I don't know why you keep posting useless numbers. The correct numbers are 20,909 and 6,897, respectively. had those number when I posted this. 20,909? Bitfunders shows 11,579 shares issued. Where did those additional 9330 shares game from? Never re-created on Bitfunder, were bought back on GLBSE. Hey ,Diablo did you receive my PM ? you just bought some shares from me , isn't ? I received your PM. 690 shares of DMC will get you 63 shares of AM. After you transfer the shares to me on BF, PM me the email address and BTC address you want Friedcat to have. Can I get P-T shares ? ?? I want to get transaction more easy.. You can transfer real AM shares into PT shares, but you'll have to do that on your own. Ok ,I will transfer the shares to you when you issued the dividend for June,but only 558 shares left..I think you just buying some shares from my ask order. |
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I don't know why you keep posting useless numbers. The correct numbers are 20,909 and 6,897, respectively. had those number when I posted this. 20,909? Bitfunders shows 11,579 shares issued. Where did those additional 9330 shares game from? Never re-created on Bitfunder, were bought back on GLBSE. Hey ,Diablo did you receive my PM ? you just bought some shares from me , isn't ? I received your PM. 690 shares of DMC will get you 63 shares of AM. After you transfer the shares to me on BF, PM me the email address and BTC address you want Friedcat to have. Can I get P-T shares ? ?? I want to get transaction more easy.. |
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Higher share price ,partly regard to limited shares in the market...only around 40K shares a trade freely in the exchanges...which represent only 10% of the company, considering to the return, 5 BTC will be eventually get reached....  Haha |
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I know, that's why I've never put a single dollar of fiat money into BTC. And I've made a pretty return to cover the depreciation on my PMB's through investing the dividends into TAT's ASICMINER shares, which I can do on a daily basis with the daily coupons from the PMB's. In doing this, with the ASICMINER price appreciation in recent weeks, I've already covered the returns necessary to completely write off the PMB's. Again, my PMB argument was based on liquidity, not returns. And now I can sell them whenever I want the same way I'd sell used mining hardware...except I don't need to worry about shipping and selling actual hardware.
if you only hold 2-3 BTC ,I believe PMBs can meet what you needs as a liquidity, Apart from DMS mining ,for example PAJKA bond, that daily trading is around couples of BTC, if you invested more than hundred BTC. Think again ,can you sell those contracts without massive loss?? In additional: I am happy you admitted you loss value when your write off your PMBs..Thereby what I suggest isn't wrong ,PMBs isn't something that can get positive return for your money.  I was claim that AM is the only company can invest in one month before, if anyone listen to me , you get 2x your fund by now like what I did. |
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I don't know why you keep posting useless numbers. The correct numbers are 20,909 and 6,897, respectively. had those number when I posted this. 20,909? Bitfunders shows 11,579 shares issued. Where did those additional 9330 shares game from? Never re-created on Bitfunder, were bought back on GLBSE. Hey ,Diablo did you receive my PM ? you just bought some shares from me , isn't ? |
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The length of time for transaction confirmation is already an issue I would think. But I think it is a problem that could eventually be solved with more services. Perhaps by having an escrow service, or third party location, where people can store their BTC and have the coin already confirmed and ready to use so there is no down time? Of course the biggest issue will be security for the company that is holding those coins. For those people with much coin they would not want to leave it there long. Perhaps only put the btc in when you know you are going to spend them. That sort of thing. I am sure this has been discussed somewhere on the board though. These are just my thoughts on this.
Be patient, that sold today would be high chance that can buying back cheaply, based on several mathematics assumptions.... MT.Gox said it will suspend the USD withdraw for two weeks, we are approaching that date...MT.Gox considering as a Price index so far, if they can't back to normal, another panic selling is just ahead....I guess bitstamp will be a victim of MT.Gox , we can get very cheap coins in there by that time.. |
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Well I think it has everything to do with us and Mt. Gox because as I understand it the trust will buy more coins?
At the end of the day those coins have to come from somewhere, and until something better comes along Gox no doubt will be one of its sources.
