Could be on a more massive scale.
Needs further investigation?
Tonight I looked through 100 previously unchecked, consecutive u=numbers, in the OP target range, and found 27 farmed active users. None had been banned (about 5 not farmed active users in that 100 sample, the others inactive) That is 5 farmed spam accounts for every 1 not farmed active account in my sample. (Those 5 may/may not be spammers, but they are not farmed) No wonder bitcointalk is overrun. Theymos must know this. If anyone is interested, I will publish. I thought people were worried about spam. These active farmed accounts are the root cause. Is account farming allowed? |
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It's a nice way to make money if you don't give a shit about bitcointalk and don't mind taking a dump all over the forum. Can't these mongoloids find a more honest way to make money, like farming gold on WoW? (don't know if that's still done, but you get the point). It's not an effortless job to rank up a bunch of BS accounts, especially if they're enrolled in signature campaigns that have rules, and it's not a super high-paying one either. In fact, it takes some sort of hardcore, dedicated, insane scoundrelly type to come up with this shit to make money.
Farming gold on WoW is still done today. Just take a look at the big name marketplace sites such as Epicnpc and Sythe or even owned core. Thanks for popping in lightyard12, you 1 line shit posting ,account selling, signature spammer. "a nice way to make money if you don't give a shit about bitcointalk" |
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Hide_ip112 - Loves to quote and agree, adding pointless information. And copy/paste.Hide_ip112 Apr 3 2016 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163902.msg14409553#msg14409553Without a doubt, forcing someone to use bitcoin or putting them in a position where it can be seen as neutral or maybe even negative isn't always the best. I think people should willing want to use bitcoin and that includes women. Bitcoin is still relatively generally unknown to a majority of people, not many people are aware of things like this possibly exist. Duomo Dec 14 2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163902.366Without a doubt, forcing someone to use bitcoin or putting them in a position where it can be seen as neutral or maybe even negative isn't always the best. I think people should willing want to use bitcoin and that includes women. Bitcoin is still relatively generally unknown to a majority of people, not many people are aware of things like this possibly exist. ***** dunfida - Posts are within a few minutes of each other, clearly spam. Because this account is part of a massive farming operation.(should be on bbc reporters list. I am assured they are all banned) dunfida - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661329 should be on bbc reporters list. A farmed account of the same period/ilk. Compare danfoda - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=661356 Very similar name? registered 15 min later. dunfida first posted, Nov 22, Dec 3,12,24, Jan 6,19, Feb 1,14,27, Mar 14, 27, Apr 4,12,27, May 11,24, June 7, 21, July 5 (1 post per date) danfoda first posted, Nov 22, Dec 3,12,23, Jan 6,19, Feb 1,14,27, Mar 14, 27, Apr 4,12,27, May 11,24, June 7, 21, July 5 (1 post per date) Only 1 date was different - Dec 23/24, as these accounts ranks were farmed up. ***** I'll check some others on your list another time. |
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Update,
I don't want Kahir banned. That was never the point. (and he is not banned, so he need not be afa i'm concerned)
I'm just highlighting the "flexability" of application on a "hard" rule. (hard rule according to some mods, see above post)
I stand by saying twa is a spammer. (his posts are more worthless than his c/p offence)
CryingMidget did appear to have rather a lot of c/p?
BCtalk has bigger problems than Kahir.
Is it just me?
