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541  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: November 11, 2014, 11:35:29 PM
One option:

- several unofficial threads in the general Altcoins section
- a single new official thread only for announcements

Opinions?

I prefer open information and communication.

I think this option would provide that quite a lot better than a single moderated official thread.

Your post is not clear.  You mention ONE option then provide 2 vague scenarios.  What are you looking for an opinion on?

The two scenarios were intended to be combined. We'd have one thread just for announcements (in the ANN section), which would keep them getting drowned out, and then we'd have unofficial ones in the general Altcoins section for moderated/unmoderated discussion.

We'd post announcements into the unofficial one(s) as well, of course.

I was wondering what people would think of this idea.
542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: November 11, 2014, 11:30:22 PM
One option:

- several unofficial threads in the general Altcoins section
- a single new official thread only for announcements

Opinions?

I prefer open information and communication.

I think this option could provide that quite a lot better than a single moderated official thread.
543  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: November 11, 2014, 11:22:10 PM
One option:

- several unofficial threads in the general Altcoins section
- a single new official thread only for announcements

Opinions?
544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
Hey Synechist, where did the new xcurrency thread go? I'm getting this error message:

"The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you."

Thanks in advance for your response.

We're wondering the same thing. It seems someone deleted it.

Perhaps, since we still have the old XC thread in the ANN section, they erroneously considered it a spam thread.

It's very weird.

I've written to Theymos about it and will report back if I get a response.



Here's your answer:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855007.0

Thanks Battbot.

Pretty incomplete answer in my opinion, but whatever.





10 threads bashing Dan and Blocknet? No problem.
1 new XC thread? Trash it.

Seriously, the moderation policies here are an insult to our collective intelligence. You are right to just let it go, it would be maddening to argue about it.

One option:

- several unofficial threads in the general Altcoins section
- a single new official thread only for announcements

Opinions?
545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: November 11, 2014, 11:19:26 PM
Well, at least it wont be long till we can celebrate page 2000 rather than starting again. lol

Hopefully that bot will keep things relatively under control  Huh

That's part of the problem: Teka would have to keep his computer running 24/7, which isn't feasible.

We need a different thread.
546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 11:10:06 PM
Hey Synechist, where did the new xcurrency thread go? I'm getting this error message:

"The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you."

Thanks in advance for your response.

We're wondering the same thing. It seems someone deleted it.

Perhaps, since we still have the old XC thread in the ANN section, they erroneously considered it a spam thread.

It's very weird.

I've written to Theymos about it and will report back if I get a response.



Here's your answer:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855007.0

Thanks Battbot.

Pretty incomplete answer in my opinion, but whatever.

547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 10:47:15 PM
Hey Synechist, where did the new xcurrency thread go? I'm getting this error message:

"The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you."

Thanks in advance for your response.

We're wondering the same thing. It seems someone deleted it.

Perhaps, since we still have the old XC thread in the ANN section, they erroneously considered it a spam thread.

It's very weird.

I've written to Theymos about it and will report back if I get a response.



Edit: we've re-opened the old thread for the time being.


548  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 07:02:10 PM
Alns: banned.

Don't come back until your posts respect the perspective of the people you're talking to.

549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: November 11, 2014, 06:59:47 PM
I will remind you that it is not ethical to comment (even more hype) about the price of a coin in which you have active involvement and financial interest.

You still haven't given me a reason why you think this is unethical.

As such I still have no way of understanding why you think it is.

I've wondered (above) whether you think it's unethical because I'm invested in BLOCK.

I responded that:

(a) I think it's neither necessary nor common to be in an impartial position, and

(b) all that one needs to do to make one's comments on price ethical is to disclose one's bias.

Do you disagree? If so, I'm very willing to hear reasons why you do.
550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 06:54:10 PM
People, please do your research before posting.

This page just got cluttered with stuff that was well-explained more times than I can remember for the entire duration of the ITO.

It's on the OP.

It's in at least two press releases.

