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5121  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1 bitcoin = 200k dollars on: April 24, 2016, 07:30:47 AM



and that's not even including all the less liquid assets like gold, stocks, bonds and real estate.

Not to forget this is a time slice view (of what year ?)
Now go and model this with historic fiat deflation rate.... 6 Mio USD in 20 years is just a normal house value.
5122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We missed the ETH train. on: April 23, 2016, 04:09:05 PM
This here is one of my favorite long term charts and might hold for any limited & value storing coin.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/8ss69KFu-Perfect-Bubble-in-the-making/

So you see how long it usually take to bottom out and start new bubbles. Still this needs full bootstrapping of the coin and uniqueness as well. Exactly this is already lacking ETH, since Synereo, Expanse, BTS, Lisk and Rootstock (...?) will all try to get this marketshare as well....

Will there really be something like a healthy growth?
5123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New crypto-currency to be released: BLOCKCHAIN (tm) on: April 21, 2016, 06:41:57 PM
the only question that matters: block size!

please tell us about the block size. 1mb, 2mb or 7gb?

everything below 5gb is a joke.

The media experts about Blockchain(tm) care not about block size. That is a problem facing Bitcoin!

Where can i buy some Blockchain HuhHuh?

I hope it is different of this "bitcoin" only used to buy drugs  Huh Huh Huh

I don't want problem with the police Roll Eyes

Dont panic, good devs have spent time on that. They also worked for Google or R3 now....
 Grin
5124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 20, 2016, 03:55:58 PM
the 3k Wall on 440 on bitfinex is a good chance to get cheap coins.

and ist gone ...
5125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 20, 2016, 06:49:10 AM
       

                 China in trouble
                 Bitcoin in bubble


http://www.reuters.com/article/china-stocks-midday-idUSL3N17N1RL


You made a nice little rhyme, but factually inaccurate...


Currently, ETH is in a bubble, and bitcoin is likely underpriced.... ... think about it....

1) 2010 to 2013 - several 10x and 100x periods - appreciating in price from pennies to $1160

2) $1160 in November 2013 (likely in a bubble at that time),

3)  downward correction for about a year - during 2014..

4) Held down for more than 8 months - from January 2015 to August 2015...  ...  

5) some upward action - likely  mini-bubble from August 2015 to early November 2015

6) extensive FUCDding spreading..... and attempts to bring BTC prices below $360 then $380 and $400.... ...

7) currently, upward price pressures, in part based on difficulties bringing price down in accordance with 6) above...


I wouldn't describe current BTC prices as a bubble - however, if BTC prices shoot up in the $3 to $5k territory in the coming months or even within a year, we may be able to describe that as a bubble, depending upon how quickly prices go up to such a level...  ..  There are other BTC bubble scenarios, as well; however, currently, seems far from a BTC bubble and more likely underpriced, given the fundamentals.. mining power and infrastructure and other ongoing developing network effects.

Related to the tense of the news below, you might get that I think of the future here ...

Roll Eyes

Edit:  Forcast here as well:

http://blogs.barrons.com/asiastocks/2016/04/20/china-markets-tumble-as-goldman-raises-its-gdp-growth-forecast/
5126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 20, 2016, 06:17:36 AM
       

                 China in trouble
                 Bitcoin in bubble


http://www.reuters.com/article/china-stocks-midday-idUSL3N17N1RL
5127  Local / Presse / Re: [2016-04-18] FAZ.net Panama für alle on: April 19, 2016, 06:54:10 PM
Allerdings nur für jemanden der sowieso alle Transaktionen im Internet übewacht - also die NSA. Eine einzelne (nicht US) Firma oder Behörde dürfte dagegen wenig Möglichkeiten haben die Pseudonymität zu durchbrechen. Ansonsten hätte man z.B. das Geld, welches Mark (MtGox) geklaut hat, längst gefunden.


Korrekt. Ich meine aber genau mit potentiell, dass es mit geigneten Methoden für KYC usw. äusserst transparent gemacht werden könnte....(Futur & Konjunktiv)
5128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2016, 03:13:08 PM
chinese cartel in action. preventing a price above 2793-2795 to avoid new miners coming into the game. seems the have tons of bitcoins available.

https://snag.gy/4tpVj5

Hmm... I was counting on a Chinese pump to break above 2820 CNY within 2 days. If this won't happen, then the market will have made a lower high,
and then probably a lower low, which means a downtrend will become apparent.

IMO the point is to get the most out of Bitcoin until the halving event. no new miners allowed until then.

Interesting theory.

If there are enough buyers out there, then they risk to sell their stake at a low level - does not really make sense to me.

Better is always to drive the price higher, not to sell cheap.
5129  Local / Presse / Re: [2016-04-18] FAZ.net Panama für alle on: April 19, 2016, 01:39:50 PM
Die potentiellen Überwachungsmöglichkeiten für Bitcoin sind um einige Grössenordnungen höher als bei allen anderen Zahlungsmitteln,
so langsam wird das auch beim letzten Regulator ankommen.  PWC E&Y und Co sind eifrig dran.
5130  Local / Presse / [2016-04-19] SRF Fernsehbeitrag Bitcoin & Blockchain on: April 19, 2016, 01:35:42 PM
Sehr interessant und kompakt mit z.B. Monetas CEO, PWC,  R3 CEO C. Cooper

http://www.blicklog.com/2016/04/19/srf-blockchain-die-finanzwelt-im-banne-der-bitcoin-technologie/
5131  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: April 19, 2016, 10:43:36 AM
Miners represent only a part... where are the users / buyers ?