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The accounts on OP list are "active". Not a thing of the past. As I have shown. I can assure you that those accounts have been banned. I can assure you there have been posts within an hour and a half ago. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1594768.msg16017183#msg16017183After I first posted about this issue tonight. Also -added-, to be clearer. Are all the thousands of others I have implicated/linked, but not "found yet" by OP. Are they banned too? |
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The accounts on OP list are "active". Not a thing of the past. As I have shown. I can assure you that those accounts have been banned. Just because someone is listed as a member, it doesn't mean they aren't banned. Only the staff can see if a user is banned or not. Anyway, moderators cannot ban members (because of how SMF ACL's system is build), only global moderators can, so we, as normal staff, really can't do anything. There is just one exception: Newbies. Those members can be nuked (but not banned) by Patrollers, which we have done with those MMMGlobal and KNC accounts. You have no rules. Only vague rumour, open to individual moderators to enforce. Maybe you should read: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQAnd as usual the moderators jump in before they read/understand. I do not need assuring that those accounts are banned. I stated they very well maybe. I just wanted to know. I could not know, BUT I CORRECTLY ASSUMED THEY MAYBE. I know you cannot do anything Mitchell. (not even address the account farmed "active" member issue) Hence I suggested Theymos reply. Your rules are only vague rumour, open to individual moderators to enforce. As you point out, even the rules list is "unofficial". Some poor soul trying tho make some sense. (lol. first line in bold "NOTE: This is meant to serve as a reference/educational/informational thread, NOT a rock solid list of rules.") Did you guys not see my copy/paste reports? (please answer that on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0 off topic here) Edit - Something you could have acted on/could still act on, but chose not to? |
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Not sure why you're telling me this since I can't do anything about them. You should be talking to global moderators regarding those, not me.
You stuck your "I cant do anything" nose in. I never invited your response. Butt out. Update, you didn't/couldn't answer my questions. |
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If i'm "lucky"? Ok, lets see if I can tempt him here.  They are very busy and it is rather likely that you will not get a response at this time. Are "they". That is fine, don't respond then. Just keep pretending you havn't seen the "active" OP spam farmed list then. In Oct 2015 (rough figures as guide, impossible for me to study properly) created accounts consist mainly of (or i was just very lucky to "hit" target)
Accounts between 572000 and 575000 are "btcRDkill_"
Accounts between575000 and 600200 are "MrFudged1_"
Accounts between 600200 and 625000 are "KNC_areThief"
That was a wave of spam accounts by the same person. We have been manually banning them back then (I remember having a 5 second refresh timer on the member page) and then the situation started to calm down as we've started using a bot to do it for us. They are a thing of the past (for now). Banning 50,000 accounts by hand? Idiots. (i said they may have been banned, i cannot know) The accounts on OP list are "active". Not a thing of the past. As I have shown. And the many thousand others which I have shown. If you cared to read.[/quote] Clearly these farmed spammers will just keep coming en masse. You will never keep up with them.
With the appropriate rules and tools we can. You have no rules. Only vague rumour, open to individual moderators to enforce. Your tools have not detected this account farming spam. Or you have chosen not to act? (like on my copy/paste reports. 1 strike and your out hilariousandco said. lol) |
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I hope Theymos can find time to comment here.
Possibly, if you're lucky. If i'm "lucky"? Ok, lets see if I can tempt him here. "Viewing all members is temporarily disabled" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlistSo, It is painstaking to research this topic of "who" is spamming. The (main) period of time in question by OP is when accounts 600,000 - 700,000 were created, that period was Oct/Nov/Dec 2015, approx. If you view the "forum history", ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats) at the bottom of the page you will see in October 2015 68832 people joined bitcointalk. (up 9 fold from 7727 in sept, and more than joined in the previous 6 months) Followed by 44058 in Nov 2015, and 39950 in Dec 2015 (and for several months after, maybe these accounts are too new for OP to have "noticed" these yet) I know these figures are not conclusive to account farming. But coupled with my previous observations, maybe more so. Also, I have found other massive "attacks". In Oct 2015 (rough figures as guide, impossible