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501  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 28, 2018, 11:21:40 PM
Dude please stop multi-posting.  Please edit your posts to include responses to multiple posts if need be.

Honestly, in rural scenarios, you would be amazed at what a small group of well armed people can do against a government. Leo's dont function so well in non urban environments, only the military. If rural America suddenly said fuck it, we secede, it would actually be pretty difficult to contain. It's not a few citizens; virtually everyone in my community has multiple guns, at least one long gun and one hand gun. I mean that literally. I live between two farms Cheesy

No offense but if you think that the tanks and air force that a dictators military force would be able to unleash is countered by a bunch of farmers with a few rifles and hand guns then that doesn't say much about the confidence in your military.

Not trying to engage in whataboutism, but consider the car.

The car isn't engineered and designed to kill people, let alone that being it's ONLY purpose for existing.  You literally couldn't pick a more apples to oranges comparison.

Why can't I have a 50cal mounted to the roof of my mini van, cars hurt more people than roof mounted machine guns!
502  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 28, 2018, 08:14:53 PM
Suffice to say that if, for example, pharmaceutical companies were an extremely powerful lobby in the halls of power of a country, one could expect any law passed which dished out money to really, really favor them. That's the case in the USA, but not in many other countries in which that lobby is not such a force.

Ya most democratic countries have figured out allowing politicians to be bought publicly is a bit of a problem LOL.  

So what your saying is that the lobby groups have to much power because they already bought BOTH political parties??  You mean politicians might make decisions that favour their corporate donors over their constituents?  Some countries consider this legalized public bribery and have a lot of laws to make sure politicians aren't publicly bought off LOL.  

I wonder when the American citizens will figure this out and take all their assault rifles to congress and demand the corrupt government be made to actually work for them instead of against them...
503  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 28, 2018, 07:54:39 PM
We should not be punished for the behavior of the lowest common denominator.

I would like to have a working tank and a roof mounted 50 cal on my mini van.  Lots of people are responsible enough to own these devices so I demand one as my right to bear arms (LOL jk I'm not American).

Lots of countries have figured out the balance.  Hunting is a sport but not a sport where you need a fucking assault rifle or even a hand gun.  Those 2 weapons are designed to do one thing only, kill a human.  They literally have no other purpose on the planet and would never exist if we didn't need to kill other people.

Generally countries agree that military weapons should not be in the hands of civilians no matter how many people can use them safely, it's just safer for EVERYONE if these weapons are not in civilians hands.

Now as far as the laws are shit without firepower.  How many times have you guys needed to revolt against your government with civilian firearms since independence?  How many other democracy's have had to have their citizens revolt against a tyrannic take over. If you had a president that tried to become president for life  Roll Eyes do you think the commanders and entire military would roll over and bend the knee.  If he did control the military do you think a few citizens armed with AR-15's and hand guns are going to present much resistance to the best military on the planet?Huh??
504  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 28, 2018, 07:35:22 PM
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Turns out when people have healthcare they end up liking it, kind of unbelievable but somehow it's true!

Ain't all that free shit nice?

huh I guess the American citizens covered by the ACA never pay taxes...  Do you like all those free roads you use or any other litany of services the government provides for "free".
505  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 28, 2018, 03:34:29 PM
Here is a fact - if one doesn't own or has possesion of a gun, they can't commit a mass shooting. Another fact - the opposite is also true. In a country where millions are able to buy guns as easily as cotton candy there are bound to be nutjobs that will commit these attrocities. And while it is tragic every time, I can't believe that so many people in US are unable to make the connection and demand that something is done about it.

Corporate Propaganda

Every democratic 1st world country figured this shit out a few generations ago but there is WAY to much money spent on brainwashing Americans into believing the left wing radical Mexicans are coming to kill them!
506  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 28, 2018, 02:04:41 PM
Quite a convenient list there

It's a comparison of OECD, 1st world, developed nations. It's a pretty standard list of countries to use when comparing things like health, disease, wages, wealth, unemployment, crime, education, etc. I understand you don't like it because it doesn't fit your narrative, but that doesn't change the facts.


You can use facts to prove anything that is even remotely true, facts schmacks!

Techshare doesn't even understand the words he uses, for example he claimed I should look at per capita homicides by countries.  When I informed him that the US has approx 8X the firearms homicide rate he turned around and said it was because there are 10X more people in the US than CAN....

How can you argue with someone like that???
507  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 28, 2018, 01:57:09 PM
7 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/10/27/heavy-police-presence-near-synagogue-in-squirrel-hill/

Anyone want to guess at the religion or political affiliation of the shooter?

I'm going to guess he was a Republican and a Christian... seems like an easy bet

I'm sure this is just another democrat plot to slow down Republican enthusiasm at the polls and not a neo-natzi Trumpkrieger!  I am going to assume this is a soros funded neo-natzi false flag because I need to make this fit my own conclusions!

Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooter Identified As Christian Nationalist Robert Bowers
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2018/10/pittsburgh-synagogue-shooter-identified-as-christian-nationalist-robert-bower/
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Christian Nationalist Robert Bowers yelled “All Jews must die” before opening fire at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, killing at least eight and injuring many more...

