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481  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin on: May 13, 2013, 02:24:32 PM
Ripple is not open. It falsely suggests that it is by using the "open" word and additionally providing link to an open source repository.
You figured out our secret, the one thing we absolutely, positively didn't want the world to know. However did you do it? Was it the fact that we've said exactly this over and over? Or was it the five seconds you spent with a search engine?

Can you name any payment network that is as open as Ripple is now? Can you see all PayPal transactions. Is the ledger containing all PayPal balances public? Can anyone who wants to check the signature on every Visa transaction?

No, but still you are not "open".

Source code is not "open", you can do what you want in your closed code and nobody can really control you (except governments of course).

Also, because you are not Open Source, governments can shut you down at any given time they want.
482  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin on: May 13, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
While much has been said kin this topic and i don't have time to read it(or even skim through it), I can say this:

The world's first open payment network

This is FALSE. Big fat lie. (Actually, it's a double lie, because Ripple is neither first payment network or open)

Ripple is not open. It falsely suggests that it is by using the "open" word and additionally providing link to an open source repository.

This is the end of discussion for me. Ripple is not open. Ripple creators (OpenCoin) are liars. End of story.

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BTW, I am happy that somebody finally solved the big "Ripple Mystery" for me. I was wondering what is it for and why the hell would i use it (and for). Now I now I won't because it is a scam.

Go OpenTransactions, DIE ripple !
483  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Is anybody working on a cluster Bitcoin client yet ? on: May 13, 2013, 10:36:38 AM
Hey, i was just wondering. Is anybody working on a cluster Bitcoin client yet ?

And by "cluster Bitcoin client" I mean:

- Works using networked sub-clients, each doing only part of the work (transaction signing / relaying / storing blockchain).
- Can be run on multiple machines utilizing all their processors and internet connections
- Can use multiple Internet connections at once
- Can be run on clusters, supercomputers, beowulfs, server farms etc.

Or maybe perhaps it has already been written, but I didn't notice it ?
484  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A big milestone - 2^70 hash operations on: May 12, 2013, 07:32:03 PM
But it's still probably just an estimate.

My understanding is that it may overshoot or undershoot between blocks (because it doesn't know the exact number, only the average) but the average over all these years should be very close to the real number.
And what percent is that number, from all the possible 2^256 SHA256 hashes?

I join the question.
485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 10, 2013, 08:38:51 PM
Most IT geeks don't have the personal skills required to rule the world outside of their computer.  I would however expect that more "world rulers" will start gaining IT skills in order to have more power and be able to do more things.

Now the situation is different. They don't need any personal skills.

1. They will have a lot of money to vote with their wallets.
2. They have the Internet using which they can communicate with other people and shape their minds (already happening)
3. They will have companies & lawyers at their disposal so they can push legislation they want.
486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 10, 2013, 08:50:13 AM
geeks can be had for $5/hour at freelancer.in, in the millions
Yeah, they can "be had" because everybody needs money, but that does affect their opinions.
Just geeks' opinions on technological matters could change the future (or actually: are already changing).

Reason: most people don't understand technology, so they turn to geeks when they seek "guidance".
487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 09, 2013, 08:41:58 PM
Have you even remotely understood what I was pointing out?

In fact, nope. I was In a hurry and I read without understanding. Sorry for that.
You are probably right it seems.

However most of you people are so pessimistic that I now regret creating this topic in the first place. It only made me feel worse.
488  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 09, 2013, 02:28:36 PM
The net result is that the knowledge and abilities of the typical geek get exploited easily to get the hard work done, while other people just wait to reap the benefits. The typical geek ends up as an disenchanted, resentful and immature person (due to lacks of chance for social development and "training on the job"). And in the end, even outperformed by the next geek kiddy generation.
So I guess Larry Page & Linus Torvalds also got "exploited easily" ? Is that what you want to say ?

Of course, not all of the geeks have to be famous & powerful, but they will vote with their (Bitcoin) wallets, and that is enough. Many IT geeks are already some of the most powerful people on this planet. And there will be more and more of them.

Also, many of these new geeks will be cryptoanarchist and/or libertarian - type guys, which do not like to be controlled & manipulated. This is where your theory falls short.

But the truth is - only the future will tell for sure.
489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 09, 2013, 09:56:29 AM
@greyhawk

Man.

Hitler and Napoleon as Geek/Nerd examples ? I Mean, WTF - seriously ? What the hell is wrong with you ?
By "geek" or "nerd" i didn't mean people who are bullied at school and later take their anger on the world. I mean enthusiasts who are fascinated by new technology and spend a lot of time developing & upgrading it.