for me to study properly) created accounts consist mainly of (or i was just very lucky to "hit" target) Accounts between 572000 and 575000 are "btcRDkill_" Accounts between575000 and 600200 are "MrFudged1_" Accounts between 600200 and 625000 are "KNC_areThief" (all followed by different numbers) Over 50 thousand there. Again, i know these aren't "all" countable, but most seem to be. Have a go yourself. (i have no tools here) Pick a number between u=572000 and u=625000. Which one above did you hit? Also endless (unused) MMMglobal accounts. Are they responsible for all of this? Pick a number between OP target u=600000 to u=700000. (guess, 1 in 5 chance to hit) Also the strange letters at the end of names I previously mentioned, and Connected. Take your pick of target u=, very good chance to hit. These accounts are All(?) inactive? Are these accounts already banned? Or just waiting. I cannot know. I previously linked (some of) OP listed active accounts. There are many more "patterns" which are easily findable in these active farmed accounts. They are all bought up to status by posting once a fortnight. the minimum post to max potential? (you need to look at the first posts on the account. it may be sold now) Christmas day wont stop the system. (i know, why should it) But for fun(!) look at "stadus", https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919 Check his original posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919;sa=showPosts;start=180He posted Nov 25, Dec 5/14/25, Jan 7/20, Feb 2/14/27 Now see "asidaman", https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926 (he joined 4 min 11 seconds later than stadus) Check his original posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926;sa=showPostsHe posted Nov 25, Dec 6/14/25, Jan 7/20, Feb 2/15/28 This pattern runs right through OP target period Look at "efemen" (from OP list) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667865And compare with (all registered within 8 minutes) "Falmant" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667868"Gatotare" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667872"Hamaber" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667873 They posted on (from first posts remember) Dec 27, Jan 5/16/27, Feb 9/22 Dec 27, Jan 6/17/29, Feb 10/23 Dec 27, Jan 7/18/30, Feb 9/22 Dec 27, Feb 8/19/31, Feb 10/23 This pattern runs right through OP target period? It is MASSIVE. It's not an effortless job to rank up a bunch of BS accounts, especially if they're enrolled in signature campaigns that have rules, and it's not a super high-paying one either. In fact, it takes some sort of hardcore, dedicated, insane scoundrelly type to come up with this shit to make money.
Correct. However, keep in mind that the problem is also caused by the signature campaigns themselves. They usually are not putting up enough pressure on their participants regarding quality, or just don't care at all. As long as there's no regulation, and not enough pressure from the stuff the situation will keep degrading. Clearly these farmed spammers will just keep coming en masse. You will never keep up with them. If I can stumble on this, you must already know. Is this Anti spam thing all a pretence? Theymos must know all this and could act. It would "kill" spam overnight. Why hasn't he acted? (OP, you have listed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=658316 twice. and maybe another. could you order them in sequence and maybe include user names. more human friendly than the present list!) (edited, < 1 hour) |
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Yes. It really needs further investigation because it is possible that this is now done in a massive scale because it is a business to them. They also make sure they have accounts available to sell for each rank. I will post more spammers of the same kind if I see them.
I hope you have seen my "adds" above and can understand the implications. Obviously this is quite hard to follow. Long lists of numbers/links. But In my brief look, I think I have linked one of your listed users to many different (unlisted) accounts. Now times that by thousands more. If you are trying to find more of these farmed accounts as they post, you will be looking for eternity. From my quick look, I would bet there are many thousand you haven't found yet, for every one you have found. (many are dormant) If all these farmed accounts could be culled in swathes, would the spam problem be almost solved overnight? If these swathes of accounts are registering on a limited number of IP, Theymos would know wouldn't he? If I have reasonably connected multiple accounts in an hour, Theymos must have done the same? All the mods must be aware that this is where a very large % of the spam originates? I hope Theymos can find time to comment here. |
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That thread is in the wrong section. This thread is about saving this forum the OP of the other thread has a different agenda. Agreed. Maybe. Here is my list of spammers... They join a signature campaign and rank up at the same time by spamming then sell the accounts later to other spammers.
