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1181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: 0.2 FEE!!!! ? am i missing something? on: August 11, 2014, 10:56:32 AM
It's not known who controls it so it's probably meant to be as anonymous as they can be. Revealing their identity to give someone's 0.2 back is probably not going to happen.
1182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: August 11, 2014, 10:46:11 AM
Or lite coin will sky jump.

Seems like doge and lite will merge or they will create new coin.

http://www.virtfund.com/news-and-analysis/doge-may-soon-allow-merge-mining-with-litecoin


Merge mining != new coin

It's just a way for Doge to protect its falling hash rate.
1183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: August 11, 2014, 08:17:54 AM
It got really quiet in this thread. Did I say something sufficiently offensive, shocking, or motivational?  Embarrassed

Haven't you heard that the Malla Summer Retreat is ongoing?  Shocked

The real question is why isn't he there. You could get him drunk and he might divulge all his secret crypto plans that he's alluded to.

September perhaps? Tongue
1184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ORA:: Bounty discussion thread on: August 11, 2014, 06:13:21 AM
I know this is very early to suggest this, but it came into my mind. Can we form a group of people interested in making a research or analysis on how anyone in the world could convert fiat into any crypto/ora? Not talking about exchanges but other getaways and options. Prepaid cards, atm cards etc. Probably we can study and build a road map on this. This will not only benefit ora but also any other crypto. Not only talking about us or europe but how a person from any part of world can get an access into crypto world. What you guys think?

I'm interested in this. I'm working on Bitmark right now but we're very interested in making it an easy to use currency. So that type of real life purchase case research is of great interest to our project and perhaps we can share things we learn about this type of thing.

I'm in Asia and there are tons and tons of prepaid cards for all kinds of products. Being able to buy a prepaid card that can get you crypto would be amazing and be a huge step for adoption!

Is anyone else in the btt community working on this already? Probably you and me can jumpstart this project?
I know this is very early to suggest this, but it came into my mind. Can we form a group of people interested in making a research or analysis on how anyone in the world could convert fiat into any crypto/ora? Not talking about exchanges but other getaways and options. Prepaid cards, atm cards etc. Probably we can study and build a road map on this. This will not only benefit ora but also any other crypto. Not only talking about us or europe but how a person from any part of world can get an access into crypto world. What you guys think?

I'm interested in this. I'm working on Bitmark right now but we're very interested in making it an easy to use currency. So that type of real life purchase case research is of great interest to our project and perhaps we can share things we learn about this type of thing.

I'm in Asia and there are tons and tons of prepaid cards for all kinds of products. Being able to buy a prepaid card that can get you crypto would be amazing and be a huge step for adoption!

Is anyone else in the btt community working on this already? Probably you and me can jumpstart this project?

Not sure if anyone else has explored the idea yet but I also posted this in the Bitmark thread to see if anyone else was interested in looking into it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=660544.msg8290286#msg8290286
1185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: August 11, 2014, 06:11:59 AM
Anyone interested in exploring the idea of having prepaid cards that contain access to cryptocurrenies? The idea came up in an ORA thread which is a separate PoS project but it's an interesting area to research as it can be mutually beneficial.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=718077.msg8279931#msg8279931

Eventually having people able to buy Marks/BTM in a shop would be quite good for adoption I think so it's something worth looking into.
1186  Economy / Economics / Re: Would u pay in bitcoin? on: August 10, 2014, 07:20:21 PM
Even if that holds true, this is changing everyday. I don't know when you started getting into bitcoin, but basically years ago it  was 100 times harder to get btc.

The biggest improvement in my opinion has been localbitcoins. Gox was the orginial "easy" way to get BTC and for people into Bitcoin it was good compared to p2p paypal or cash in the mail. But hopefully things continue to get better as time goes on.
1187  Economy / Economics / Re: Would u pay in bitcoin? on: August 10, 2014, 06:41:12 PM



Or are you considering international purchases? 

