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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 26, 2014, 02:02:40 PM
why is cloaktalk down?

Server maintenance, it should be back up shortly
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 25, 2014, 09:23:04 PM
Hi guys,

Just dropping by to let you guys know that Cloak markets are now live on www.lazycoins.com

Thanks

Nice. Lazycoin's UX/UI is one of the best I've seen so far; However, the fees seem a bit steep in relationship to the other exchanges. My suggestion would be to set your fees to/or below Mintpal's level and you should see some nice growth. Maybe even 0% fees for the first 14/30 days of a user signing up then I think you'll do quite well for yourselves. 100% cold storage is a nice touch considering the recent coin theft.

Good luck!
https://lazycoins.com/security WOW!
+100

Advice noted! 0% fee and some other features coming in the next few days.

Help us improve our site while in beta and try make some test trades.

Hi Guys,

After listening to Cloakcoin community members LazyCoins have decided to offer 0% fee on all trades.

Thank you for helping us improve our services.

https://lazycoins.com/trade#cloak-btc
https://twitter.com/LazyCoins



+1
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 25, 2014, 04:58:08 PM
Hi,

  I will start by presenting myself.  My name is Jonathan Driscoll.  Here is my picture.



Thank you

Interesting.
524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 25, 2014, 04:01:15 PM


The difference between me and your broker is that I guarantee a profit and a much better one
A much better profit? LMAO! This just keeps getting better.
The only guarantees in life are death and taxes and only a fool would fall for your scheme. I'm done but do let us know about all the profit you make for the suckers.

BTW if you're so good at making money then why are you in here begging? Your gambling buddies should have plenty of dough to invest with you.

He is doing the same at many other coin threads, not just cloak.

I suck dick for Cloak. That's real talk. Anyone interested?

525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 25, 2014, 03:59:15 PM
Lack of dev updates always leads to price dips. Nothing to worry about.

I still can't fathom the lack of brains from someone both giving cheap coins away and dropping the value of their sale by 20% instantly with a dump like that. Wouldn't take that long to trade your way out at a stable price with a coin like this. Meh, congrats to the buyers of that dump I guess. Maybe more to come.

Oh wait I get it, panic chase of blackcoin rally that is already over and drawing in suckers. Hate to be cynical but...

It's probably someone who needs the BTC. I hope they aren't getting suckered into the Ether IPO.. Lulz.

I'm not in the game to buy ether but I have friends telling me to. Do you have any links/info that discourages buying in?

There's already a fork in progress what requires no IPO. I'm not sure why anyone would buy into that bullshit in the first place. If the coin is so revolutionary, why do they need an IPO to fix a price?
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 25, 2014, 03:19:18 PM
Lack of dev updates always leads to price dips. Nothing to worry about.

I still can't fathom the lack of brains from someone both giving cheap coins away and dropping the value of their sale by 20% instantly with a dump like that. Wouldn't take that long to trade your way out at a stable price with a coin like this. Meh, congrats to the buyers of that dump I guess. Maybe more to come.

Oh wait I get it, panic chase of blackcoin rally that is already over and drawing in suckers. Hate to be cynical but...

It's probably someone who needs the BTC. I hope they aren't getting suckered into the Ether IPO.. Lulz.
527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 25, 2014, 03:54:26 AM
Actually I have done it many times in real life.  Sadly, the people I know in real life don't have the alts that I need.  I have done the same deal many times in real life.

If I am to escrow the BTCs, then there's not much of a risk.  I don't need more than 2 BTCs worth, so whoever will be the first will be the only one to take advantage of my offer.  I have over 100 BTCs myself, I am sponsored by a well known Poker Site named Betfair and have over half a million in tournament winnings in poker (which isn't my bread and butter).   I have many well known friends in the poker community that would vouch for me (which are known world wide).

How about this - I'll load up 2 BTC worth of Cloak on https://lazycoins.com/ and you buy them from me. It's the same as using an escrow service.
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 25, 2014, 03:41:16 AM
Hi,

  I have been day trading alts since January and have made a bot to do all my work.  I am not really interested in investing in any new coins as I already have too much in alts at the moment and not trading some of the more popular is also wasted money.  