Good list actually. Quick look reveals... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676083;sa=showPosts"The account is still available." "I have sold one. Another one is available." Added, Looking a little further, I compared u=numbers, for example, (from your list) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669128https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669144are only 16 registrations apart. So looking at u=669129 through to u=669143 shows a very similar pattern of farming (except 1 possibly? lol if you find it!) All histories are either 0/0 x 6, 5/5 x 1, 20/20 x 6, or 40/40 x 1. (the 1 odd one 669140 has 293/280, probably unassosiated) Could be on a more massive scale. Needs further investigation? Added again, Again look at the users surrounding, say, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662242 from your list. (you have another only 38 regestrations away, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662280) The next registered user, u=662243 has a 21/21 score (activity/post) and looks the same as your targets. The next registered user, u=662244 has 177/177, and looks the same as your targets. Then the next two are 0/0 (and looks the same as your targets, in idle) Followed by u=662247 having 74/74, and looks the same as your targets. They are probably the same owner. Look back from 662242. Looks pretty boring. 662241 has 1/1, then 10 0/0 accounts. Hard to connect these? Look at the names. Many end cfcaf. 662235/4/3/2/1/ all cfcaf ending. Lets follow cfcaf back up the regestration numbers. u=662249, Payablesadcfcaf. So from 662231, straight through your already listed "662242", up to 662249. (no not every name, no one is that dumb) Then u=662250 is Coolibarsacdeddf. Ending cdeddf. then Hardwiredacdeddf, and Classlessnessacdeddf in the next 10 registrants (u=662253, u=662257) These u=numbers themselves are interspersed with "real N. ames" Howard M. Patterson u/662255, Orlando C. Siegel u=662256, Jared D. Lees u=662258, and so on. All these are very probably the same owner, and should be on your list. + the countless thousand others. |
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There is quite a lot wrong here! This thread is going to need some interaction with mods, to confirm actions taken. ie permaban, tempban, no action. Action taken needs to be displayed. How else can this thread bring closure. Are some of these accused already banned, some not? With mod input it is possible people could learn more about this subject? The different "classes" of accused need separating into different subsections for clarity. Reports such as copy/paste are clear cut and need no further investigation, and as far as I can tell leads to a permaban. Whereas, reports such as "He's annoying" are not so clear cut. (my reported copy/paste are pure, simple "undeclared" copy/paste. where as the anonymous reported catch.me.if.you.can copy/paste is not undeclared. it has a link to origin. unless link was since added? or i am not finding a particular post?) Copy paste seems a permaban offence? As far as i know you only found 2 copy paste that i did. It must be a 7 day ban only and not permaban.
And i think that i learned from my mistake. I will not do it again.
One is all you need. One copied post = one permaban. Besides, most of your posts are trash and there's probably more copy and pastes but I just don't have the time or care to find any more. Edit. Also. Copy-pasting content results in a permanent ban.
So I await the outcomes of my copy/paste reports. seems black and white to me. The only way I can tell though is to wait and see if they ever post again. 2 of 3 copy/paste reported by me have posted again. 1 has deleted his copy/paste post, and after making his excuses, locked the thread I reported in. The other report I made on jonnyjash, 14 posts of total trash. (is listed as "post in bursts"? and does not link to my post?) Those 14 posts have been deleted. By himself? By mod? Who knows.? He did not post for 1 week, but is now active again. Did he have a week ban? Posts deleted by mod? 2nd chance? Fair enough. But not one of his total posts is anything more than the finest spam. Show me one post of his even remotely informative/intelligent/whatever. And in the last days of his "ban return", nothing has changed. All 1 line shitposts. I know jonnynash is my "he's annoying" report, but if this poster is not of a low enough quality for mods to want to act against, then bitcointalk may as well admit they DO allow anyone to shitpost pure spam and be done with it. imo. |
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Hello all! I am on this forum for long time but i don't know this!
Is there is a way to check how many bans account had? As i think i had ban on this account but i don't remember, so i would like to check...