My OP was made because i was selling a bike on gumtree for $150 i think but also said half price if paying in bitcoin just to see what interest i got from it, not one person wanted to pay in bitcoin but everybody asked "what is it"? Some researched it and came back saying it just looked to hard for them to bother with. I know its not that easy to begin with and it made me think with all the money being put in to bitcoin why is it still not easy for the average joe?

Wow. I'm actually surprised no one took you up on that offer in order to save $75.

That really speaks volumes about the state of Bitcoin usability.

"speaks volumes" really? Do you know the term samplesize?

A real use case example with multiple people expressing interest and not a single person being able to take him up on his offer says a lot.

I'm not trying to make a statistical inference here. The fact that no one was able or willing to google 'buy bitcoin', buy some, and buy the guys bike and save 50% is not an ideal situation is it?

I would love to see a similar experiment repeated on a larger scale to gather more data. But in the mean time his original point of bitcoin not being easy to use for the average Joe holds true, does it not?

I bet you would be more successful offering a 10% discount than 50%.

If you first hear about bitcoin and someone offers you a 50% discount out of the blue, wouldn't you be skeptical? Like: what is his angle, what does he gain by that?

Many shops that offered BTC with discount had many inquiries from Bitcoin newbs. There is interest there, but not on a random craigslist site...

The interest might be there, and it seemed to be with the bicycle sale since he said everyone was asking about it. But it's still not easy to buy and use for average people unfortunately.
1188  Economy / Economics / Re: Would u pay in bitcoin? on: August 10, 2014, 05:08:25 PM



Or are you considering international purchases? 

My OP was made because i was selling a bike on gumtree for $150 i think but also said half price if paying in bitcoin just to see what interest i got from it, not one person wanted to pay in bitcoin but everybody asked "what is it"? Some researched it and came back saying it just looked to hard for them to bother with. I know its not that easy to begin with and it made me think with all the money being put in to bitcoin why is it still not easy for the average joe?

Wow. I'm actually surprised no one took you up on that offer in order to save $75.

That really speaks volumes about the state of Bitcoin usability.

"speaks volumes" really? Do you know the term samplesize?

A real use case example with multiple people expressing interest and not a single person being able to take him up on his offer says a lot.

I'm not trying to make a statistical inference here. The fact that no one was able or willing to google 'buy bitcoin', buy some, and buy the guys bike and save 50% is not an ideal situation is it?

I would love to see a similar experiment repeated on a larger scale to gather more data. But in the mean time his original point of bitcoin not being easy to use for the average Joe holds true, does it not?
1189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA::100% POS|Qora Clone|Free & Fair distribution|issued NXT AE ASAP on: August 10, 2014, 03:10:25 PM
Don't understand why you are so adamant on distributing free stakes to people who have no interest in ORA.

If 3k was the initial target you should have waited for it before distributing stakes and having a market price established.

Again, by topping up all current stakeholders accounts, or burning the rest of the assets, everything stays the same as it is now. The value of stakeholders accounts remains the same.

Releasing new ORA onto a market that has already been established is kin to the US GOV printing money using it themselves and making everyone else pay for it via inflation.

 Huh

ORA distribution option: Megashira1 - version 2

1. Burn the remaining assets
2. POS Block Rewards

 



Has someone suggested them auctioning off some stakes to fund development? If they raise a decent amount of BTC maybe they can hire someone or some people to work with nioccoin.
1190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ORA:: Bounty discussion thread on: August 10, 2014, 03:06:41 PM
I know this is very early to suggest this, but it came into my mind. Can we form a group of people interested in making a research or analysis on how anyone in the world could convert fiat into any crypto/ora? Not talking about exchanges but other getaways and options. Prepaid cards, atm cards etc. Probably we can study and build a road map on this. This will not only benefit ora but also any other crypto. Not only talking about us or europe but how a person from any part of world can get an access into crypto world. What you guys think?

