Did you request access to the source? They are not open as advertised, granted, but they are also not closed as people seem to assume. I heard of ripple, thought it was cool, had my aha moment, planned a service. Now, to do this properly I had to get the source, so I asked... and now I do have access to the source. I mean, c'mon, you don't have to like it, you don't have to use it, but just asking sometimes takes you a long way.
Doesn't matter - that is not the point. My point is that they are trying to sell their idea to the public while lying about what the idea is really about. I don't care about whether ripple is open or closed. I only care about if it is advertised as such. Now to your point; scammers don't lie, scammers scam. Liars are the ones lying, and while scammers are certainly liars, they are so much more that that. I'm sure you have lied more than once in your life. Heck, I'm almost certain you have lied more than once in the past hour, but that doesn't make you a scammer, does it?
I disagree. When you first lie to get people into your project and then profit from it - that is already scamming, because people lost their funds and their time to use your fake scammy project. That is already scamming. |
|
|
|
Would be much easier to everyone, if anybody will provide compiled binaries for Windows...  Well that surely won't be me. I don't use "legacy technologies from twentieth century" as somebody stated on this forums. |
|
|
|
Open can mean many things. For example all transactions on ripple are publicly available. I'd call that open. You probably want a full open source stack including server software. This is announced, but wasting time of jk here on the forum won't help getting this published faster.
But their page lists a GitHub account (as if that is the source of entire Ripple) and their wiki says that Ripple is COMPLETELY open source and COMPLETELY decentralized, while that is an outright lie. Don't you get my point ? That is a lie. Lying is what scammers do. |
|
|
|
You are lying scamming bastards, that's who you are. Either OpenSource and TRULY decentralize Ripple or you forever will be just that.
I'm really trying to be polite and honest with you, but you are making it extremely difficult.  Why would I make it easy for a scammer to be polite ? So you can win the discussion and convert more people easily to your scammy idea ? |
|
|
|
Lying on your site & wiki that you are OPEN while you are really CLOSED makes you a SCAMMER already. Seriously? You're going to repeat this as if you've never said it before and neither address nor even acknowledge the responses I've already made to this exact same point? Yes, we're not yet as open as you would like us to be. But we are already more open than pretty much every other payment system out there. "We're not yet as open as you would like us to be" - this is bullshit. You are lying scamming bastards, that's who you are. Either OpenSource and TRULY decentralize Ripple or you forever will be just that. |
|
|
|
|
@JoelKatz
You still don't seem to get it, do you ?
Lying on your site & wiki that you are OPEN while you are really CLOSED makes you a SCAMMER already.
What else do you want to add ?
You scammed me, you scammed everybody who was looking for an answer "what is this whole Ripple thing about ?".
|
|
|
|
Bitcoin was not released in a closed source state, and it is not unreasonable to expect competitors to match that.
They aren't really a competition for Bitcoin... |
|
|
|
It is against the people's interests who want XRP to go up (but since you're playing central bank with the currency and how it is offered, not going to happen on a significant scale).
Less account reserve = more XRP in circulation of the economy = inflation.
You just inflated Ripples.
If so, what's your theory for why we did it? Are you just arguing this point because you hate us or are you really committed to this argument? I have another question. If you can inflate XRP at will, what is stopping you from printing additional 200% of current amount of XRP when government "asks" you ? If they offer you a choice: either this or Guantanamo, what will you do ? Will you choose Guantanamo ? Will all of your administrators who control central Ripple servers choose guantanamo ? |
|
|
|
Ripple is still being developed, why demand to see something that's not even finished yet?
I'm actually mad because of their insolent lying, not because of the closed source. If somebody want's to do closed source, that is OK with me - I don't have to use it. But if somebody produces something closed and tries to sell it as Open Source, then something is seriously wrong. |
|
|
|
Ripple will never be open source. Not with major investors sitting at the boardroom table who want to protect their intellectual property.
Their intellectual property won't have much value until Ripple goes open source. Duh. I for one will not trust any "open" currency which is open only in name. I want to have the sources so i can confirm it does what it does. I will not trust a good word from the producer. Lying on their main site & wiki completely crosses out the whole Ripple thing to me. They are not to be trusted if they LIE from day one, damnit ! |
|
|
|
Hey, i was just wondering. Is anybody working on a cluster Bitcoin client yet ?
