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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Long Term Investment: Teenagers
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on: November 30, 2010, 01:11:24 AM
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this is one of the reasons i got involved in bitcoin, hyperlocalism & sustainable community mentality is picking up some serious steam
Hyperlocalism is for tree hugging hippie. If you want world peace, have global trade!
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Long Term Investment: Teenagers
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on: November 29, 2010, 10:26:46 PM
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16 year old here. I introduced the concept to many friends and a whole class. No dice.
Give them a virtual world to hook them up to. Then they discover that play money is real money. Give them a gateway that allows subscribing to porn sites using bitcoins, then they discover the true value of bitcoins... it's more than money, it's a great way to keep prying eyes away from your business, or at the very least heavily increase the barrier. I don't want puritanical parents breathing up our collective neck.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Government vs Bitcoin ?
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on: November 29, 2010, 10:14:52 PM
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Was anybody here talking about reprap being finished in few years ? Reprap is probably decades from "completion" meaning when it will be possible to print something complex with it, without the need of any human intervention...
Rerap made possible makerbot. Makerbot make more makerbot operators, who are hacker type. More hackers mean more effort. More effort mean more inventing and innovation. Currently, you can basically mass produce on a small scale plastic objects.
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Wikileaks contact info?
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on: November 29, 2010, 04:49:26 PM
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Maybe somebody should sell robots that record activities of government agents for bitcoins.
We could have...
"YOUR LITTLE BROTHERS ARE WATCHING YOU!"
Plus, camera tend to prevent abuse of authority by policemen.
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Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement
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on: November 29, 2010, 04:32:59 PM
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Current copyright law allows for personal fair use, where you can use use your computer any way you see fit as long as what you do is for yourself. Reverse engineering, for example, is explicitly indemnified and mentioned in copyright code as legal... contrary to what some EULAs would have you think. What it doesn't permit is for you to take the hard work of others and give it to 3rd parties without permission.
That still allows you to control the property of people who have not dealt with you. Contracts can enforce non-distribution of works (and even prevent reverse engineering), but if someone breaks this contract, later users of the "leaked" work can't be held to the contract terms. If I have not agreed to give up some of my property rights with a contract, then under no circumstances can you control my use of my property. I believe enforcing EULA is akin to enforcing a contract that say you must not pour milk with your cereal. The only way an EULA is worth anything is to actually sign it using public key cryptography.
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Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement
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on: November 29, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
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Futhermore, to you Kiba, if you don't give a shit about how I earn money, don't ever expect to get anything I made. Certainly you shouldn't expect any sort of software maintenance on my software and if it permanently corrupts you computer, perhaps you ought to reconsider how I earn my money. You talk about freedom here, but you are taking and not giving back. There might just be some cool software I could write if only I had better means to support myself, which is sort of the point of being able to find financial incentives for creating stuff of that nature.
On the contrary, I produce stuff that people purchase. DUH, people actually buy my art!!!!!!!!!11111 Why do you think I do these kind of crazy stuff, because I think I can support myself without copyright! Now, you're trying to resists because you can't see how you can make money. You can't be brothered to experiment. In other words, you have no balls. Let me tell you what... RESISTANCE IS FUTILE! Adapt or Die! Good luck.
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Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement
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on: November 29, 2010, 06:50:51 AM
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Bottom line: intellectual property of any kind infringes on my real property rights. Your copyright prevents me from using my computer in the way that I choose, and is therefore immoral.
RHorning is ignoring our assumption and world views. He tries to dodge my argument about selling cars with "reproduction rights". Duh, if I have a thing I owned, I should be able to reproduce the object in its likeness whenever I fricking want. I don't give a shit about you not making money. Go do something else.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Long Term Investment: Teenagers
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on: November 29, 2010, 06:02:57 AM
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Smart teen hang out on hacker forums and tech blogs or they find there way here like me. Stay away from skiddies as they will start scams then forget about bitcoin and lose that money forever.
Script kiddies... But anyway, not all smart teens hang out on hacker forums like this one or tech blogs, either.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Long Term Investment: Teenagers
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on: November 29, 2010, 05:52:35 AM
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Could you explain what you mean by the concept of earning bitcoins? Are you referring to BTC generation? I am an unemployed high-school student and will gladly accept any advice you can give for me to earn extra cash... Earning bitcoins by selling your services/goods. Selling art and other materials on ubitio.us is easy assuming you find 3 downloader for each of your investment. If you're a programmer, there's a few bounty laying around unclaimed. Otherwise, try fishing for people who want your programming service.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Long Term Investment: Teenagers
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on: November 29, 2010, 05:46:17 AM
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I thought of this the other day. Maybe high school cryptography or programming classes could be contacted or something. Kind of a "Look at this real world application of cryptography, oh by the way you might have noticed your national currency is going to collapse but this is secure" sort of thing. Where do smart teens hang out on the web?
We don't even have a cryptography topic in my AP computer science high school class.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Long Term Investment: Teenagers
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on: November 29, 2010, 05:39:22 AM
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We should finds way to introduce teenagers to bitcoin and the concept of earning bitcoins.
We knows that there are lot of unemployed teenagers who would like some extra cash.
Any ideas?
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