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501  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: coinurl.com considered malware, sites using it are being blocked by chrome. on: July 26, 2013, 01:45:22 PM
I don't use any external analytics software. I analyze visits myself, unless the user has DO NOT TRACK set in their browser.
502  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why nobody's discussing this? on: July 26, 2013, 01:30:42 PM
Transactions should be open and comply with all local laws. Taxes should be paid, because Bitcoin is a currency. Bitcoin is not a tool to avoid the law.

What if the law said it's now illegal to fund, say, Wikileaks?

What if you need to send money to Edward Snowdon but the government declares that you shouldn't as he's an enemy of the state?

Would you want Bitcoin to be able to do that?

Bitcoin is always able to do that. But if the law says so, and a transaction is possible to track, then doing it is illegal and should not be done.

Look, I'm all for less government regulation. I'm a libertarian politically, and I oppose any financial barriers. But Bitcoin is not for circumventing regulation. It's for transacting money across the globe quickly and inexpensively. I oppose any Bitcoin2 project because it tries to do more than that. Anything that tries to accomplish too much will end up accomplishing nothing.
503  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why nobody's discussing this? on: July 26, 2013, 01:40:36 AM
This is the wrong direction. They want to take a currency and change it to a black market. There are plenty of black markets; Bitcoin is not one of them.

Transactions should be open and comply with all local laws. Taxes should be paid, because Bitcoin is a currency. Bitcoin is not a tool to avoid the law.

They can go ahead and start Bitcoin2 if they like. Maybe they'll get Silk Road to join them. But most Bitcoin users want a global, decentralized currency, not a tax haven.
504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Argentina is not going Bitcoin on: July 26, 2013, 01:25:28 AM
Argentina is our fourth largest source of traffic. Currently sitting behind North America, Canada and the UK. 

North America?
505  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Intel on chip CPU SHA256 hashing announced on: July 26, 2013, 01:20:52 AM
So a CPU containing these instructions might produce about 6 Mhps/watt?

Probably far less, but yes, that's the upper bound. However, it's worth mentioning that CPUs are useful for non-mining-related activities, and so suffer less from depreciation than ASICs and GPUs.
506  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Intel on chip CPU SHA256 hashing announced on: July 26, 2013, 01:09:56 AM
It probably isn't very good. A single SHA-256 operation takes 139 instructions; 2 would take at least 278. Peak instruction rate is 177730 MIPS for the best processors, and this won't even approach the peak speed. So the speed would be far less than 600 MHz, which is hardly any better than a high-end GPU.
Is that per processor, or per core?

Per processor. Per core it's probably closer to 30000 MIPS and less than 100 Mhps.
507  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Intel on chip CPU SHA256 hashing announced on: July 26, 2013, 01:02:40 AM
Is anyone who is capable of making an educated guess about how the hash/watt values Intel could achieve with this as compared to current ASICs, and who is willing to be quoted, is invited to send me a PM.

It probably isn't very good. A single SHA-256 operation takes 139 instructions; 2 would take at least 278. Peak instruction rate is 177730 MIPS for the best processors, and this won't even approach the peak speed. So the speed would be far less than 600 MHz, which is hardly any better than a high-end GPU.
508  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Bitcoin Mining Dashboard - The Genesis Block on: July 26, 2013, 12:52:41 AM
I notice you use Mt. Gox prices. While Mt. Gox prices used to be most trustworthy, this is no longer true. It is extremely difficult to get USD out of Mt. Gox; thus, the price on Mt. Gox is inflated because most people convert to BTC in order to withdraw. Using Bitstamp values would be more relevant, as withdrawals from Bitstamp work.

(Note: BTC-E suffers from the opposite problem. It is extremely difficult to get USD in; thus, people deposit BTC more often, so the price is lower than what it should be.)
509  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Intel on chip CPU SHA256 hashing announced on: July 26, 2013, 12:42:05 AM
...so CPU mining makes an unexpected comeback.
510  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 26, 2013, 12:19:51 AM
ASICMiner products probably exceed 30% of the hashrate share already. But you have to realize this:

ASICMiner valuation = (ASICMiner hashrate share + ASICMiner customer hashrate share) * mining share of bitcoin valuation * bitcoin valuation

I highly doubt all mining makes up 30% of Bitcoin's industry, let alone a part of mining.

I highly doubt money supply = GDP.

They have different units, so I fail to see how they can even be compared.


You were the one that compared it to "Bitcoin's industry".
I mean "industry" as in "tourist industry". Making up 50% of industry does not mean making up 50% of GDP.

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What I'm comparing is money supply to stock supply. If ASICMiner is valued at greater than all BTC combined is valued, then it follows that ASICMiner must have revenues separate from Bitcoin. This is not true, so ASICMiner stock will be capped.

No, it doesn't follow.  Both incorporate future expectations into their valuation, so it's not so simple as you imply.  They also have vastly different velocities (turnover of shares/coins).


Why would the future value of ASICMiner exceed that of Bitcoin? Unless ASICMiner is expected to make forays into mining diamonds, this doesn't make much sense.

Do you really think everybody who buys mining hardware will turn a profit in bitcoin terms?

