It is reasonable to assume that the few users who still do generate coins, do it at almost zero marginal cost, utilising resources that would have gone to waste anyhow. So it is not as ineffecient as it seems.
It is probably much more efficient to not have a anti-counterfeiting organization, or all the security guards to defend the gold vault, etc.
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Thanks for the welcome. Why did you loose interest? I think that the bitcoin system has some awkward aspects, in a word. The idea of generating (and verifying) coins through lengthy but otherwise meaningless computation is not very inspiring and introduces an inefficiency that is a barrier to widespread adoption, if it is not absolutely necessary. Then there is the problem of sustainability as the computational requirements appear to grow indefinitely over time. Finally, a finite number of coins can be hoarded and/or lost over time. Meanginless generations and intense computational requirement of creating new currencies is not an adoption barrier. The lack of business accepting bitcoin is. An average Joe Sixpack user won't care about generating bitcoin. It's just too complicated for him. He'll just use an online account to keep a wallet.
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Combine with public key encryption to verify that you are who you are across bitcoin sites would be great?
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the fed will never be able to get out if this.
we will first see massive deflation and depression, much worse than in the 1920's
Sound like a prediction that can be set to the test. All it need is the date of happening and specific level of unemployment rates, amongst other things. A reminder that I should continue and make progress everyday.
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Bitpredict is not dead! I just had another web application to attend to, one that will accept bitcoins!
I'll report on the payment integration with my new web app since it is relevant to know how I will implement such a system for bitpredict.
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As for the Mises people and what to call BC, I think many mises peeps are heavy into heavy metal, so they don't want to hear that people can just run a program on their 'puter to get money. No matter how noble the original intent of mises organisation or ANY organisation, they all build and grow and have self-interested people at their helm.
No, it's mostly their fans who say that.
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Why is this hard to understand?
It seem that our culture evolved to associate the positive notion of property right with evil copying monopolies.
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For instance, I think that gold has really very few intrinsic value, but since prehistocical ages men have noticed the fact that gold could be used as a exchange medium (it obviously complied to the three characteristics : durable, divisable, portable).
Electronics, man. Electronics. IF gold are cheaper, than electronics would be cheaper too and we would use gold much more often in other area. If we ever mine asteroids, gold would cease to be money. An irony, if you think about it.
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2. Advertising clearing house like http://projectwonderful.com. Suggested by mskwik.(I used projectwonderful to make tiny bit of money. I wonder if I can get more money from a bitcoin advertising clearing house) We are working on a bitcoin business directory so an advertising clearance house would be a natural fit with this. There is one developer working on the directory at the moment so another drupal developer or two to help us out would get it done a lot quicker. Moved #2 to niches being worked upon.
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The idea here is to support and reward originators rather than taking advantage of them as well as supporting ad free content.
I don't know why but I think I'll stick to ad-infested contents while using ads-blocker. N0body is going to pay to listen to you if they got thousands of other things that they can read, unless you're freakishly good.
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My only line of reasoning is: I don't think we should be imposing moral or creating rules of what should and should not be done with this. If we don't like it, we don't use it. Stay clear of all the things you oppose to, but let others do what they like with their own lifes... so as long as they don't affect negatively the lifes of others, but that's a completely different issue.
Hey, it's the site operator and me's discretion to slap down any bet we like. But, I would like to give the site users to moderate themselves by killing a bet within say, 5 hours. Let just say I don't want bitpredict to be a source of calamity in the world.
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The simplest way to determine the outcome is to automate it completely.
The funds are frozen until one outcome is chosen by people who represent 50% or more of the betting stake. At that point, everything is paid out to those who favored the chosen outcome.
It's in no-one's interest for the funds to be tied up forever, so the participants will find a way to get 50% support for one outcome or the other.
All the organisers need to do is to run the website, not to get involved in controversies.
Automation would be basically the site gathering data and than computing the result and then paying the bettors accordingly. No humans involved other than the site operator/me coding it.
