They just copied the text from the KNC page, hence the mention of third batch.
It clearly states "KnC Neptune 3.3TH Bitcoin Miner *In Stock Now*" and "Batch 0" on the page.
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Hey all, just now i received my order for 2 batch 2 neptunes paid jan 11 order 176xx wanted to give you all a heads up on knc progress.
I have a question regarding the ethernet cable each controller board requires..are there any ethernet cables that can hook up 2 controller boards to one router..i guess sort of like the pcie Y cables people have been purchasing on this thread? Sorry for noob question***
Thank you
If you don't have enough ports on your existing router, you just need to buy a switch, they come in various sizes, you'll only need a 4-5 port one and they are cheap something like this... http://www.ebuyer.com/259797-tp-link-tl-sf1005d-5-port-10-100-switch-tl-sf1005d
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If you like blinking lights, you definately need some Antminer S1's they have green red and yellow leds and the green ones flash really quickly £75 posted, cheaper if you want a few
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So in the case of the EVGA I posted the link to is has one +12V rail at 108A. So will that be enough?
The EVGA's are fine, I run my neptune with 2 of them. 1 powers 3 cubes, the other 2 cubes and controller. The only think I would suggest is to buy some replacement 16awg cables as the standard ones were running a lot hotter than I was comfortable with (the 30cm are too short IMHO I got 45cm ones) http://www.shakmods.com/shop&&#!/~/product/category=3316088&id=37642162
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... The hardware manufacturers currently are not able to keep up with the increasing difficulty, and without a miracle it pretty much means the end of private mining. This may seem pessimistic and there may be new opportunities with tech <20nm but it really depends on the manufacturers' strategies, because if it stays the norm to keep customers waiting while mining the hell out of new units themselves till difficulty kills the opportunity for the customer to reach a positive ROI again, nothing is going to change.
I really was that close to hit the order button on a couple of S3+, but now I'm just going to watch the BTC value, buy a few BTC for hodling when it feels right, and wait for new hardware to be announced (which most likely is not going to happen this year).
Some very good points well made. Sadly I don't see the situation changing, it's such a skewed equation at the moment with all the profit going to manufacturers and all the risk going to customers. I don't think there is a single piece of hardware out there now that will generate a profit for the average miner. We all know due to the frequent price drops that manufacturers could lower the price and allow both parties to make some money, but until people stop buying overpriced hardware they aren't likely to change the way they work (and I can't say I blame them)
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It basically gives you the option of receiving an 18% cash refund or a 21% voucher, according to your payment amount.
Miners ordered after a certain date get a 25% refund or slighlty higher voucher, afaik. (as the hashrate was then advertised as 6Th)
Don't think the 2nd sentence is accurate. Further to my post a couple of pages back and an email to Spondoolies I bought when it was 6-6.5TH and was told they understood but the 18%/21% was the best they would do.
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plus a one-time installation fee of $100 per miner.
DAMN! That's gonna cost! How many miners per 100 kW? SP30 for instance runs at 3KW ... so you are charging $3300 to hook them up Could be worse, when I was deciding who to go with there was less choice in this thread and it was between Michigan Colo and Advania Rich at MichCoLo said no charge to install and advania wanted $200 A MACHINE which is... what's the phrase....taking the piss. So no brainer who I picked and I've been very happy with my choice they have been excellent and are now hosting several machines for me with more on the way. If I was looking at "starting a hosting relationship" that wouldn't include rip off set up fees. * I could of course be completely wrong and it may be a lot more complicated that I think to set machines up, so feel free to justify the cost, but be prepared for me to counter with the fact that 20 minutes after my machines were signed for they were all online.
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I can only echo others comments, without doubt one of the best looking miners out there, but at that w/GH rate you are competing with the dragons that are $999 $829, and no amount of style is worth the extra.
In fact the new dragons are only $80 dearer, are 400GH faster and significantly better on w/GH
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OK, so I've finally received my compensation offer, cutting it a bit close for me to make a decision as they have started shipping. The offer is an 18% refund, which is the difference between the 5.5TH they were originally offered as and the 4.5TH. However I decided to jump on the group buy AFTER you posted the following because the increase in hashrate made it a much better deal and you were supremely confident of meeting your targets. The SP30 will be able to produce over 6 THs. Probably over 6.5 THs with 2700 Watt (2 X 1200 rated PSUs, each PSU is able to input 1350 Watt)
I think therefore the refund should be based on the rate you were advertising at the time of purchase, which in my case is around 30%. When the drop in hashrate was announced in this thread, I said a couple of posts later that although the offer of compensation was good, I urged you to consider the fact that the power consumption figures were also way out and that this should also be reflected in the offer we received. It's sad to see you have decided to ignore this part of the failure.