Examples:
Nikola Tesla, Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman, Steve Wozniak, Larry Page, Gavin Andresen, John Carmack, "Valve guys", Oculus Rift guys, young Bill Gates (somewhat). That kind of geeks.


"A nerd (adjective: nerdy) is a person, typically described as being overly intellectual, obsessive, or socially impaired. They may spend inordinate amounts of time on unpopular, obscure, or non-mainstream activities, which are generally either highly technical or relating to topics of fiction or fantasy, to the exclusion of more mainstream activities"

I was looking for the definition so that i could side with you, but after reading it a chill went up my spine... holy shit guys, Hitler was DEFINITELY a nerd!  haha

I think the today's definition of "nerd" is no longer in sync with the dictionary definition. When people today think of "nerd", they visualise an IT, mathematics, physics or other science specialist.

No, no, they don't. That's a re-definition nerds use to make themselves look not as weird in their own eyes. And yes, Hitler was a nerd, the "computer + anime dude" equivalent back then was painting, which was his real obsession. He just wanted to bbe a painter.

OK, so bad choice of words on my side. I was talking about IT geeks, not nerds in general.

I changed the original post to reflect what I actually wanted to express.

490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 09, 2013, 06:57:51 AM
@greyhawk

Man.

Hitler and Napoleon as Geek/Nerd examples ? I Mean, WTF - seriously ? What the hell is wrong with you ?
By "geek" or "nerd" i didn't mean people who are bullied at school and later take their anger on the world. I mean enthusiasts who are fascinated by new technology and spend a lot of time developing & upgrading it.

Examples:
Nikola Tesla, Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman, Steve Wozniak, Larry Page, Gavin Andresen, John Carmack, "Valve guys", Oculus Rift guys, young Bill Gates (somewhat). That kind of geeks.


"A nerd (adjective: nerdy) is a person, typically described as being overly intellectual, obsessive, or socially impaired. They may spend inordinate amounts of time on unpopular, obscure, or non-mainstream activities, which are generally either highly technical or relating to topics of fiction or fantasy, to the exclusion of more mainstream activities"

I was looking for the definition so that i could side with you, but after reading it a chill went up my spine... holy shit guys, Hitler was DEFINITELY a nerd!  haha

I think the today's definition of "nerd" is no longer in sync with the dictionary definition. When people today think of "nerd", they visualise an IT, mathematics, physics or other science specialist.
491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 09, 2013, 05:30:44 AM
@greyhawk

Man.

Hitler and Napoleon as Geek/Nerd examples ? I Mean, WTF - seriously ? What the hell is wrong with you ?
By "geek" or "nerd" i didn't mean people who are bullied at school and later take their anger on the world. I mean enthusiasts who are fascinated by new technology and spend a lot of time developing & upgrading it.

Examples:
Nikola Tesla, Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman, Steve Wozniak, Larry Page, Gavin Andresen, John Carmack, "Valve guys", Oculus Rift guys, young Bill Gates (somewhat). That kind of geeks.
492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 08, 2013, 10:37:29 PM
Nerds & Geeks seem to be ok with being ruled at the point of a gun. People who are not very smart but are charismatic are the ones in control of those guns.
Well, history is full of surprises.

493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 08, 2013, 10:11:05 PM
I know all of this may sound funny, but I am actually quite serious.
Actually it sounds kind of sad, its almost like you are trying to justify your lack of social skills.

It's like back in high school when people would say the same type of thing, like: "in 20 years the nerds will be the jock's bosses" or "the popular kids now will be pumping gas and the nerds will all be rich".

The problem is, that isn't even remotely true, its wish-fulfillment fantasy.

You don't know anything about me. Don't assume anything.
Many people who meet me on daily basis think they know me, yet they don't.

The above has nothing to do with any fantasy. I'm just stating the inevitable. If Bitcoin will rule the world, so will geeks.
Just look at how much rise of the Internet has raised the geek social status. Bitcoin will increase it 10-fold or 100-fold.

Geeks will be the new high-standard which everybody will aspire to.

I am not actually producing anything so revolutionary here. Geeks are among the wealthiest people of the world. In my country, geeks are the people who earn the most money already. This is already happening
494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 08, 2013, 09:49:38 PM
Nerds grow up to be old stodgey white men with little compassion for new technology, young people or liberal society. They already rule the world.
True story.
Source ?
495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 08, 2013, 09:00:32 PM
How can a small box of candies rule the world?