I'm interested in this. I'm working on Bitmark right now but we're very interested in making it an easy to use currency. So that type of real life purchase case research is of great interest to our project and perhaps we can share things we learn about this type of thing.

I'm in Asia and there are tons and tons of prepaid cards for all kinds of products. Being able to buy a prepaid card that can get you crypto would be amazing and be a huge step for adoption!
1191  Economy / Economics / Re: Would u pay in bitcoin? on: August 10, 2014, 02:59:26 PM



Or are you considering international purchases? 

My OP was made because i was selling a bike on gumtree for $150 i think but also said half price if paying in bitcoin just to see what interest i got from it, not one person wanted to pay in bitcoin but everybody asked "what is it"? Some researched it and came back saying it just looked to hard for them to bother with. I know its not that easy to begin with and it made me think with all the money being put in to bitcoin why is it still not easy for the average joe?

Wow. I'm actually surprised no one took you up on that offer in order to save $75.

That really speaks volumes about the state of Bitcoin usability.
1192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: August 10, 2014, 02:46:05 PM
Perhaps not so nice.  It's a multipool.  I notice the pool is paying out on around 120 confirms.  Brave move by the pool op.  And how long BTM stays at 124% of LTC is debatable when the multipool dumps.  A multipool is not like us, taking a long term view. They'll dump ASAP, whatever the price.

Coin added to mining pool hash-to-coins.com



Another pool, nice. Smiley

And I can see that according to the stats there mining BTM is 24% more profitable than LTC and pretty much the most profitable coin to mine out of all those scrypt coins! The only one high is FRK which sounds like Franko and I don't know if that's still active or not.

Sorry. Block maturity fixed to 721
And this is not necessary to use autoswitching. You can set any coin for your workers to mine.

Do you auto sell to BTC on behalf of the workers on autoswitch like coinking? It doesn't look like it but I'm not sure and I'm curious. Smiley

I was just saying to medic in IRC that it's probably a good thing because we might get some interest from miners who were not aware of Bitmark before seeing it on the auto switcher.

We do not convert coins into BTC.

Our pool is not typical autoswitcher. User has ability to set up single coin or autoswitch mode for every worker. Sometimes more than 50% users perform single coin mining.

Sounds good. I can see that there are quite a few different coins being mined right now from your stats listed on the page. Smiley
1193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: August 10, 2014, 01:48:21 PM
Perhaps not so nice.  It's a multipool.  I notice the pool is paying out on around 120 confirms.  Brave move by the pool op.  And how long BTM stays at 124% of LTC is debatable when the multipool dumps.  A multipool is not like us, taking a long term view. They'll dump ASAP, whatever the price.

Coin added to mining pool hash-to-coins.com



Another pool, nice. Smiley

And I can see that according to the stats there mining BTM is 24% more profitable than LTC and pretty much the most profitable coin to mine out of all those scrypt coins! The only one high is FRK which sounds like Franko and I don't know if that's still active or not.

Sorry. Block maturity fixed to 721
And this is not necessary to use autoswitching. You can set any coin for your workers to mine.

Do you auto sell to BTC on behalf of the workers on autoswitch like coinking? It doesn't look like it but I'm not sure and I'm curious. Smiley

I was just saying to medic in IRC that it's probably a good thing because we might get some interest from miners who were not aware of Bitmark before seeing it on the auto switcher.
1194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: August 10, 2014, 01:17:45 PM
Litecoin holders don't control anything. Miners are the ones who are in control in PoW cryptos.

I think even the idea that Litecoin should be improved is offensive to Litecoiners. Maybe their logic is: "we got this far doing nothing, it would be wrong to mess with a good thing!".


That is exactly what most of them seem to think.

There are like one or two people in the Litecoin community trying to actually get something going. But no one seems to care unfortunately. Sad

yes ,I think the same thing that you think  Undecided .