Hello, thanks for bringing yourself to my attention. You are not on this forum a long time. Your account has been, not you. Your account was registered in Jan 2012, was active for 3 months, writing 34 posts of apparent good quality. Then a break of 4 years and 4 months, until July 20 2016, when you purchaced this account and started posting. You are now sponsored by bitvest to spam shitpost. Nothing we can do about that, no rules broken? However, you make it easy for a ban when you copy pasted your very first post in control of this account. Well, I either cry for joy or I cry for my loss... I only won one big amount in my entire gambling career(1 BTC in 1 bet), and the rest are basically losses. I think it hurts you the most when you need those BTC, but you still are stupid enough to waste it on some gambling site...
Well, I either cry for joy or I cry for my loss... I only won one big amount in my entire gambling career(1 BTC in 1 bet), and the rest are basically losses. I think it hurts you the most when you need those BTC, but you still are stupid enough to waste it on some gambling site...
So to answer your question, I don't think this account was banned in the past. But it will be now. I would suggest putting a t on the end of your name, but it wont matter now you are history. Have a nice day, twa. |
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Of course I know what wallets I use!This is not my first transaction!But it is this wallet,which took bitcoins,not mine, and for the first time, came from somewhere!That's the problem!And that to me and my wallets for the first time.Don't take me for an idiot! I'm not asking to ask or to tell,I am asking for help in the problem...write only if I really can help,your speculation does not interest me!
I was trying to help you twat. You clearly have no clue what you are doing - I wanted to start with some facts. You don't even seem to know the difference between a purse wallet and an address. Ok, I cooled down now. I don't know what has happened here. The information is far, far to vague. I think it is almost as likely that the 2.9 btc are still in control of OP, as it is that he was hacked. With respect to knightdk, but no other poster here I don't think, this looks to me like a possible case of confusion from OP. As I said I have personally seen this situation before. (from the sideline) If OP is or is not in control of this address, how would local bitcoin "customer services" know any different?  So all I can see is that OP wont explain clearly, and took my enquiries as trolling (looking now, i can understand why), even though I am the only poster who believes he still has a chance of still being in control of his 2.9 btc. (hero member, no sig ) Knightdk, until I see some information from OP (or others) that tells me otherwise, I'm sticking to that possibility. Maybe you could coax some info out of him for me?  |
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Of course I know what wallets I use!This is not my first transaction!But it is this wallet,which took bitcoins,not mine, and for the first time, came from somewhere!That's the problem!And that to me and my wallets for the first time.Don't take me for an idiot! I'm not asking to ask or to tell,I am asking for help in the problem...write only if I really can help,your speculation does not interest me!
I was trying to help you twat. You clearly have no clue what you are doing - I wanted to start with some facts. You don't even seem to know the difference between a purse wallet and an address. |
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Is it time to create that thread?
To post this kind of stuff? THe first X11 ASIC miner on the market .. massive snip
http://cryptomining-blog.com/7752-what-we-dont-like-about-the-ibelink-dm384m-x11-asic-miner/THe first X11 ASIC miner on the market .. massive snip https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260666.msg14788785#msg14788785Locked thread. poster Kahir. May 8 2016 But this reason can be justified and unjustified! Trust me, I know some people that had their accounts limited and even frozen and this has killed their income earning over eBay, and they lived from selling stuff on eBay! Whenever you have a single person that is deciding your destiny during a dispute, you never how will this end! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260666.msg13086174#msg13086174 Locked thread. Poster Mickeyb. Nov 27 2015. But this reason can be justified and unjustified! Trust me, I know some people that had their accounts limited and even frozen and this has killed their income earning over eBay, and they lived from selling stuff on eBay! Whenever you have a single person that is deciding your destiny during a dispute, you never how will this end! I've been involved in Bitcoin since early 2010...back when you could still mine with video cards. In the interest of full transparency I put about 10 BTC into the Neucoin presale. It might be gone now, but I was aware of the risk going in.
