You're all a bunch off kiddos with no brain. Gosh.....every crypto will be destroyed. There was so many promising coins and now even bitbay is going to an end.....
promising coins. L O L Only thing promising in crypto is pump & dump. Rest is fairytale. Haha true. Everyone knew this was a pump and dump scam. No one is innocent. You're all responsible for your losses. Why don't you people learn from your mistakes ? Do you know how long it took me to identify the scam ? One second, in one click : https://github.com/Bitbaydev/bitbay "page not found" There is no github, there is no code, there is no devs, there is no BitBay. Greed is a bitch. I like how people complain about p&d but in core of their heart they're begging for someone to pump the price so they can run away with profit. Truth is I never invested in Bay to make profit. I bought because I was interested in marketplace and still am unless someone comes out and tell me that plan has changed. I have around 100k worth of products that I'm looking to dump in marketplace once it's launched. Keeping my fingers crossed and time will tell the rest. Why wait for pie-in-the-sky Bitbay when there's already things like OpenBazaar, NXT Freemarket ect? |
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So nice to have trolls around.
I've had my eyes on Boolberry for months now out of all CryptoNote currencies it's the best out there with a real chance of achieving success. oh  I'm a troll right! btw you make it Doged 3 compulsive liers 0. So where's the whitepaper? |
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i don't quite understand how BBR's involvement in it is supposed to bring up the value. is that discussed in the thread? i might also just be failing to understand something fundamental about what superNET is and does... @_@ i've scanned through the original post in that thread several times, read some news articles and a bit of the prospectus and still don't think i really get where each (any) coin fits into the network. economics is not my strong suit at all and it seems like most of the documentation takes for granted familiarity with a whole slew of concepts in order to accept its premise. is there no FAQ or such like for simpletons like me?  For people who want full anonymity right down to the network level Teleport(network level anonymity) and BBR(unlinkable inputs and outputs) is the solution. And the only way to use those two technologies together is via SuperNET. So BBR is a critical piece of the privacy puzzle. And SuperNET itself is a massive project to increase adoption of currencies. In fact ~$100k was just budgeted for marketing to start off 2015. BBR being a core part of SuperNET is a big deal. I myself am working on a SuperNET related project that will target real world use and I hope to be able to include BBR in my plans as well. SuperNET intends to grow a large user base and as a result of that BBR should gain users as well since it is quite good itself. When BBR is such an important player in SuperNET, why then is nobody trading it? To me the coin has fallen into coma. Probably because only a handful of people actually know how important BBR is to SuperNET. Or even know about SuperNET at all for that matter. Even with people who are involved in SuperNET I don't think too many people are really familiar with BBR. Sure jl777 and some other people are big BBR supporters, but SuperNET the SuperNET slack has 259 people right now and I would guess that most of them only know BBR by name. Even just reading around the alt boards here you always here people dismissing Monero due to the 'blockchain bloat', yet no one even mentions the fact that BBR has already implemented their own blockchain reduction tech. TL;DR: I doubt many people really know much about BBR yet. |
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Lots of interesting assets on the NXT AE.
More people should consider researching assets as opposed to burning their money on all these new altcoin scams.
With assets there's a path to profitability and dividends, where as with most altcoins the only thing they end up as is a pump and dump(if anything at all).
It would be good to see all the developers and designers here that currently waste their time on alts instead put their talents towards building real businesses that can be funded by investors.
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Well NXT is the obvious choice if we're going to talk about tech that exists today and has been working well for over a year now.
Ethereum will be interesting. I just read that NXT has smart contract tech going on as well so there will likely be some interesting comparisons to be made between their different implementations.
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i don't quite understand how BBR's involvement in it is supposed to bring up the value. is that discussed in the thread? i might also just be failing to understand something fundamental about what superNET is and does... @_@ i've scanned through the original post in that thread several times, read some news articles and a bit of the prospectus and still don't think i really get where each (any) coin fits into the network. economics is not my strong suit at all and it seems like most of the documentation takes for granted familiarity with a whole slew of concepts in order to accept its premise. is there no FAQ or such like for simpletons like me? For people who want full anonymity right down to the network level Teleport(network level anonymity) and BBR(unlinkable inputs and outputs) is the solution. And the only way to use those two technologies together is via SuperNET. So BBR is a critical piece of the privacy puzzle. And SuperNET itself is a massive project to increase adoption of currencies. In fact ~$100k was just budgeted for marketing to start off 2015. BBR being a core part of SuperNET is a big deal. I myself am working on a SuperNET related project that will target real world use and I hope to be able to include BBR in my plans as well. SuperNET intends to grow a large user base and as a result of that BBR should gain users as well since it is quite good itself. |
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Considering all the valuable projects going on, I believe that 2015 will be the Year of the Crypto
same thing people said about 2014 And they were right. But it seems will be 2015 also year of Crypto and 2016 again. Maybe will last many years before there will be year of something new. They were right too, you're right about that. Bitcoin has had an incredible year now topped off with the Microsoft thing. And then we have all these interesting projects going on in the alt world too. The only thing that didn't happen for Bitcoin is the price. But other than that things are pretty good. It's just a question of how people are going to generate demand for things like BTC and XMR. |
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NXT seems to be really underrated. It's a year old and appears to be quite solid.