At this moment I would only say to you wait and see... in addition, I am monitoring to the Global noods of QT clients everyday, it is only around 930 nodes connected to the blockchain everyday...I am worry that once a day the long time need to do a transaction confirmation will also be a hidden risk of BTC and its ability to as a currency... |
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AM valued at 4.5, I assume that DMC will have a big step in this month, personally I am going to contribute this step by my shares. |
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It is not doubt that most people come to BTC is because they think they can get rich on it.(Based on fiats) if the liquidity methods are restricted, which part makes you think 100 millions of USD will be put in ? and the video is prior than MTGOX issues its restriction on the withdraw. Well if the winklevii twins thing happens there will suddenly be no liquidity problems (for investors). That problem will be solved, and suddenly there will be a whole bunch of institutions (not just people) drawn to BTC, because they think it could make their investors rich. They sell their BTC as a trust fund, and that looks like nothing to do with our coins...if they got approve,then it is mean people who buying their coins can instantly cash in or out...but it will be a good mile stone for sure, because it may replace MT.GOX as a new price index.... I will be more than happy , I hate people in MT.GOX, especially those speculators, they look like playing a game like who get sold first and who buy back at lowest, again and again ,those guys creating volatility and destroying the faith of long term investors, and scary potential investors. |
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It is not doubt that most people come to BTC is because they think they can get rich on it.(Based on fiats) if the liquidity methods are restricted, which part makes you think 100 millions of USD will be put in ? and the video is prior than MTGOX issues its restriction on the withdraw. |
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I feel you guys are delusional about the twins plan......They are selling their coins to public to ensure their wealth will not be eaten by the volatility of BTC/USD.
BTC is not a deflation currency, it is inflation currency indeed.
To maintaining current price level , BTC worlds need attracting net in cash flow 3600*365/11347625=11.58% of its market cap. which is above 100 millions USD per year.
Regard to the possibility of government intervention in the future, and cash out executed by those BTC pioneers and the constrains of USD withdraw...
Think again ,price could be maintaining or decreasing...
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I suspect prices are going to go back up tomorrow morning when the Winklevii news gets out.
I am disagree with you ,application does not guarantee to be approve...and in facts, it is other way to shows, twins are want to cash out their BTC, but considering to the fact that the market can't take up those BTC without significant decreasing of its value. |
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Did you press Post too early?
Why ?price is steady falling...but cash out of speculators is not a despairing situations for BTC as it will reducing volatility of the price. |
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Cashing in and out of BTCs is pretty difficult at the moment. The community hasnt come up with a working solution to solve the bottleneck problem.
This might be a good thing. It'll force BTC transactions to remain denominated in BTC. Too many speculators are waiting for cash out~~~ |
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Cashing in and out of BTCs is pretty difficult at the moment. The community hasnt come up with a working solution to solve the bottleneck problem.
So we have got a decentralized currency but the exchanges are very centralized and shut down as soon as the public is giving some attention to BTCs.
Those problems are the underlying condition imo.
Imagine we get a steep ride to 120$ again and big interest is coming back. And then? MtGox will shut down most likely and we get the next panic selling that brings us under 100$ again.
Already under $100 ... |
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So a little bit of digging.... I believe Jutarul will not do this much more. He currently owns 7,500 shares... unless he has his shares under multiple addresses. After this sale, 6,500. I doubt he will bring himself below the 5,000 level of a board member... why would you give up a board seat? So assuming all his shares are in one address he will only have 1,500 shares to sell after this sell off. Looking at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c&lsrp=1#gid=4 I wonder who 1BnkEt2ceoVhnQVrqeAzigcroQ6MVyxFey and 12m9dz42JrwCwLhxuzVMzNs9BXvwxTp3B1 are... Do we know the holding address of... coinlenders? some of the big funds? We should work on identifying who the big shareholders are. I am 1SGvKZibKZyJGzpxwyUo5hR9PSmPyRxKS (swore I was way higher on the list... oh well my ego). Yeay Transparency! I think this address is belong to AM itself... because 94415+94415+47208=24K shares which they same as they stated that they will hold 24K shares .. I just guessing , could be wrong ... |
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When stories spread about people paying off their college loans or tripling their Bitcoins just from buying shares they'll get in.
I've tripled my investment in under 2 months.
For the record, I think anybody who buys shares at current prices (~4.5) is making a bad decision. Why would you consider it a bad decisions with the ridiculous dividends coming in the future? Because daily fluctuations in share prices are already orders of magnitude larger than any dividend payment to date. A BTC0.04 dividend equals a net loss if the shares you bought at BTC4.5 are now selling for BTC4.45. Be quiet...it better be a secret..... |
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It may seem that way...but I seriously believe this guy just did us a massive favour by stabilising the price He may also possibly contributing to another BTC/USD price droop in the future.... |
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When stories spread about people paying off their college loans or tripling their Bitcoins just from buying shares they'll get in.
I've tripled my investment in under 2 months.
For the record, I think anybody who buys shares at current prices (~4.5) is making a bad decision. Why would you consider it a bad decisions with the ridiculous dividends coming in the future? only if some one will buy over your AM shares at this price level in the future, otherwise anything less than 4.5(future selling price+received dividends)=loss |
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