  This is what I am offering anyone interested.  If you loan me your coins (I only need about 1-2BTC worth) I will use them to trade and give you 35% of profits from the coins.  Yes I understand that there will be a lot of people saying that this is a scam and so on and so forth but I have a lot of backing.  In the poker community I have done hundred of thousands of dollars in transactions with a flawless record and am fairly well known.  I just do not wish to invest anymore BTCs in alts that I do not know enough about.  I have also borrowed with interest (and paid back fully) about 100 BTCs for trading purposes when the volume was about 20x what it is now.

  If anyone is interested please PM me, the three coins I currently am not trading that I would be looking for are the following:

CLOAK
XMR
SYNC

  So please PM me if interested, if you post in this coin thread I may miss your post.

  Thanks

First of all, Wierd.  Second, so if you lose my money I am just shit out of luck?  But if you make money I only get 35%?  No thanks.   I think any smart trader l, or person would just invest the BTC themselves and then keep 100% of the profits.  Sorry but GTFO

No, sorry I did not mention this but I guarantee a profit.  No matter what happens you will get a profit and the profit is normally about 2-3% per day.  It varies depending on the volume.  No matter what happens the coins will be returned when requested, in full.

It's really funny how people yell out scam without knowing anything.  I am also ready to escrow the equivalent in BTC to someone we can both agree on.

I also don't understand why you say you would make more holding on to the coin?  You will be making close to 1% on the coin each day (this is payable in btc, not CLOAK however), so you will have your initial coins plus the profits in btc which you can buy more CLOAK if you wish.

Lulz. Listen to yourself. You just walked into a room of strangers, asked for $1200-$1400 dollars and promised to give them a "guaranteed" profit. You should try that in real life and see how many people take you up on your offer.

529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 25, 2014, 01:54:03 AM
When you guys get a chance - put a leash on your rabid trailer trash dog MasterMined710. He's going all across the internet on a Cloakcoin FUDpack smear campaign. Let's keep the debate technical. I doubt DRK wants to get into a shit tossing competition with Cloak. There's plenty of people we can recruit for the job. I was one of the first DRK miners/investors. Although I have moved my funds elsewhere, I haven't resorted to the level of shit that some of the newer DRK holders have gone to protect their investment.
Sorry, as a potential future cloak investor (not at current prices) and current investor in other anon coins i just want my technical questions answered.

I have NEVER posted anything in the official self moderated cloakcoin  ANN thread.
 I have NEVER  ad hominem attacked anyone either (rabid trailer trash dog).

 Y'all need to put a leash on bobssurplus and others in the cloak community who troll the (unmoderated) official DRK ANN thread.
The XC community has done a great job on that front lately and y'all could learn a thing or two from them (i'm not a current xc investor).
Have some respect and stay out of the ANN threads with FUD and trolling.
I will start a thread for civilized discussion/debate of all the anon coins. Tough questions will be welcome but trolling and name calling will not.


We don't need to learn anything from XC or take advice from you.

When you go around the net starting reddit FUD sub-threads in r/Cloak, posting FUD in the comment sections of Cloakcoin related articles and YouTube videos - you get classified as a gutter trash trader. Your posts have absolutely nothing to do with technical information. All you are doing is planting fear, uncertainty and doubt in the minds of potential investors i.e premine, ninja launch, instamine, vaporware etc. You've posted this same exact post all over the net and yet you can't prove any of it. I hope you know that some of Cloaks biggest holders and advocates are also some of DRKs biggest holders. You should think about that one real hard next time you decide to get drunk and troll the net with your BS.



Cloakcoin at a glance...
The in wallet btc exchange and marketplace looks interesting but…
(oops, just found out the in wallet exchange is actually just an api from a small centralized non-trustless exchange and not actually a decentralized trustless wallet to wallet exchange.)