 
5132  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-04-18] Video: Bitcoin volatility looking like it will rise on: April 19, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
So when a employee for Gold Money tells us that Bitcoin is not a store of value, we should take that as a unbiased opinion?

We know Bitcoin has multiple applications and a store of value is only part of it. These companies will do anything to shift the focus away from Bitcoin and on to the importance of the Blockchain. I

wonder where the Blockchain would have been, if it was not for the Bitcoin token? They are so clueless.  Roll Eyes

He says the opposit at 2:42 ..

He also says you should go Long, if you want to 'buy' the blockchain, instead of buying some company stocks - sounds very bullish to me.
5133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / IMF about to lose 150Mio Euro due to Austrian bank bail in.... on: April 17, 2016, 07:34:24 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/austria-heta-asset-world-bank-idUSL5N17I1U9

i d like to see pensions buy into bitcoin, so this is history...

http://www.kleinezeitung.at/k/wirtschaft/hypo/4968022/150-Millionen-Euro_Heta_Auch-die-Weltbank-hat-sich-verspekuliert
5134  Economy / Economics / Re: European Banks Crash For 4th Straight Week on: April 17, 2016, 07:29:25 AM
Austria Just Announced A 54% Haircut Of Senior Creditors In First "Bail In" Under New European Rules

Just over a year ago, a black swan landed in the middle of Europe, when in what was then dubbed a "Spectacular Development" In Austria, the "bad bank" of failed Hypo Alpe Adria - the Heta Asset Resolution AG - itself went from good to bad, with its creditors forced into an involuntary "bail-in" following the "discovery" of a $8.5 billion capital hole in its balance sheet primarily related to ongoing deterioration in central and eastern European economies.

Austria had previously nationalized Heta’s predecessor Hypo Alpe-Adria-Bank International six years ago after it nearly collapsed under the bad loans it ran up when it grew rapidly in the former Yugoslavia. Having burnt through €5.5 euros of taxpayers’ money to prop up Hypo Alpe, Finance Minister Hans Joerg Schelling ended support in March 2015, triggering the FMA’s takeover.

This was the first official proposed "Bail-In" of creditors, one that took place before similar ad hoc balance sheet restructuring would take place in Greece and Portugal in the coming months. Or rather, it wasn't a fully executed "Bail-In" for the reason that creditors fought it tooth and nail.

And then today, following a decision by the Austrian Banking Regulator, the Finanzmarktaufsicht or Financial Market Authority, Austria officially became the first European country to use a new law under the framework imposed by Bank the European Recovery and Resolution Directive to share losses of a failed bank with senior creditors as it slashed the value of debt owed by Heta Asset Resolution AG......

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-10/austria-just-announced-54-haircut-senior-creditors-first-bail-under-new-european-rul

Check that, the IMF pensions are about to lose 150 mio Euro with that haircut!

http://www.reuters.com/article/austria-heta-asset-world-bank-idUSL5N17I1U9

5135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] New crypto-currency to be released: BLOCKCHAIN (tm) on: April 16, 2016, 04:51:38 AM
Good stuff, with this also the naming gets decentralized better....

Who wants to join me and create the first BlockchainToFiat (TM) exchange?

5136  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Western Union & co (banks i.g) workers go for a hedge and buy bitcoin? on: April 15, 2016, 09:04:49 PM
This here exactly will lead to those job hedges I am about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1438115.0
5137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Goldman Sachs: "Blockchain - BTC´s underlying tech - could disrupt everything" on: April 15, 2016, 09:02:30 PM
In the long term it will fully disrupt GS itself ...
5138  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Western Union & co (banks i.g) workers go for a hedge and buy bitcoin? on: April 15, 2016, 08:52:07 PM
I just talked to an FX sales boss and he agreed that bitcoin could be a good job hedge for such workers beside a fiat hedge as well....

 
Any other workers / business owners think of such a job hedge?

Dude I don't understand what you mean by job hedge or fiat hedge. Hedge means an investment that is intended to balance out the losses incurred in other bad investment by a company. Why would WU PayPal or FX traders hedge in Bitcoins if their stocks aren't falling down? Can you elaborate more on that hedge you are talking about.

In terms of a insurance for e.g. getting less paid from WU,... or in worst case lose your job. Bitcoin is getting up in price (by taking over that business) so it will compensate some of that.

Hedge for fiat I hope I do not need to explain more in this forum or do you need this again?
5139  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Western Union & co (banks i.g) workers go for a hedge and buy bitcoin? on: April 15, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
I just talked to an FX sales boss and he agreed that bitcoin could be a good job hedge for such workers beside a fiat hedge as well....

 
Any other workers / business owners think of such a job hedge?
5140  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Will Western Union & co (banks i.g) workers go for a hedge and buy bitcoin? on: April 15, 2016, 06:18:03 PM
I d do so if I work for such a service provider like WU , paypal or even settlement services, FX traders ... any others?
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