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521  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 25, 2013, 03:53:33 PM
Train will remain alive and well until the next official hardware announcement... then we'll all be bitching about not buyiing enough shares under BTC6.

Agreed, we've had several stops on this train ride already:

0.5 XBT/share
0.7 XBT/share
1.2 XBT/share
2.5 XBT/share
4.5 XBT/share

Double digits will happen in 2013.

Double digits would entail ASICMiner shares making up 30% of all bitcoins ever mined. Do you really believe ASICMiner is worth that much?

Friedcat's franchise plans on top of the hardware selling implies he's planning to grow way beyond 30% of the hashrate share. Do you want to bet against him? Smiley

ASICMiner products probably exceed 30% of the hashrate share already. But you have to realize this:

ASICMiner valuation = (ASICMiner hashrate share + ASICMiner customer hashrate share) * mining share of bitcoin valuation * bitcoin valuation

I highly doubt all mining makes up 30% of Bitcoin's industry, let alone a part of mining.
522  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 25, 2013, 03:34:15 PM
Train will remain alive and well until the next official hardware announcement... then we'll all be bitching about not buyiing enough shares under BTC6.

Agreed, we've had several stops on this train ride already:

0.5 XBT/share
0.7 XBT/share
1.2 XBT/share
2.5 XBT/share
4.5 XBT/share

Double digits will happen in 2013.

Double digits would entail ASICMiner shares making up 30% of all bitcoins ever mined. Do you really believe ASICMiner is worth that much?
523  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-07-24 Bitstamp bitcoin trading volume overtakes leading exchange Mt. Gox on: July 25, 2013, 03:12:52 PM
Does Bitstamp support LTC or are there any plans to add it in the future?

Putting all eggs in one basket is never a good idea. For the sake of diversification, they better do.


"Investing in LTC as an alternative to XBT is like using gasoline soaked cash that you keep piled up in your house as a hedge so you can rebuild if your house is destroyed in a fire" -- DeathAndTaxes

Only people who don't understand the network effect invest in alt-coins, and if it was easy for them, they would probably also invest in WeBidz thinking that because it has lower fees, it is superior and will overtake ebay or be "silver to ebay's gold".

That's one frivolous analogy that you can throw at any investment you don't agree with: stock, gold, silver, XBT... 

In a few months LTC  difficulty has increased from sub-20 to close to 1000, and yet ostriches are still burying their heads in the sand.

Funny, because ostriches don't bury their heads in the sand.
524  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-07-25 Banking Day: Bitcoin Exchange Opens in Hong Kong on: July 25, 2013, 01:44:52 PM
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"There is [for Bitcoin] a block chain register of all transactions, so you can see the IP addresses [of participants]," Menant said.

We have a Bitcoin expert there, that Aurélien Menant... Roll Eyes

I would venture to guess there are around 5 people using Bitcoin who are sufficiently privacy-oriented to cover every trace of their transaction. Even something as simple as broadcasting a transaction would completely reveal IPs, and patterns of transaction broadcasts, even if addresses are not invoked directly, can easily link an address to an IP.
525  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-07-24 Bitstamp bitcoin trading volume overtakes leading exchange Mt. Gox on: July 25, 2013, 12:50:43 AM
Does Bitstamp support LTC or are there any plans to add it in the future?

No, and I'll stop using them if they did. What's next, WOW gold?
526  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for someone to create/modify software for this forum [5500+ XBT] on: July 25, 2013, 12:22:37 AM
I vote for an open source software on github, but with node.js...really fast...I'm willing to contribute for free

node.js wouldn't be able to handle all this traffic, as well as node.js isn't a good programming tool. Plus theymos wants it in php.

I don't know about node.js, but javascript in general is a really fast JIT language. Far faster than PHP, for certain.

hi dree12,
indeed node.js is much faster than php. not because js is faster, but because of the new VM google created, v8, which is really fast. node uses v8 under the hood, plus it uses async native capabilities of javascript. What it does, is event driven programming, there's only 1 thread.

I just didn't want to answer to gweedo, cause in the end of the day, i think php is a best fit, not only because theymos  is confortable with the language, but also because it's a language (programming style, not async) that is more well known, so more people can contribute.