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I also suspect that the rate of inflation is greater than what the market can absorb. That will depend on whether Bitcoin gets substantial coverage in the mainstream media. I would argued that mainstream media is not just one of the factor. One possibility is that the booming amount of web services that accept bitcoin will drive the price of bitcoin up. If the media noticed the growing number of web services accepting bitcoins, than it goes to reason that media are compounding factors. It's a chicken and the egg thing.
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who [confirms the outcome of a scenario] and distributes the coins?
The simplest way is to let the participants confirm the outcome and have the site distribute the BTC. Here's how it works: Every scenario has an end date. After that date, all participants are asked to log in to their accounts and record whether they lost or won. As each loser confirms losing, the site divides among the winners that loser's contribution to the pool. A proportionate amount of the winners' contribution is also paid out to the winners, ensuring the pool maintains the same ratio of bets for and against the outcome that it had when betting stopped. But, you ask, what keeps the losers honest? On a pseudonymous site, each user account can have an associated feedback score which helps determine honest players. On an anonymous site, the winners can offer a partial refund to losers who pay their bets. For example: losers who confirm their loss will be refunded 5% of their bet. As long as the money is stored in the site account (so the losers can't use it), the losers' best interest will be to confirm their loss and retrieve the refund. This system minimizes demands on the site operator (hopefully keeping costs low) but also protects both parties from unforeseen events. For example, imagine a bet 10 years ago on "who will win the year 2000 U.S. presidential election?" Those losers who don't believe the reported outcome was fairly determined can refuse to pay their bets, or better yet, they can request a high refund rate. If the winners agree about the unfairness, they will offer the high refund rate. But, you complain, my money and my winnings will be subject to the whim of some sore loser! This is true, but a good site will let you sell you future share of the winnings on an open market. You'll receive money now and some entrepreneur will try to collect from the sore loser. -Dave I am not sure if this is fair, but I'll implement your suggestion when the time come. The best way to find out something is to actually test and see how it goes.
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Well, some bets will be excluded on what the site operator and me thinks it will encourage dangerous and unethical events to happen. Examples are not up for discussion.
Allowing anonymity while enforcing exogenous bets is the biggest challenge IMO. For now, I am going with the normal user account. It might change in the future.
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sorry if this question was asked already: what will the bitcoin prediction market actually predict?
People put up a bet on things that they will think will happen. For example, who will get elected in 2012 US presidental election. Will the republican take over congress? The marketshare of the search engines. It will be mostly be something specific and easy to verify. that would be fantastic. I am ready to join! Well, some bets will be excluded on what the site operator and me thinks it will encourage dangerous and unethical events to happen. Examples are not up for discussion. I am curious if your sites design will be open source. Certain dangerous or possibly unethical predictions were one of the advantages I saw to bitcoin, although, obviously, you would not want to be the site admin responsible for allowing such predictions to be made. It is open source. I just have not decided a license yet.
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sorry if this question was asked already: what will the bitcoin prediction market actually predict?
People put up a bet on things that they will think will happen. For example, who will get elected in 2012 US presidental election. Will the republican take over congress? The marketshare of the search engines. It will be mostly be something specific and easy to verify. that would be fantastic. I am ready to join! Well, some bets will be excluded on what the site operator and me thinks it will encourage dangerous and unethical events to happen. Examples are not up for discussion.
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Well, I was busy the whole day with another web application, a MVP if you will. I was close to completion so I decided to pour all my effort into getting it online. With any luck, I will integrate bitcoin as a payment option.
As for this project, it will resume as soon as I fixes things that went really wrong and reveal the MVP for feedbacks.
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In any case, the price for bitcoin is stubbornly stable.
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I'd like to see Bitcoin payments implemented into Tahoe-LAFS (distributed online storage), like Zooko was on here suggesting. I would help, but I'm just learning how to program.
Is this just a payment option added to an existing service or is it actually a new service?
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