Point taken. I still find double digits unlikely, but I retract my statement that it would be impossible.
511  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 25, 2013, 10:54:43 PM
ASICMiner products probably exceed 30% of the hashrate share already. But you have to realize this:

ASICMiner valuation = (ASICMiner hashrate share + ASICMiner customer hashrate share) * mining share of bitcoin valuation * bitcoin valuation

I highly doubt all mining makes up 30% of Bitcoin's industry, let alone a part of mining.

I highly doubt money supply = GDP.

They have different units, so I fail to see how they can even be compared.


You were the one that compared it to "Bitcoin's industry".
I mean "industry" as in "tourist industry". Making up 50% of industry does not mean making up 50% of GDP.

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What I'm comparing is money supply to stock supply. If ASICMiner is valued at greater than all BTC combined is valued, then it follows that ASICMiner must have revenues separate from Bitcoin. This is not true, so ASICMiner stock will be capped.

No, it doesn't follow.  Both incorporate future expectations into their valuation, so it's not so simple as you imply.  They also have vastly different velocities (turnover of shares/coins).


Why would the future value of ASICMiner exceed that of Bitcoin? Unless ASICMiner is expected to make forays into mining diamonds, this doesn't make much sense.
512  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help us with a little Javascript (Payment .2 BTC) on: July 25, 2013, 10:46:31 PM
There is no language attribute for script.

"javascript" isn't a MIME type. You need type="application/javascript" or type="text/javascript".
With HTML5 you don't need anything. Just <script> works.

Of course not, but it's always good to have it, as some browsers do not support HTML5. With HTML5 you don't need many things: the textContent of <canvas> comes to mind. But that doesn't mean you should forgo them.
513  Other / Meta / "Insert post"—can theymos do this? on: July 25, 2013, 10:37:35 PM
One of my posts is dangerously approaching the 65535-character post size limit of these forums (currently at 47239). Unfortunately, I made the mistake of not "reserving" a post below the OP. As I do not wish to derail the discussion by starting a new thread, I wonder if theymos has the capability to insert a post below the OP for me.

Unfortunately, it seems messages have a message number. If theymos were to insert posts, the software needs a way to order posts ignoring post number. This brings me to this query: is "inserting posts" possible, or should I start a new topic?
514  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 25, 2013, 10:31:12 PM
ASICMiner products probably exceed 30% of the hashrate share already. But you have to realize this:

ASICMiner valuation = (ASICMiner hashrate share + ASICMiner customer hashrate share) * mining share of bitcoin valuation * bitcoin valuation

I highly doubt all mining makes up 30% of Bitcoin's industry, let alone a part of mining.

I highly doubt money supply = GDP.

They have different units, so I fail to see how they can even be compared.

What I'm comparing is money supply to stock supply. If ASICMiner is valued at greater than all BTC combined is valued, then it follows that ASICMiner must have revenues separate from Bitcoin. This is not true, so ASICMiner stock will be capped.
515  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST on: July 25, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
"Play money" just doesn't work with peerbet, because there is no house! I can personally confirm that it is provably fair, however, and it has a trustworthy owner (giantdragon, who also made dailybitcoins.com and CoinURL [which has now been sold]).
516  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help us with a little Javascript (Payment .2 BTC) on: July 25, 2013, 10:06:13 PM
There is no language attribute for script.

"javascript" isn't a MIME type. You need type="application/javascript" or type="text/javascript".
517  Economy / Services / Re: [ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service on: July 25, 2013, 09:04:17 PM
Sorry to bump this thread, but I have a question.

The address 1BLitZGYgERqp1NUgnHLBSfEng6QmZaWKe was connected to the TORWallet theft. However, the address was primarily used for SatoshiDICE gambling. AFAIK, SatoshiDICE cannot be used to launder or mix coins. Is there another reason the thief would want to use SatoshiDICE?
518  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BREAKING: SEC Charges pirateat40 With Running Bitcoin-Denominated Ponzi Scheme on: July 25, 2013, 07:17:50 PM
Can anyone work out the number of coins in 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM when he stopped paying out?

I think it was a lot more than the 193,319 XBT he apparently didn't return to investors.

1) 700000 is not exact, it's a lower bound. He likely didn't return more than 200000 BTC.
2) 1Dky is more likely to be Silk Road's than Pirate's.
519  Bitcoin / Press / ​2013-07-25—TED Talks—Alternative currency on: July 25, 2013, 04:37:49 PM
Paul Kemp-Robertson's TED talk; quite informed and interesting.
First minute or so is about Bitcoin. Quite positive.
520  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-07-25 Konrad Graf: Tiger cub growing up? Bitcoin weekly closing prices on: July 25, 2013, 04:20:59 PM
One does not simply "remove" exchange rate volatility by introducing weighted averages. Anything considered "volatile" can be tamed in this manner. Weighted averages over long periods are effective ways of determining the long-term trend. They do not measure "volatility", so this article cannot be presented as a "sober look at exchange rate volatility".

Investopedia:
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Volatility, as expressed as a percentage coefficient within option-pricing formulas, arises from daily trading activities.

Here's an extreme example to put this to rest. Look at the following chart. Is this "volatile"? Very much so.


However, once we smooth it out with averages, it seems all the volatility has disappeared:


Remember that the point of averages is to smooth out variance. Consequently, using averages to measure variance is absolute folly.
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