Seriously.


551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 06:21:00 PM

Good news everyone.

I can confirm that Bter has now burned its unsold BLOCK.

Bter's transactions:

23b7f2b6e1f02819fa29a9aba30ad63bd20f047c58ef6146198894b3ff7fb9c9
23b7f2b6e1f02819fa29a9aba30ad63bd20f047c58ef6146198894b3ff7fb9c9
9539e0605b67ee56adcdd37cdc886fc40a3a47ee5930118a29f5db0a106b2a5f
5497182e246837fef390f597e24681b2fab093e83d845d4674985e897572e9ac
c761531d2e81761a172c547251721826317649b681534bc8764fd4d4dbf2f2e8
fe510efba90309b2d4226b141c26f8fef52e64e9432ca4b954d4214d7df3dfe7
4eb87e75bf8b3ba49d920d3f4822493dc5be50f00a844b121dad05937f0163f4


Total BLOCK destroyed by Bter: 1,751,072.99949217

Unspendable address: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/block/address.dws?BTngbpkVTh3nGGdFdufHcG5TN7hXYuX31z.htm

Total money supply: 3,876,925.04 BLOCK



The only BLOCK still unburnt is about 5 BTC worth at CoinGateway.
It's reserved for outstanding payments of discounts.
Customers have 3 days to claim their discounts.
CoinGateway will burn its remaining BLOCK on Friday.
552  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 05:34:42 PM
There is a sell wall in Polo of 7.62329923BTC @ 0.00025000. Is that from the original ITO Huh

No. Of course not.
553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 05:21:36 PM


3. As quoted in earlier posts, is it like swap process to convert into NHZ asset? Newbies need to know about this.



Great question....I would like an answer to this one myself.....  Tongue

The specifics haven't been decided yet.

We'll let you know closer to the time. (No rush really.)

554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 04:37:50 PM
A lot of talk here about mining and staking; I thought it was mentioned somewhere that staked or mined coins will not count, only tokens that have been purchased can be exchanged for shares. Can someone from the blocknet team clarify this. Thanks.
Yes, this needs to be clarified. I understood that the tokens we get from staking are just as valid as those purchased in the ITO, and the devs would destroy tokens so that the overall number does not increase.

If thats the case then whats the point of staking ..........someone NEEDS to clear this up asap  Angry

The only staked coins that were destroyed were ones during the ITO.  BUT, it was just the total number of staked coins that were burned.  They didn't come out of individual people's wallets.  Dev burned an equivalent amount of coins so that the number of staked coins DURING THE ITO was offset.  ANY coins staked AFTER the ITO was finished are VALID.  IMO.

Yes this is correct as far as I'm aware.
555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: November 11, 2014, 04:35:32 PM
It is comforting to see that you are eloquent enough to write the above sentences, however your behavior and posts seem to be in contrast with kenotic activity.

I'm quite comfortable discussing the ethicality of my actions.
I'm also quite comfortable, at present, with my actions, because I perceive them to be ethical. Happy to consider the possibility that they're not, of course.

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First of all, you have vested financial interest regarding blocknet and it is very hard to detach oneself from financial position and be unbiased observer. For instance, one of your latest post was about the blocknet price:
 DO NOT POST SESC LINKS
and yet the price did go down.

So you think that I'm trying to hype the price in order to deliver a return on my investment?
What I stated is that "it's unclear whether it'll go down again at all."
I do not believe that this constitutes hype in any sense.
Neither do I believe that it's necessary to be an unbiased observer before one can give predictions on the price (not that I gave a prediction, mind you). All that's necessary is to disclose your bias (which in my case is obvious).

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You cannot make these type of statements and consider yourself an ethical person. You remind me of a HBS professor of ethics who was on the BoD of Marriott before they did a Chariot project that screwed their debtholders big time.

I believe that the statement above is ethically quite alright. There's nothing whatsoever wrong with it as far as I can see.
However I'm quite open to be shown what could be wrong with it. Can you spell it out for me?