Honestly I don't think Neucoin is a scam. They went to a lot of trouble to be appear very professional, and in the whole grand scheme of things didn't take in that much money to justify everything it appears they did. The "scam", if there is one, could come as a pump and dump. But a lot of things are pumped, especially in crypto, and I'm not against riding a pump and dump for some quick profits. I've done that with a few other coins and generally have sold profitably, but much earlier than I should have.
e.g., Gawminers was obviously a scam from the beginning, and by the time Paycoin came along I really couldn't understand why people were still engaged. I bought some equipment early on from Gawminers. I received it, but was very skeptical about how they ran their business and pretty quickly stopped buying from them. I actually got a several thousand dollar miner for free from them at one point.
I've been involved in Bitcoin since early 2010...back when you could still mine with video cards. In the interest of full transparency I put about 10 BTC into the Neucoin presale. It might be gone now, but I was aware of the risk going in.
Honestly I don't think Neucoin is a scam. They went to a lot of trouble to be appear very professional, and in the whole grand scheme of things didn't take in that much money to justify everything it appears they did. The "scam", if there is one, could come as a pump and dump. But a lot of things are pumped, especially in crypto, and I'm not against riding a pump and dump for some quick profits. I've done that with a few other coins and generally have sold profitably, but much earlier than I should have.
e.g., Gawminers was obviously a scam from the beginning, and by the time Paycoin came along I really couldn't understand why people were still engaged. I bought some equipment early on from Gawminers. I received it, but was very skeptical about how they ran their business and pretty quickly stopped buying from them. I actually got a several thousand dollar miner for free from them at one point.
Should I make a business here. I could ask for btc from offenders before posting details? |
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Do you know which wallet you use?
(not address, wallet)
Was this your first Bitcoin transaction ever?
Do you have other bitcoin, are they missing?
Have you tried sending since this purchase?
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Thanks for spending a little over 10 minutes here. Wondering if you will ever log in again.
I've never used Local Bitcoin, so not sure how it works.
You may have lost your btc, but you may not have.
I have seen a very similar thing with a Local bitcoin transaction.
A "friend" told me he had purchased on Local Bitcoin, and told me his address.
When I checked the balance of that address on blockchain it was zero.
(seem very much like your situation)
However, he was able to send the purchased Bitcoin to a paper wallet.
(i did not investigate where he went wrong, but he did still control his bitcoin. i presumed he did not know how to understand his wallet/localbitcoin correctly. i presume you are also inexperienced in bitcoin?)
You have said customer service have said it was your mistake.
Your mistake may only be that you don't realise you own this 14zpdrA1dh44AW1yXX2dx5PBiQojVyy4s6 address also.
The balance of 2.9btc is still in 14zpdrA1dh44AW1yXX2dx5PBiQojVyy4s6. (5 days)
Have you tried sending bitcoin from your wallet?
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As others have mentioned these sorts of threads pop up every week or so and it gets tiring responding to the same question over and over. We're currently discussing ways to combat spam but can't really make any big changes without admin input but most of us agree those sort of shit threads mentioned in the op should be locked and probably will be.
I stole this..
You know whats tiring? People who just barely read the OP and then proceed to click the "reply" button meanwhile ignoring 6 pages in between OP and your own reply. Not sure what Milkduds point is here. Interesting that we didnt get a single input from a staff member. They might have given up on this one :S
As others have mentioned these sorts of threads pop up every week or so and it gets tiring responding to the same question over and over. We're currently discussing ways to combat spam but can't really make any big changes without admin input but most of us agree those sort of shit threads mentioned in the op should be locked and probably will be. |
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jonnyjash Out of 85 posts (in 6 days as a member), 14 posts just "agree." These are the 14 entire posts. (not snipped, his dots) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=885862;sa=showPosts;start=0i secondly that this... great idea...good one. This is a great idea.. Nice one.. Loving it. Good work...nice one,loving it. I absolutely agree that I absolutely agree with you I absolutely agree with you I secondly agree with you i absolutely agree with you.. i absolutely secondly agree with you i absolutely second that I absolutely second agree i absolutely secondly agree.. i absolutely secondly that... This is copy/paste, or just copy/copy, or just shitposting spam? Anyone absolutely secondly agree with that? |
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