....
Or maybe perhaps it has already been written, but I didn't notice it ?
You are talking about my product the BOP Enterprise Bitcoin Server  It is modern implementation of a full node that allows running sever instances accessible through an API in form of a load balancing industry standard message Bus. Product launch is in three days in San Jose. Interesting. Website links perhaps ? See you there. I will share more details here thereafter.
Sorry, I am in central Europe currently, no plans of going to the US. . . EDIT:Is that it ? http://bitsofproof.com/ |
|
|
|
So quiet ?
I guess there is nothing like this going on then.
Essentially you have to write the platform for multiple architectures (x86, x64, i686, ARM, etc.) so that you have the ability to work across many systems, This is a valid scenario, but i was thinking more about scaling the Bitcoin architecture by running multiple identical machines so it could handle tens of thousands or even hundereds of thousands transactions per second. Certainly such scenario is not possible with the "single-client-doing-eveything" way. |
|
|
|
So basically the root of the problem is the horrendously flawed TX Fee system itself.
I wouldn't say the system is very flawed. You need to remember that Bitcoin is still highly experimental. You need to wait a few years to get all the features you want. |
|
|
|
SoH, You got your NFTX Client updated! Awesome work.
Any chance you can produce binaries for that ? I swear if someone made public binaries of that client available. It would be adopted as much as the 'Official' client in no time!
NFTF fork won't help you with this. Well, it may help get lower fees, but completely getting rid of fees will probably not be possible. NFTF does enforce fees in all cases except of one. Also, what kind of binaries you want (what system) ? It is pretty easy to create binaries for everything except Windows, as there is little difference between NFTF and mainstream client. If creating binaries for mainstream client will work, so will NFTF. |
|
|
|
 Seriously! How is that at all justified ? Also this  And this  Actually you can spend these, but you need to use RAW Tranasctions API. However I do not recommend doing it if you are unexperienced. You also risk losing the money if you don't include enough fees. Miners might include such transaction in a block, but they might not - it will be forever stuck in a transaction "limbo", unless you resend it with enough fees (which is also complicated). |
|
|
|
|
So quiet ?
I guess there is nothing like this going on then.
|
|
|
|
LIARS, LIARS, LIARS !!
Please do something for me: DIE.
In the two decades that I've discussed everything from politics to religion to philosophy over the Internet with people, I can count on my two hands the number of times I've become convinced that a person was not arguing in good faith. You have joined a very exclusive club. Little explanation: I didn't mean for you to actually "die", but I am pretty damn angry for cheating me this way nevertheless. You are scammers just for the fact of lying on your site & wiki. I hope you realize that. |
|
|
|
@JoelKatz Introduction
Ripple is an open source peer-to-peer payment system. (LIE !!) Ripple lets you easily, cheaply, and safely send money over the Internet to anyone, anywhere in the world. Because Ripple is P2P software, no individual, corporation, or government controls Ripple. Anyone can create a Ripple account. The Ripple network operates through the combined efforts of the copies of the Ripple software that are running all over the world.
Like Bitcoin:
Ripple is an open source, distributed peer-to-peer payment network (LIE !!)
Ripple transactions are irreversible, sent over the Internet, and counterfeit proof (LIE !!)
Ripple uses the same underlying cryptography as Bitcoin (LIE !!)
LIARS, LIARS, LIARS !!Please do something for me: DIE. |
|
|
|
No, but still you are not "open". That one I addressed in the very post you are responding to. Seriously, you want me to do it again? Does not matter how many times you address it, your website suggests that it is "open", while it is not - Lie #1. Also, it suggests it is world's first global payment network, while Bitcoin is the first - Lie #2. Even after reading your wiki it was still clear to me that the software is open. So I think it is manipulative on purpose. |
|
|
|
|
@JoelKatz
Also your website and wiki are manipulative and spreading misinformation.
Before this topic, I was convinced that ripple is completely Open Source (after reading your site & wiki). So i had no problem with Ripple.
Now i know the truth. And i know that ripple sucks.
|
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