Gee, he was a Christian and a "Nationalist" (republican/alt-right?)

I'm shocked... who could have ever guessed such a thing?

Amazing how well Occam's Razor works

"Occam's razor is the problem-solving principle that the simplest solution tends to be the correct one. When presented with competing hypotheses to solve a problem, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions."

You're wrong because my opinion > than your facts!

If anyone can get weapon in USA, here we can see the results. In USA something like this happen several times each year. For example, in Australia, which is also quite large country, you do not hear something similar.  Smiley

The answer to gun violence is clearly MOAR guns.  Even better if the average citizen is armed with military weapons designed with the single purpose of killing another human being!!!!
508  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 28, 2018, 01:04:51 AM

Nope he was your basic nut job with the mind to kill.


He was a right wing extremist nut job, denying that seems rather impossible...

509  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 28, 2018, 12:34:46 AM
I never said our current healthcare system was perfect. However if you can afford it, its great. As stated, in its current form it is incredibly inefficient. The problem though is this country has been implementing Socialist type policies for some time now, along with all kinds of red tape and excessive regulations that make things SO DIFFICULT for doctors, they are just quitting in droves. BTW, this was well underway while Obama was still in office, so no knee jerk "MORE PROOF ORANGEMAN BAD" here please.

The policies you are advocating are the cause of the issues, not the solution.

And those who can't afford it?

Market is not going to solve the issues. If that was possible we wouldn't be spending 18% of GDP on healthcare for 90% of the population while other countries cover 100% with half that. We can continue arguing about it for 50 more years but eventually "socialist" policies - such as tax-funded full coverage and price controls - will be implemented.

The majority of Americans were against the ACA (which is hardly socialist) but now that they have had it for a few years the majority of Americans love it...  Americans love it SO MUCH that the Republicans are now campaigning on keeping it while filing a lawsuit to repeal it LOL.

Turns out when people have healthcare they end up liking it, kind of unbelievable but somehow it's true!
510  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 27, 2018, 10:45:09 PM

It's a damn good thing white people don't count as immigrants...
511  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 27, 2018, 09:59:35 PM

Why don't you take a look at what P.E Trudeau did in the late 60's and early 70's.  Really did you check the whole fucking country yourself.  Canada has a large vibrant Latino community.

https://www.npr.org/2014/10/29/359963625/dozens-of-countries-take-in-more-immigrants-per-capita-than-the-u-s
512  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 27, 2018, 09:27:07 PM
Looks like we all need to be armed all the time, just so we can protect ourselves. This should be fun... going to church wearing a gun.

We already have more guns than people. What exactly does "armed all the time" entail? Two guns per person? An assault rifle? A bazooka?

I think folks need pill boxes out front of churches and all cars should be armed with roof mounted 50 cals so everyone is safe!
513  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 27, 2018, 06:33:43 PM
You might want to check out the PER-CAPITA gun homicides by country. You would be surprised.
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The fact that your homicide rate by firearms is approx 8 times that of Canada isn't much of a surprise to me, I can see why it would surprise you though!  Somehow you guys can rationalize the argument that more guns means more safety when the facts clearly state the EXACT opposite!
Yeah, well we also have like, what 10 times the population, are much more diverse culturally and otherwise, and the little fact that we border a country with some of the highest homicide rates on Earth. I am sure none of those things matter in this equation Wink

First of all look up the definition of the word you fucking used I guess you don't know what per-capita actually means if you want to bring up the 10X population, Jesus critical thinking is so hard eh!

I think you better just look up how multi-cultural Canada is before you make you're self look even stupider by saying such ridiculous things.

we border a country with some of the highest homicide rates on Earth

I know isn't it a shame that the vast majority of gun violence in the US is those pesky Mexicans, you should build a fucking wall or something to keep them out LOL.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
514  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 27, 2018, 06:23:47 PM
Trump is responsible for cancer now? Why is the government responsible for your healthcare? Every time you involve the government, things get MORE inefficient and costly, not less.

I know facts are hard for you to understand but empirical data shows that the US government spends more tax dollars on less health care than the rest of the world with UHC.  Or IOW In Canada our government run universal health care is approximately twice as efficient as your private system on simple economic terms and that is BEFORE counting the fucking coverage inequality, in which the Canadian government run system provides full healthcare while the American system is lets just say less than complete.

Your private system is literally one of the most  inefficient healthcare systems in the civilized world....  And empirically less efficient than almost all forms of UHC...

Facts matter
515  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 27, 2018, 05:50:23 PM

Republicans don't create domestic terorirsm, and Democrats don't create equitable healthcare. Lets relax with the semantics and actually think for a second.

And yet Republicans create jobs and Democrats create Mobs, thats OK right, hypocrite...

 
There also hasn't been 275 mass shootings this year, you're using a source that is using a defination of 'mass shooting' that isn't close to what the FBI (or other places) use.

Check out this link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#Differing_sources

Don't think by what I'm saying that I think that mass shootings are okay, but inflating your numbers to attempt to make a point is horrid enough in and of itself.

