency war some day, I'm just saying...
440  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The True Explanation of Ripple for Bitcoiners on: May 21, 2013, 11:10:12 AM
he's busy deleting posts of mine as well.  he's [misterbigg) a scumbag Ripple shill.

Right in the spot.

Also, ripple is:
- NOT Open Source (lies on site & wiki)
- NOT Decentralized (lies on site & wiki)
- NOT Based on "the same underlying cryptography as BTC" (lies on site & wiki)
- Printable/Inflatable in any amount, at any time by its creators

For more, check my signature.
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