I say "javascript in general" because just about every modern tool that runs JS has a lightning-fast JIT. TraceMonkey, Chakra, and Carakan are all as fast as V8.

I do most of my programming in JS nowadays not because I like prototyping or asynchronous event models, but because it's so fast.

This code:
Code:
            "use strict";
            var now = Date.now();
            for (let i = 0; i < 10000000; i++) {
                let k = Math.sin(i);
            }
            console.log((Date.now()-now)/1000);
executed in 4.9 s (TraceMonkey) on my ages-old computer. The equivalent Python code takes 6.6 seconds (using int instead of float, so it should actually be slower), and the equivalent Java code 7.3 seconds (using double instead of int).
527  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Can KNCMiner really deliver 28 nanometers? on: July 24, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
It's kind of funny hearing everyone talk about ORSoC like they're some kind of master chip designing company...  They're listed on LinkedIn as having between 11 and 50 employees.  Butterfly Labs, comparably, has about 40 employees.

# of employees doesn't really matter. Avalon has far fewer than BFL, but finished earlier. ORSoC's employees are probably more efficient than BFL's, especially when you consider Josh Zerlan is included in that 40 BFL employees.
528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses on: July 24, 2013, 09:21:35 PM
OP undergoing restructuring

The OP previously used BBCode to do all its formatting. While this was acceptable when the list was small, it has now grown unwieldy. References were in 50 separate formats, hard spaces and regular spaces were intermixed, broken tags piled up on the bottom, etc.

Luckily, I just recently developed a new tool to compile a simpler markup to the unwieldy BBCode. This tool, BBC++, is a superset of BBCode that allows one to automatically generate tables of contents and reference lists. In addition, it has built-in features for representing Bitcoin quantities with a narrow hard space.

However, BBC++ does not automatically convert "old" code to new code. Some conversions are obvious. For example, all instances of "old quotes" have been converted to typographic quotes. However, some are harder to find. If you see any stray "old-style" references in the descriptions, please notify me.

Just-Dice.com Incident added

After some deliberation, I concluded that the Just-Dice.com Incident met the definition of "major theft", as over dooglus suffered damages of over 1000 BTC, albeit temporarily. Consequently, the Just-Dice.com Incident has been added as the 9th largest theft when measured by USD.
529  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for someone to create/modify software for this forum [5500+ XBT] on: July 24, 2013, 07:37:08 PM
I vote for an open source software on github, but with node.js...really fast...I'm willing to contribute for free

node.js wouldn't be able to handle all this traffic, as well as node.js isn't a good programming tool. Plus theymos wants it in php.

I don't know about node.js, but javascript in general is a really fast JIT language. Far faster than PHP, for certain.
530  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do girls use Bitcoin ? on: July 24, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
You are defining a joke image as "inappropriate" and "should never have been posted here"

It is just an image with pink and some gifs  Undecided

I'm all for free speech. Free speech entails free criticism of speech, and I am exercising that right.
531  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do girls use Bitcoin ? on: July 24, 2013, 06:08:07 PM
Oh so now it is about censorship, right.

Women dominated forums exist, so it is clear that being on internet is not a problem for women. The question is: why for some arguments we have women dominated forums while for others (cryptocurrencies) no?

Where did I say anything about censorship?
532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How should we pay for things in space? on: July 24, 2013, 06:04:24 PM
By the time we get into serious space settlement, we will have developed the technology to allow faster than light communication.

By the time we're sufficiently advanced to quantum tunnel data or are establishing miniature wormholes for FTL transmission, is it not likely the whole concept of money is outdated by then?

I am not sure the concept of money can become outdated? Even if we live in an egalitarian utopia, there will still be reasons to put value on things for accounting and making decisions and stuff.

Not if we have a Molecular Assembler, there won't be. And I'm reasonably sure we'll get that before FTL.

Time is still finite, so if you want other people to do things for you then you will have to pay them. There is more to life than just stuff.

And won't you need to buy power and raw materials for your molecular assembler to run on?

Raw materials are unnecessary because anyone will be able to assemble them. The point of a molecular assembler Tongue.