Mass shootings and mass killings are 2 different things.  I am not exaggerating shit As a person living in a country with an average # of mass shootings annually of approx 0% I consider a shooting incident where 4 or more people are injured or killed ABSOLUTELY counts as a mass shooting as does a number of other sources...

Saying I am horrid by inflating my numbers is wrong, I have the statistics to back up my claim, even though the right wing doesn't understand what facts are!


You might want to check out the PER-CAPITA gun homicides by country. You would be surprised.

The fact that your homicide rate by firearms is approx 8 times that of Canada isn't much of a surprise to me, I can see why it would surprise you though!  Somehow you guys can rationalize the argument that more guns means more safety when the facts clearly state the EXACT opposite!
516  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 27, 2018, 05:38:01 PM

Republicans don't create domestic terorirsm, and Democrats don't create equitable healthcare. Lets relax with the semantics and actually think for a second.

And yet Republicans create jobs and Democrats create Mobs, thats OK right, hypocrite...

 
There also hasn't been 275 mass shootings this year, you're using a source that is using a defination of 'mass shooting' that isn't close to what the FBI (or other places) use.

Check out this link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#Differing_sources

Don't think by what I'm saying that I think that mass shootings are okay, but inflating your numbers to attempt to make a point is horrid enough in and of itself.

Mass shootings and mass killings are 2 different things.  I am not exaggerating shit As a person living in a country with an average # of mass shootings annually of approx 0% I consider a shooting incident where 4 or more people are injured or killed ABSOLUTELY counts as a mass shooting as does a number of other sources...

Saying I am horrid by inflating my numbers is wrong, I have the statistics to back up my claim, even though the right wing doesn't understand what facts are!
517  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 27, 2018, 05:23:21 PM
7 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/10/27/heavy-police-presence-near-synagogue-in-squirrel-hill/

Anyone want to guess at the religion or political affiliation of the shooter?

I'm going to guess he was a Republican and a Christian... seems like an easy bet

Why trumps daughter is married to a Jewish guy.

So should not trump supporters like Jewish people?

Being a supporter of any politician isn't necessarily an all or nothing, lots of folks like Trump but don't like EVERYTHING he says or does.

Life is rarely black or white but more often a scale of some shade of grey...
518  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 27, 2018, 05:13:20 PM
What a beautiful country where anyone can buy a gun and spend his weekend relaxing by killing a few people.

Don't worry the retards will be in here shortly claiming if the victims just had their own guns they could have stopped him earlier.  Clearly the answer to stopping gun violence is to make sure MORE guns are in the hands of morons!!!!!  The US needs less religious people with fucking guns not more LOL.

TBH I am so decencitized to American mass shootings I don't even feel sorry for you guys anymore, it kind of sickens me to say that but FFS the solution is so simple and EVERY other country in the western democratic world has figured out the basic reality that less assault rifles and hand guns in the hands of the general public makes your country safer place to live...
519  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: October 27, 2018, 04:29:36 PM
Oh and the person I talked to is voting Republican precisely because Trump said Democrats are evil and will take his Medicare away.

So they are stupid enough to believe his fucking tweets... OMFG you guys are so fucked LOL.

Is that person not able to see the lawsuit the REPUBLICANS have currently in the courts to try to repeal the ACA pre-existing condition clause. Is he not aware of the 70 votes the republicans have taken to repeal his precious health care?

I agree that your healthcare system stifles small business, in Canada healthcare and the word pre-existing conditions don't exist as obstacles to open, run and expand a business...  Capitalism my ass!

The USA is literally the only modern western democratic country where people declare personal bankruptcy because of healthcare, yup private health care is sooooooooooo fucking awesome!!!!!!!!!


Luckily he'll get Medicare if he can last a few more years working 100 hours a week

If he's really lucky Medicare won't be slashed out of existence by the Republicans by the time he turns 65, what a great gamble for a man who spent decades paying taxes and into the system!

520  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already on: October 27, 2018, 03:23:43 PM
7 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/10/27/heavy-police-presence-near-synagogue-in-squirrel-hill/

Anyone want to guess at the religion or political affiliation of the shooter?

I'm going to guess he was a Republican and a Christian... seems like an easy bet

Nut job walks into a synagogue on a Saturday and guns down innocent families...

I'm sure this is just another democrat plot to slow down Republican enthusiasm at the polls and not a neo-natzi Trumpkrieger!  I am going to assume this is a soros funded neo-natzi false flag because I need to make this fit my own conclusions!

Republicans create domestic terrorists, Democrats create equitable healthcare...

3 officers shot...

Shooter in custody...

Preliminary reports are he had an AR-15 and multiple hand guns.  12 people shot inc 3 officers with 8 casualties.  First reports are that 60-100 people could have been inside.

275 mass shootings in the US this year, you fucking retards need to give up your obsession with things that are designed to ONLY kill humans...  Americans in general are not smart enough to have assault rifles in the hands of the general public LOL.

Canadians aren't smart enough either.  I thank fucking shit every day that my moron neighbors aren't allowed to have a thing designed with the single purpose of killing another human.  My neighbors can't even back out of their driveway without going into the ditch several times a year, the ABSOLUTE last thing I want is them to have a fucking hand gun or assault rifle in their house or car...
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