Truer than you think. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" becomes more compelling the more valuable 'it' is. That's why so may formerly hot innovative companies wind up losing their market dominance and flounder around before being humbled by a changing marketplace. They're mind-locked into their formerly market-dominant 'it.' Cases in point: RIM/Blackberry, Nokia.

But not in all cases, interestingly enough. Look at all the complaints over the years about Microsoft, a company that just keeps chuggin' along.

Microsoft has been trying desperately to keep up though. Cloud services, Windows Mobile, tablets ect. Even though they haven't been too successful recently they are trying to stay relevant.
1195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmark on: August 10, 2014, 01:14:00 PM
Perhaps not so nice.  It's a multipool.  I notice the pool is paying out on around 120 confirms.  Brave move by the pool op.  And how long BTM stays at 124% of LTC is debatable when the multipool dumps.  A multipool is not like us, taking a long term view. They'll dump ASAP, whatever the price.

Coin added to mining pool hash-to-coins.com



Another pool, nice. Smiley

And I can see that according to the stats there mining BTM is 24% more profitable than LTC and pretty much the most profitable coin to mine out of all those scrypt coins! The only one high is FRK which sounds like Franko and I don't know if that's still active or not.


this thing with multipool not so nice....

It's on BTM now and it's around 340 MH. Nothing that's going to cause any problems from what I can tell.
1196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: August 10, 2014, 09:55:15 AM
The once first altcoin, its just another altcoin.

Litecoin was just a clone of another altcoin if I remember correcly. Tenebrix/Fairbrix I think.
1197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The most Overused Words in Bitcoin History on: August 10, 2014, 08:19:17 AM
Definitely HODL. Why the hell is it spelt like that anyway? How did it start out. Is it the name of a character in a movie or something?

There's a thread in the speculation subforum where someone misspelled hold in the title and it caught on from there.
1198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: August 10, 2014, 07:58:36 AM
https://github.com/jl777/privateNXT

So is this just a vanilla CryptoNote fork? What does it have to do with NXT? How is this implementing ring signatures in to NXT?

Or is it just the same type of thing that's happening with "BitcoinDark"? Name the product after something established to imply association?
1199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: August 10, 2014, 07:52:12 AM
Litecoin holders don't control anything. Miners are the ones who are in control in PoW cryptos.

I think even the idea that Litecoin should be improved is offensive to Litecoiners. Maybe their logic is: "we got this far doing nothing, it would be wrong to mess with a good thing!".


That is exactly what most of them seem to think.

There are like one or two people in the Litecoin community trying to actually get something going. But no one seems to care unfortunately. Sad
1200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: August 10, 2014, 06:51:55 AM
It is altcoin.

Hehe now I know you are probably immersed in coding, because you dropped the 'an' as I often drop words that I read in my head by forget to type, because I am distracted.

BTCD is Bitcoin Dark. I suspect (it, hehe) is CoinJoin. Haven't bothered to look closely.

Not coinjoin: https://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0G9JRRFF/jl777-Teleport-DarkPaper.doc_links

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.0

and

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.740

That coin Bitcoindark, doesn't have any privacy features, they plan to copy off of Cryptonote(doubt they will even do that, everything theyve said has just been hot air) , the following is a quite from one of the dev team members for Bitcoindark from the second link

"I am part of BTCD community now and I happen to be developing a cryptonote fork to add anon features to NXT. It turns out that my methods should apply to BTCD also. I will be working on integrating cryptonote tech into BTCD, but it is more than "just" cryptonote anon tech as I am also making my solution include a near realtime exchange (InstantDEX) so people can directly trade just by running the coin."



Not using cryptonote and not hot air. Read the paper before commenting please.

https://github.com/jl777/pNXT

I assume when he says "cryptonote tech" he means ring signatures. But he also says that he's developing a "cryptonote fork" that will add anon features to NXT??? I'm not an expert but isn't that like saying I'm developing a XCN fork that will add a mini-blockchain to Bitcoin? It just doesn't work like that, right? I'm confused.
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