Cloakcoin had a failed Ninja launch with a 7 day pow 4.5 million coin instamine that has a 6% pos inflation issue. it's also a self-moderated thread that has been censored to cover up launch issues.

so far cloak looks to be mostly vaporware but time will tell. anon devs with closed source unreviewed features is also troubling. it has lots of problems to overcome but it could give xc (1% 2%+ premined, 3 week, 4 million+ coin instamine, self-moderated thread) a run in the pos lane. i may still invest in cloak but i think i’ll wait for more solid info and the inevitable big dump before buying in. congratulations to those who instamined all the coins in the first 7 days. when those people start dumping just a small part of their holdings it will be epically brutal.

you may say that darkcoin also had a  instamine issue the first few days and you would be correct, darkcoin should have been relaunched. drk was however distributed very well over the next few months for pennies because no one knew how big the anon market would be.
the same can't be said of cloak and xc as the anon hype created by darkcoin caused instaminers to hold those instamined coins waiting for the perfect opportunity/liquidity to dump.

the cryptobloat cryptonote coins have worse compatibility issues than cloak and xc preventing mass adoption as well as bloating issues that are supposedly being worked on but it's just theoretical vaporware fixes right now.

darkcoin is a superior pow coin purposely based on bitcoin for easy integration everywhere bitcoin is (this is huge). plus i won't even get into the unlimited 2.0 functionality possibilities of the trustless decentralized masternode system or all the other drk innovations like x-11, dgw, sporks and the fastest/instant anon transactions (darksend+) on the market.
the only question is who will take 2nd place to darkcoin?

any questions?  Grin
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 24, 2014, 11:53:31 PM
Panic dump on Mintpal, da fuck is going on?

You call that a panic dump? Cheesy

It is is less than 5 BTC, just some dude cashing in or perhaps a couple of dudes, it is not a dump.

My fault cashed about 14 BTC over the past hour.

Perfect timing... I'll take those cloak ty very much

You're welcome. Needed the cash. Good Luck!!

Ty Sir!

I'm impressed so far with Lazcoins interface. My Cloak deposit was picked up immediately after I hit send. It took about a minute to fully clear. Price entry field on the sell side could use a little work.. it seems that it isn't registering the mouse cursor at the desired decimal place. Everything else looks really good so far. I really like the tabbed markets concept! It makes it a lot easier to trade on multiple markets. Now for someone to buy my Cloak xD

Really? Why do I only see 1 sell order of 1 Cloak and the trading history empty? Shocked

It's a new exchange that's been under development for some time now. Looks like they're just starting their marketing efforts.

Lots of of potential with a killer roadmap. LazyPay looks like a Bitpay/Coinbase merchant service that's due out when they get their licensing sorted.
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 24, 2014, 08:01:58 PM
I'm too busy today to be reading all this cryptomess...

But for myself and other exceptional cloak investors, if anyone is up to speed on the general reaction/responses Cloak has been receiving from the darkweb peoples... would kindly share your theories/thoughts on how well Cloak is being received :] Huh

Would be massively appreciated.

The overall reaction has been pretty good. Enough to activate a smear campaign from the competing currencies. I actually found the guy who has been going around spreading FUD on the articles, youtube and reddit. He's basically copy/pasting the same thing everywhere. If you take a look at his post history you'll find he's a DRK masternode holder..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=137623

The general consensus is the they want to see PoSA in the wild before they'll come aboard. I can't blame them either with all of the scams and broken promises happening in the altcoin space.
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 24, 2014, 05:12:08 PM
Snipped

I don't normally engage in these type of discussions, but since you indicated to be an early DRK investor, I will indulge this one time.

I don't condone what any of the "DRK holders" are doing on another thread, there is absolutely no reason to do this. May be a bad apple here and there. However, 100% of the time you can trace it back to the sellers/PnDers/Traders of other "anonymous" coins coming to DRK thread first and riling people up here, because this thread is not moderated. It has been an absolute advertisement for other coins thread and a FUD thread. All this while people are not doing any of their homework and playing with their money, siding with certain camps and generally being idiotic. DRK bashing continues on ALL the anon coin threads. From HERO members, to newbies.

I had a chat with Evan before the CN coins came to limelight and he indicated that porting Ring Sigs to DRK would be an easy way as far as transaction privacy was concerned. It would not have taken more than a few days to do it. But he didn't take this route. He had long term plans via Masternodes.