I don't know, ask them.
496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 08, 2013, 08:56:43 PM
How thought-provoking  Roll Eyes
Please elaborate ?
497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / [CORRECTED] IT geeks will rule the world. Soon on: May 08, 2013, 08:47:55 PM
During random discussion it finally occured to me: Nerds & Geeks IT geeks/enthusiasts will rule the world in about the next 20 years. In my opinion, it is practically inevitable.

It is now pretty clear few basic technologies will be building blocks of the future and among them the 2 we already know:
- Internet: It has already changed the world. In the next 10-20 years practically EVERYTHING will be done using Internet to a some degree (if it already isn't ?). People won't know how to live without it. Internet is created & run by IT geeks.
- Bitcoin: It its highly probable that it will rewrite the whole financial system from the scratch, and with it - whole economy. And economy rules everything: from people, through companies to whole countries. Bitcoin is also run by IT geeks.

Some facts:
- Huge amount of financial wealth is already owned by IT enthusiasts because of new IT companies such as Google and Facebook.
- Because the IT enthusiasts rule the internet, they influence practically everybody's opinion
- The IT enthusiasts (including early adopters) will [probably] accumulate almost inconceivable amount of wealth because of Bitcoin. And people with the most wealth will rule
- The old people don't understand the new world and won't invest so much in new technologies (just look at Bloomberg/Fox Buisness interviews), so they will be gradually replaced by nerds on all positions of power

Also everybody should be actually quite happy with nerds as their new ruling elite. Reasons:
- Nerds IT geeks are smart.
- Nerds IT geeks are more logical than other people, so are less prone to manipulation
- Nerds IT geeks don't lust money as much as most other people (they care about gadgets and IT stuff instead).
- Nerds IT geeks don't lust power as much as most other people (they care about doing cool things with IT stuff instead). Which implies greater resistance to corruption.
- Nerds IT geeks actually know how to build, run & test complex systems, so if they were to rule globally, that would improve the world a lot (just look what the Internet has done already, and much much more can be achieved)

So if you are not an IT geek, you should welcome your new geeky overlords.

If you are an IT geek, you should prepare for the inevitable and try to be a good ruler for your future underlings.

I know all of this may sound funny, but I am actually quite serious.
498  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-07 Daily Dot - The Future of Bitcoin According to Erik Vorhees on: May 08, 2013, 08:32:28 PM
and the masses will just look at each other, poor and say "what happened, the neirds have all the wealth???"

That is why I am glad I am married to one.   Grin  

Everybody should be glad the nerds will be the new elite.

- We are smart.
- We don't care as much for money as most other people (we care about gadgets and IT stuff instead).
- We don't care as much for power as most other people (we care about doing cool things with IT stuff instead).
- We actually know how to build complex systems, so if we were to rule, that would improve the world a lot (just look what the Internet has done already)

NERDZ RLZ.

Unfortunately not all people buying BTC are nerds though.  Otherwise we would be looking at a new Utopia.   Wink

But Bitcoin economy has much higher percentage of nerdism than normal economy. And many early adopters were nerds. And they will be almost unimaginably wealthy (think WHOLE-COUNTRY-BUYING-WEALTHY) once Bitcoin is globally used to buy groceries.
499  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-07 Daily Dot - The Future of Bitcoin According to Erik Vorhees on: May 08, 2013, 08:08:02 PM
and the masses will just look at each other, poor and say "what happened, the neirds have all the wealth???"

That is why I am glad I am married to one.   Grin  

Everybody should be glad the nerds will be the new elite.

- We are smart.
- We don't care as much for money as most other people (we care about gadgets and IT stuff instead).
- We don't care as much for power as most other people (we care about doing cool things with IT stuff instead).
- We actually know how to build complex systems, so if we were to rule, that would improve the world a lot (just look what the Internet has done already)

NERDZ RLZ.
500  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. on: April 26, 2013, 10:41:19 AM
Above you can see that somebody involved with THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. is trying to "use" you.

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Do you have a back ground in this sort of thing? I think we could use someone who knows something about this.

Additionally, they now admit they have other things to do as well as advancing Bitcoin. What is this hidden agenda?

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The foundation has a lot of work to do in addition to advancing Bitcoin.

**** Well there you have it, a United States corporation is trying to take over Bitcoin. **** 

Good luck everyone.

This is extremely paranoid even by my standards and I am quite paranoid.
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