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Even writing books about ethics doesn't mean your actions are ethical.

Of course. Knowledge about ethics doesn't necessitate acting ethically.
But my reason for talking about ethics here wasn't to prove I act ethically, it was to explain why I act the way I act. I think I act ethically, but anyone's welcome to engage me in discussion about ethics and thereby potentially change the way I decide to act.

556  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 04:14:10 PM
Thanks mxxxxxx for your reply, but I don't think it answers my question. I understand that eventually all our BLOCK tokens will be converted to something more useful in the NHZ market and that after that time there is no point in keeping them.

But the question is how many BLOCK tokens can we convert at that time. As an example, my wallet has 24 BLOCKs I bought, and 0.02 obtained through staking. So how many of these will qualify for conversion to the NHZ market, 24.00 or 24.02?

 

All of them, as far as I know.
557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 03:50:27 PM
nigttran: banned.

Don't come here and beat us up with your opinions.

If you like, go and create a newbie account, come back here, and respect the community more.

Reading this might help: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.msg9304090#msg9304090

558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 01:17:08 PM

Thank you SR member

Oh, nice! I hadn't noticed.

Thanks :-)
559  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: November 11, 2014, 01:11:35 PM
Arlyn, you keep doing that. You are calling people "trolls" including myself.

I don't think you're a troll. I think that some (but not all) of your posts undermine constructive critical discussion.

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Thank you for trying to defend your understanding of ethics, however I have to say that you have very strange understanding what does "ethical" mean. I would suggest you reading on ethics. HBS have very nice papers on business ethics, you can pick the ones you like. In the meantime, please, stop using the word "ethics".

Ethics is one of my specialties. If you look me up on the internet you'll see that my background is in analytical philosophy. I've done a lot of reading on ethics and metaethics, and several formal courses in it too.

Lastly, a component of my ongoing research in sign action is specifically about a "kenotic" mechanism in semiosis. In processes of sign action, when an entity comes to function as a sign-vehicle, it expresses a fascinatingly "unselfish" or "self-sacrificing" tendency. (I use these terms in quotation marks because sign-action pertains as much to inanimate interactions as it does to personal ones, and so the terms only apply analogously.)

Now since sign-action is a model of how things come to be, this "kenotic" principle partially comprises the being of things.

Secondly, since sign-action is a model not only of how things come to be, but also of why they are what they are rather than being something else, there's a normative aspect to it.

This normativity in the being of things is the germ of ethicality in general: it is able to ground an explanation of how it is even possible in the first place for there to be an ethics of anything. So the thesis of this component of my work is that "kenosis" is part of the functioning of everything, and it is through kenotic activity that ethics arises.


The above should help explain my focus on ethics, and why ethicality informs the way I approach my work in crypto.
In particular, my emphasis on empathy - on knowing the perspective of another - arises from my view that kenotic ("unselfish") activity grounds ethicity.

560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P on: November 11, 2014, 12:20:37 PM
Thank you

"-   Burn of unsold BLOCK on Bter: pending.

-   Burn of unsold BLOCK on CoinGateway: pending."

Those two still pending?

No



Cool where do you see that?

Edit: Are those Bter and coingateway ones?

23b7f2b6e1f02819fa29a9aba30ad63bd20f047c58ef6146198894b3ff7fb9c9

9539e0605b67ee56adcdd37cdc886fc40a3a47ee5930118a29f5db0a106b2a5f

5497182e246837fef390f597e24681b2fab093e83d845d4674985e897572e9ac

c761531d2e81761a172c547251721826317649b681534bc8764fd4d4dbf2f2e8

fe510efba90309b2d4226b141c26f8fef52e64e9432ca4b954d4214d7df3dfe7

4eb87e75bf8b3ba49d920d3f4822493dc5be50f00a844b121dad05937f0163f4

PS: did you get back in with block?

I will confirm which entities made those transactions once Dan is awake.

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