To others, obviously do your due diligence but you ain't seen nothing yet. Don't believe in any FUD. People are throwing jargons and marketing like there is no tomorrow, mainly because DRK leads anon market.


Exactly. I just wish people would let the technology speak for itself, instead of resorting to gutter trash tactics. Tbh, I wish all promising anon technology success in the future. Hopefully the dream of  100% financial privacy will be a reality one day.

I want a leash!

OK!

Coolstoryteller

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Interesting. I didn't know bitcointalk had access to that information. Good to know xD
533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 24, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
As far as marketing goes I think Bill Hicks said it best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo
Paid marketing only matters for scam coins. If PoSa works word of mouth will be the only marketing we would ever need. It would also add enormous amount of trust in the devs and as we all know trust is the most important factor for every currency.

See you on the moon  Cool

I agree with you that word of mouth will spread Cloak around; However, we'll still need a professional marketing effort to reach people beyond bitcointalk. The whole point of marketing is to spread awareness of a product to the target market. Our efforts will be targeting journalists, not just crypto users. Hiring a professional that is skilled in this area (media distribution) will only increase awareness and accelerate the word of mouth effect.
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 24, 2014, 04:24:05 PM
When you guys get a chance - put a leash on your rabid trailer trash dog MasterMined710. He's going all across the internet on a Cloakcoin FUDpack smear campaign. Let's keep the debate technical. I doubt DRK wants to get into a shit tossing competition with Cloak. There's plenty of people we can recruit for the job. I was one of the first DRK miners/investors. Although I have moved my funds elsewhere, I haven't resorted to the level of shit that some of the newer DRK holders have gone to protect their investment.
535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Poll] What anonymous coin will succed? on: July 24, 2014, 03:57:12 PM
I have to highlight it again. Please do not attack other coins instead tell us what makes your favourite so special!
Thank you.
sorry, my bad. i thought this was a thread to debate the different coins. if i have time later i'll start a thread like that and post the link here so we can get to the bottom of all the claims to superiority. may the best coin win!



Cloakcoin at a glance...
The in wallet btc exchange and marketplace looks interesting but…
(oops, just found out the in wallet exchange is actually just an api from a small centralized non-trustless exchange and not actually a decentralized trustless wallet to wallet exchange.)

Cloakcoin had a failed Ninja launch with a 7 day pow 4.5 million coin instamine that has a 6% pos inflation issue. it's also a self-moderated thread that has been censored to cover up launch issues.

so far cloak looks to be mostly vaporware but time will tell. anon devs with closed source unreviewed features is also troubling. it has lots of problems to overcome but it could give xc (1% 2%+ premined, 3 week, 4 million+ coin instamine, self-moderated thread) a run in the pos lane. i may still invest in cloak but i think i’ll wait for more solid info and the inevitable big dump before buying in. congratulations to those who instamined all the coins in the first 7 days. when those people start dumping just a small part of their holdings it will be epically brutal.

you may say that darkcoin also had a  instamine issue the first few days and you would be correct, darkcoin should have been relaunched. drk was however distributed very well over the next few months for pennies because no one knew how big the anon market would be.
the same can't be said of cloak and xc as the anon hype created by darkcoin caused instaminers to hold those instamined coins waiting for the perfect opportunity/liquidity to dump.

the cryptobloat cryptonote coins have worse compatibility issues than cloak and xc preventing mass adoption as well as bloating issues that are supposedly being worked on but it's just theoretical vaporware fixes right now.

darkcoin is a superior pow coin purposely based on bitcoin for easy integration everywhere bitcoin is (this is huge). plus i won't even get into the unlimited 2.0 functionality possibilities of the trustless decentralized masternode system or all the other drk innovations like x-11, dgw, sporks and the fastest/instant anon transactions (darksend+) on the market.
the only question is who will take 2nd place to darkcoin?

any questions?  Grin

I'm sorry, I stopped reading when I read "failed ninja launch". This launch wasn't promoted as much as some other coins, but there was a Cloakcoin thread on this forum since the very beginning, and I started mining right away. Everyone had the same opportunity for a week, and the network showed that people were mining Cloak. That's why it was upwards of 100 Ghz the entire week. Just because you and others didn't check the announcements thread often enough to notice does not make it an instamine. Do you mind explaining what launch issues occurred?
looks like this is not the thread to debate in but i may start my own thread where we can debate these things more thoroughly.