Energy would likely be used as a medium of exchange, but only unofficially. For example, paying 185 PJ for a new spaceship.
533  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do girls use Bitcoin ? on: July 24, 2013, 05:59:59 PM
So now jokes are forbidden? The next time a man will make a joke on a man i expect you to instantly come and ban him! But guess what, it seems these jokes are fine  Roll Eyes

What if who made the image is a woman? As i said, you can't know the sex of someone on the internet!


Do you recognize the difference between making a joke on a man, and making a joke on men? For example, it's alright to joke about Barack Obama. It's not alright to make jokes about mulattoes in general. The jokes in this thread do not target a woman. They target women in general.

The sex of the creator doesn't matter. The fact that a creator exists does not matter. The image is inappropriate, and should never have been posted here.

Why? Jokes are made on men too. Actually, since this forum is made of mostly men, most jokes are about men. But no one ever ask for that to stop. Weird.

If someone, no matter the sex, make a good software and post it, people will use it, no matter the sex. Same for a good service. For a good product.

Some trolls posting some pictures just can't influence this.

Give one example of a man joining and being accused of faking his gender. One example of a man asked to show private parts of his body. One example of men being called "too technologically inept" to use Bitcoin. One example of this "modified client", made especially for men:

Have you ever been to women-dominated forums?


ya.ya.yo!

This type of reasoning equates to "typhoons are worse than hurricanes; therefore, we should not worry about hurricanes".

Basing on what he says, if a man go on a women dominated forum and post that image the forum will become completely desert  Cheesy

As I said, 7% of users admit they are female in an anonymous poll. This decreases to 4% when measuring only those who fill out profiles. There is a hostile atmosphere here, and that needs to be fixed.
534  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do girls use Bitcoin ? on: July 24, 2013, 05:44:51 PM
Why? Jokes are made on men too. Actually, since this forum is made of mostly men, most jokes are about men. But no one ever ask for that to stop. Weird.

If someone, no matter the sex, make a good software and post it, people will use it, no matter the sex. Same for a good service. For a good product.

Some trolls posting some pictures just can't influence this.

Give one example of a man joining and being accused of faking his gender. One example of a man asked to show private parts of his body. One example of men being called "too technologically inept" to use Bitcoin. One example of this "modified client", made especially for men:

535  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do girls use Bitcoin ? on: July 24, 2013, 05:36:08 PM
I realize much of the thread is joking, but that doesn't justify this outrageous sexism.

Yes, women use Bitcoin. Yes, they are sufficiently tech-savvy to do it. If you look at this thread, you will find that over 7% of users on this forum are female. It is irresponsible to denounce almost 50% of the world population in this way.

If there's a reason that fewer women frequent these forums than men, it is because of the hostile environment. BitcoinTalk is not Saudi Arabia. We are not to stereotype any gender, profession, race, or location. What is Bitcoin about? Decentralization. Money in the hands of the people—all people.

Women are integral parts of the Bitcoin ecosystem. Lindsay Holland is the assistant director of the Bitcoin Foundation. All top Bitcoin companies, including the former BitInstant, BFL, Mt. Gox, BitPay, etc., employ women. A woman owns the eminent Bitcoin stock exchange and options market, MPOE/MPEX. Bitcoin would not nearly be where it is now had not been for the tireless work and support of women. This fact must be respected, not dismissed. The stereotyping in this thread is simply unacceptable.
Wtf are you speaking about?
On the internet sex does not matter. Do we know the sex of the creator of bitcoin? No. Because it does not matter. Sexism, hostile environment, saudi arabia, lolwut? No one stop anyone from using bitcoin. If there are so few women it is their choice. If they want to use it, they can use it without problems.

You are speaking about "women" like if they are something special, something different  Roll Eyes

Denying the problem doesn't solve it. An utopian world is genderblind. These forums are not. If you want proof, read this very thread. If "sex" truly doesn't matter, we'd not be making these inappropriate jokes and assertions. This is the type of behaviour that must stop.
536  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do girls use Bitcoin ? on: July 24, 2013, 05:17:34 PM
I realize much of the thread is joking, but that doesn't justify this outrageous sexism.

Yes, women use Bitcoin. Yes, they are sufficiently tech-savvy to do it. If you look at this thread, you will find that over 7% of users on this forum are female. It is irresponsible to denounce almost 50% of the world population in this way.