People seem to have this weird dismissal type attitude towards NXT and I don't quite understand why that is.
Also, if you look at how much trading volume there's been over the year, and how many people there are now who use NXT the distribution has likely become actually pretty decent. If not much better than most.
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Poloniex? YUCK!! Don't you have to constantly refresh the page just to see all the latest chart movements?
No. Maybe you're thinking of another site? |
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I'm not usually interested in altcoins myself, but I can see how people can enjoy them. Most altcoin "investing" is a lot like gambling. I can see how trying to navigate and manipulate these tiny markets could be fun for a lot of people. These pump-and-dump altcoins aren't really competitors to Bitcoin: they're really a way of using your bitcoins to gamble. There are also a handful of technologically interesting altcoins like Monero, which I think are very useful for testing new ideas that might one day be incorporated into Bitcoin.
Even theymos finds Monero interesting  Totally deluding himself if he thinks that Bitcoin even has a chance of integrating CN tech. |
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I wouldn't worry at all about Poloniex. They are the most trustworthy exchange in my opinion and I don't think there's much competition for that title.
Just submit a ticket or go on IRC and get some assistance. They always come through. They even fully paid back people from when the security issue back earlier this year. How often have you seen that happen? Most of the time in this space people just disappear.
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Why SuperNET is not listed @trex??
Good point. Who has a contact there? bittrex doesnt like crypto 2.0 thats why they dont list them They listed BLOCK... Like James said BLOCK is just a random PoS clone coin so there's no special tech involved at all. I think they're planning on eventually swapping it out for tokens on the NHZ asset exchange I guess. And then they'll be in the same position as UNITY is. |
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There's simply no reason for the average individual to switch over from a centralized payment system.
I think there is a big need for an instant, no fee, transfer to anyone at anytime p2p payment system, just none exists in any meaningful way yet. Agreed. Maybe on an international scale, but a lot of countries have interbank domestic transfers already instant and free. It actually really makes Bitcoin look worse in a country where you can just send money to your friends that way. Bitcoin would have been better had it come out a few years before it did. Probably would have had a much better chance of being mainstream by now. |
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This is like 'Anonymint' all over again.
It is Anonymint. How can you be sure?  He's had to make new accounts because the Anonymint account was made inaccessible on purpose. |
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not many people actually think that bitcoin will defeat FIAT.
FIAT is nearly dead all by itself, leaving people to voluntarily move over to bitcoin. without bitcoin even having to try defeating fiat
There we go. I agree with his opinion. This is like 'Anonymint' all over again. It is Anonymint. |
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Andrew Poelstra says: "The paper will describe some new cryptographic primitives which could be used in a blockchain to avoid explicit linkage between transactions. It certainly does not describe or advocate how to implement such things in Bitcoin. Indeed, this would dramatically change the efficiency and privacy properties of Bitcoin in ways that would be unacceptable to many existing users." http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2oh7vq/toward_unlinkable_bitcoin_transactions_andrew/cmn952nIf Maxwell and Poelstra are a) interested enough in CN tech to start writing a paper on it, and b) they realize CN tech has almost no chance of being implemented in bitcoin, then maybe they'll start directly working on the best CN coin around.  Pretty sure they've already been working on it on some level as independent contractors/consultants. Just not publicly(pseudonyms maybe for ethical reasons?). And even if they haven't done any actual 'work' related to CN stuff they' appear to have taken an academic interest in the tech months ago. |
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Interesting how they paid homage to Bytecoin there. While the respect for the technology is there, after the premine scam I don't think they deserve to have such things named after them. |
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Lots of great info there once again, thanks for the update.  |
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Well, I for one am okay with it being closed source until promised functionality was delivered. That's the little tidbit of info that is missing here. In fact, originally, Qora was not to be traded until all features were implemented, but you know how us crypto'ers are, "Gimme my coins", "Let's get on an exchange" and so on.
Qora himself stated it would be unwise to trade until he had a product he was proud to present to the community that contained his promised functionality, but the community did not listen.
Interesting that it happened this way. Qora was definitely right about not having it on the open market until it was ready I think. IPO buyers probably left a ton of money on the table there by getting greedy and impatient. Good to hear that it's finally coming out though. |
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