Interesting spam post MasterMined710. I look around the net and all I see is this message spammed on the cloak reddit, the comment sections where ever cloak is mentioned i.e youtube, news articles. It's nice to finally gain root access privileges to the FUD. Looking at your post history it seems you're a Darkcoin Masternode holder - so it's easy to see where the bias comes from. Anyone with any sense can just look at your post history and find out that the only thing that backups up your FUD is your financial agenda.

If you actually did any type of research you wouldn't be embarrassing yourself all across the internet. There's a big difference between a debate and just making BS up along the way to justify your claim. You and your kind are the cancer of the crypto market. Please go back to pushing shopping carts at Wal-Mart, your level of intelligence would be a lot more appreciated there.
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 24, 2014, 03:44:41 PM
Do u guys plan to do anything like a Cloak Docs? P2P encrypted file transmission is really important for privacy protection. And if Cloak platform could integrate a open source ftp client/server into its platform, it'll be a great plus.
With that, we could find a file server with the pub key of the owner and then login and download.
It's funny, we could send some coins to server and buy service. It's digital store!
taking advantage of PoSA network, CLOAK is coming....... Just in time for us to disappear

Edit: new to this coin community like what i have been reading

Hey Chronic,

If I remember correctly x11joe (OneMarket Dev) ann a week or so ago this would be included in the OneMarket update. It might be possible to see it as a standalone feature leading up to Onemarket.

537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 24, 2014, 02:14:52 PM
I'm impressed so far with Lazcoins interface. My Cloak deposit was picked up immediately after I hit send. It took about a minute to fully clear. Price entry field on the sell side could use a little work.. it seems that it isn't registering the mouse cursor at the desired decimal place. Everything else looks really good so far. I really like the tabbed markets concept! It makes it a lot easier to trade on multiple markets. Now for someone to buy my Cloak xD
538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Goldman Sachs Involved in project Ethereum... ARE YOU F... KIDDING ME on: July 24, 2014, 05:19:57 AM
bumpity bump bump bump
539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 24, 2014, 05:04:21 AM
Hi guys,

Just dropping by to let you guys know that Cloak markets are now live on www.lazycoins.com

Thanks

Nice. Lazycoin's UX/UI is one of the best I've seen so far; However, the fees seem a bit steep in relationship to the other exchanges. My suggestion would be to set your fees to/or below Mintpal's level and you should see some nice growth. Maybe even 0% fees for the first 14/30 days of a user signing up then I think you'll do quite well for yourselves. 100% cold storage is a nice touch considering the recent coin theft.

Good luck!
https://lazycoins.com/security WOW!
+100

Advice noted! 0% fee and some other features coming in the next few days.

Help us improve our site while in beta and try make some test trades.

Awesome! I'll keep an eye out for sure. I haven't been trading much Cloak though, just been hodling like a boss xD I'll send some that way though and do some test trading. Hopefully we get some more Cloak on there so I can test out the buying side Smiley

Feel free to join us in IRC http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#CloakCoin

I'll be sure to send you some feedback!
540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 24, 2014, 03:23:58 AM

You're in early now.  Enjoy the ride.  I'm with you in regard to the fact that I'm probably high print on any of the last upward spikes in cloak.  Hold with conviction.  There are 18 BTC between 'last price' and 150k on cryptsy.  That is 18x612=11016K.  It's not gonna take much to move the market and besides that, there is not more supply available.  We may see a mini-bubble in prices, it just happens sometimes.  

Bravo to you all with those 12-18K prints.  

OK this means nothing, it also does not take much to tank the price back to 18K.  In fact, this is true of many altcoins, and the less liquid they are, the easier it is to move the price, but it still means nothing.

Tanking Cloak down to 18k doesn't take much? Lulz. That's easy for you to say. Why don't you give it a try.
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