If there's a reason that fewer women frequent these forums than men, it is because of the hostile environment. BitcoinTalk is not Saudi Arabia. We are not to stereotype any gender, profession, race, or location. What is Bitcoin about? Decentralization. Money in the hands of the people—all people.

Sorry, but I think you are greatly exaggerating.

It is no secret that men and women often have different interests. I've talked to women about Bitcoin and their reaction was highly sexist towards me if we would apply your criteria.

I think the environment in these forums is certainly not hostile towards women. Any woman which interests herself in Bitcoin would be warmly embraced by the community... <sexism>and if she's only almost hot-looking she would get laid in no time if she liked, because tech-savvy girls are any Bitcoiner's wet dream.</sexism>

Grin

ya.ya.yo

Have you talked to men about Bitcoin, in the same way? I have no doubts that they'd dismiss you equally quickly.

Many women in Bitcoin have not been warmly embraced by the community. I myself was guilty of this; however, I have since apologized[1]. In fact, in no other community I've visited does such scrutiny[2] apply to women. When a woman claims to have registered, many forum users reply with derogating responses such as “tits or GTFO”[3]. This harassment, too often unstopped, has led to a stunning decline in the number of forum users openly admitting their female gender. Indeed, although almost 7.5% of users identify as female in an anonymous poll, less than 4% identify as such on their profiles[4]. This reminds me of Jeanne Baré or Billy Tipton, two cases of women disguising as men so as to avoid sexism.

Sexism is real, especially on these forums. Do not make it worse by making these inappropriate jokes.

537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do many of you contribute to the bitcoin wiki ? on: July 24, 2013, 04:45:58 PM
Does it still charge to do so?

There is an amount required as a custom anti-spam measure.  It is an amount of bitcoin worth like $1.

Perhaps if you ask here for sponsor for some edits that you plan to make, someone will agree to reimburse you for the BitcoinPayment fee after seeing those edits completed.

I was a contributor to the Bitcoin wiki before this obscene rule. My opinion on this is very clear:
As little as 5 bitcents is, I see no reason to pay to volunteer. The only sane reason to pay here would be if you are promoting a product—which is exactly what the wiki needs less of.
538  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How should we pay for things in space? on: July 24, 2013, 04:34:40 PM
By the time we get into serious space settlement, we will have developed the technology to allow faster than light communication.

By the time we're sufficiently advanced to quantum tunnel data or are establishing miniature wormholes for FTL transmission, is it not likely the whole concept of money is outdated by then?

I am not sure the concept of money can become outdated? Even if we live in an egalitarian utopia, there will still be reasons to put value on things for accounting and making decisions and stuff.

The "medium of exchange" may become outdated when everyone can manufacture anything. Already, 3D printers are spreading to each and every home. Eventually, we may return to the barter system, as we would always have something the people we are to do business with want.
539  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do girls use Bitcoin ? on: July 24, 2013, 04:31:25 PM
I realize much of the thread is joking, but that doesn't justify this outrageous sexism.

Yes, women use Bitcoin. Yes, they are sufficiently tech-savvy to do it. If you look at this thread, you will find that over 7% of users on this forum are female. It is irresponsible to denounce almost 50% of the world population in this way.

If there's a reason that fewer women frequent these forums than men, it is because of the hostile environment. BitcoinTalk is not Saudi Arabia. We are not to stereotype any gender, profession, race, or location. What is Bitcoin about? Decentralization. Money in the hands of the people—all people.

Women are integral parts of the Bitcoin ecosystem. Lindsay Holland is the assistant director of the Bitcoin Foundation. All top Bitcoin companies, including the former BitInstant, BFL, Mt. Gox, BitPay, etc., employ women. A woman owns the eminent Bitcoin stock exchange and options market, MPOE/MPEX. Bitcoin would not nearly be where it is now had not been for the tireless work and support of women. This fact must be respected, not dismissed. The stereotyping in this thread is simply unacceptable.
540  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How should we pay for things in space? on: July 24, 2013, 01:48:20 PM
we can't even invent a cure for acne



Amazing! You just invented a cure for acne! You'll be showered with Nobel prizes and unlimited praise for this groundbreaking work!
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