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Whilst BFL would get star billing, it would surely just be a list of every hardware company out there.
Even some of the more reputable ones with decent customer service who actually ship are just selling machines that will lose you btc, or they are pre-orders where the buyer takes ALL the risk with a miniscule chance of profit whilst the manufacturer rakes in huge sums.
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hosting can never be as good as owning your own, the hosting people need eat also. business electric is 11p a unit, better yet is a diesel generator it will get it down to a penny a unit or less.
If you do the sums its a no brainer to send miners abroad (when subject to vat). Business electric is around 11p + VAT + CCL those add quite a bit. Hosters usually have MUCH cheaper electric that offsets the hosting cost. Let's use an S3 as an example over 6 months UK Miner £180.00 Import Duty £36.00 Electric (182 days at £1.30) = £236.60 Total £452.60 USA Miner $295.00 Import Duty $0.00 Hosting (6 months at $75) = $450 Total $745.00 = £450.00 So there is not a lot in it, but if you run a few machines you have to start thinking about cooling, and office space, and rent and rates etc etc none of which are a factor when hosting. The diesel generator sounds like fun though
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One still can buy or farm accounts to scam. It will only, maybe, remove obvious scams that people do only because the nothing to lose factor, but the most sophisticated ones still will be around.
I don't dispute that, they'll never be gone completely I'm just trying to reduce the volume with a simple fix. The overwhelming majority of the ones I see are users with 1 activity, 1 post.
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I appreciate that the mods don't have the time to remove the scam posts from these sections, but it would sure reduce the clutter and volume of them if users needed a minimum activity level before being allowed to post.
It's common amongst many of the other forums I browse, and it's already included in the forum software so it's not even a lot of work to implement.
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Thanks for your input, but let's keep this thread is for questions and bids. If you want to make a negative comment, please just PM me. BTW, KNC is selling Neptunes for 6k and they don't even have any to ship.
He's just trying to tell you that your opening bid is so high that it's a waste of time having this thread. I know it sucks, I'm a neptune owner as well but the fact is we got robbed and it's NEVER going to sell at that price. In stock neptunes can be bought from a USA vendor for £4299, sorry I understand. BUT, £4299 = $7,127 which is $600 more than my starting bid. It was a typo, used to typing £ as I'm in the UK. In stock neptunes can be bought from a USA vendor for $4299, sorry
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Thanks for your input, but let's keep this thread is for questions and bids. If you want to make a negative comment, please just PM me. BTW, KNC is selling Neptunes for 6k and they don't even have any to ship.
He's just trying to tell you that your opening bid is so high that it's a waste of time having this thread. I know it sucks, I'm a neptune owner as well but the fact is we got robbed and it's NEVER going to sell at that price. In stock neptunes can be bought from a USA vendor for £4299, sorry
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Does the price include shipping?
This rather important question still needs answering !!! I'd be tempted to buy a few, but as you are new and the only feedback you have in your trust profile isn't good, would you be willing to accept escrow, building up some sales with escrow from established members can only improve future sales. No escrow. before we accept paypal. now only bitcoin and bank transfer Because WE have one buyer buy 2 miner from us by paypal 3 month ago. and now they use the excuse quality no match to return all the cost. because they use credit card. bank can directly refund them. So never third party payment any more! The point of escrow is to protect both parties so I can't do what is described above and ensure you send what I pay for, but it's your choice will buy from pcfli instead.
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Does the price include shipping?
This rather important question still needs answering !!! I'd be tempted to buy a few, but as you are new and the only feedback you have in your trust profile isn't good, would you be willing to accept escrow, building up some sales with escrow from established members can only improve future sales.
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3 sold pending collection and collected. 14 still available.
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What's your price posted to Bristol for 1 unit ?
I will then multiply that price for the units i want should i want any dependent on your price. Thanks Mark
As above would want £90 for one including shipping, but I'd take less if you wanted more. Give me a number you are interested in and I'll come up with a price I'm heading out now so it will probably be tomorrow before I reply.
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What's your price per device without PSU?
Hard to judge the price, none have sold recently in the UK on here that's why I put offers. Lots seem to be selling on ebay for £100 but I appreciate prices there are more and I'd rather not deal with ebay unless I have to. It also depends how many you or other people want, obviously the more I sell in one go the better the price. For 1 around £90, more would be less down to say £70 if they all went to one person. That seems reasonable and would get 3.3TH for the same price as 2TH worth of dragons and no taxes to pay
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