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4761  Other / Off-topic / I am 19. WTF Do I know? on: November 28, 2010, 09:02:31 PM
Am I such a fool for believing such a crazy idea like bitcoin can succeed?
4762  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 08:48:02 PM
If you want to give your stuff away to others, you should at least be free to do so.  At the moment, unfortunately, you do have to explicitly "license" your content to the public domain, as weird as that should seem.

I did not gave my art away, I sold them.
4763  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 08:44:38 PM

I don't understand the path or means to achieve the ends claimed here then.  Placing content into the public domain seems to me more akin to placing property into a public commons.  Property rights are about exclusive control of something, so if it is about property rights this seems like a backwards way of getting the goal accomplished.

We want people to have exclusive control over the patterns that they acquired. We don't want authors or large corporations controlling patterns you have in your mind, or have special privileges in the market.

We are not against contracts, signed voluntary, that disallow you to distribute it under certain term. However, we are against third parties being inflicted upon by contracts that they did not agree to.

That is the libertarian position.
4764  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Advertising Clearinghouse Bounty (1400 BTC or 350 USDs of BTC) by Noagendamarket on: November 28, 2010, 07:44:07 PM

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Update for things I just did:
- New database where Publishers can link keywords to their website(s) (no web connection atm.).
- Restructured some ugly code, looks much better now.
- Account screen for publishers allows now update of email address, bitcoin address and password.
</edit>

Follow Hippich's example of not registering but spending money on advertisement?

You also don't need an account to register and publish ads, in my opinion.
4765  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Government vs Bitcoin ? on: November 28, 2010, 07:16:43 PM
When you consider that, if successful, Bitcoin will have the world's most powerful special interests (governments and banks) arrayed against it, it is not unreasonable to make self-defense planning a top priority.  I think there should be an active group dedicated to thinking up "what if" scenarios, war gaming, development of alternative network topologies, etc.  In my view, P2P cryptocurrency is the most significant freedom-promoting development in our lifetimes, other than the internet itself.  Those who control their money control their destiny.  It will very likely accelerate the demise of the old-school hierarchical institutions (government and large corporations), but not without them waging an epic battle.  Things could get quite interesting in the next 10 years.  I agree with RHorning that the most significant threat is legislative, but the agorists among us are already itching to see large portions of the economy go underground.  The time is now to develop a sizable following for Bitcoin, especially among liberty-minded folks who will stick with us even if it becomes illegal to do so.

What will government do when it collapse and there's hyperinflation?

It may be also a really dangerous time. So it's definitely crucial to stabilize the world economy at that point, since we are so interdependent now.
4766  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 06:38:23 PM
It is also apparently a very high profile case.

Nonetheless, suing a very prominent individual who release stuff under the public domain might actually be dangerous.

If you sued Jason Rohrer, who make public domain games, there would be massive coverage by the gaming media.

What I find interesting here with this "Copyfree Movement" is the attacks against copyleft, such as demonstrated with this thread.  The real fight ought to be against those who would lock up all content and not permit any sort of public domain content from getting created in the first place.  I really wish that Eldred v. Ashcroft has a different result, and the dissenting opinion by Justice Breyer (certainly worth a read if you get a chance) about the attacks on the public domain through essentially perpetual copyright are by far and away of much greater concern.

Copyleft is merely one approach in an attempt to ensure that content made available to everybody will remain so.  I hope that a common area that we can agree upon is that "Steamboat Willie" can and ought to be in the public domain.  Some have argued that perhaps it already is too, but that is a digression that would involve the Disney legal team.

The goal of the movement is to abolish these institution, not perpetuate it.

What do we gain from applying copyleft? Sure, some protection from evil folks. Protections that make us dependent on intellectual property.

You misunderstood us as wanting to help people share. Sharing is nice, but that's not what we're about. It's about property right, damn it.
4767  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Letter to the CCC on: November 28, 2010, 06:16:11 PM
I been trying to talk to them, but the response is sporadic.

If anybody is in Germany and is willing to represent bitcoin, we might have a chance.
4768  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Kiba's Art Thread (Using Ubitious) on: November 28, 2010, 05:58:24 PM
Hmm, are you sure you're not confused?

Darn it, Kiba, you're doing very well out of me financially. Because I didn't save the image, I had to download it again. Each time I just close the browser window, thinking I won't need to see that version of the image again.

And no, I'm not confused. I'm talking about the hand that is higher up. It is over the girl's right breast, and the elbow is by her left side. So it's her left hand for sure. And yet the thumb is shown at the bottom.

You try to pose your own body in her position, and you will see that the thumb just can't go that way.

Don't forget, the girl's left shoulder is on the right of the drawing as we look at it, because the girl is facing us.

But although it's anatomically wrong, I kind of like it because it adds quite some ambiguity to the picture, i.e. "just what is going on here?".

Anyway, this time I'm saving the image for a couple of days, in case you manage to convince me that right is left and left is right.

Ah, thanks, I will redraw the left hand. Left and right are sooooo confusing.
4769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Government vs Bitcoin ? on: November 28, 2010, 05:49:16 PM

It seems hopeless and unwise though, for mainstream society to invest in a decentralized digital currency, which can at any point be hijacked and devalued by a powerful, centralized entity...

Attacking bitcoin with CPU power is one of the most stupid, expensive, difficult way to destroy a currency.
4770  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 05:44:58 PM
apparently you have not heard of the rather famous JMRI court case....

in brief: 'good guy' writes foss software. licensis it under the weak "artistic license". 'bad guy' goes and makes a closed-source offshoot of it, even files some patents, and then sues the original author for infringing his patent/copyright.

I know the JMRI court case well, but it's not a counterexample because (1) no-one gave anything away into the public domain (the software was permissively licensed), and (2) Katzer sued the original author for infringing his patent, NOT for infringing copyright.

For sure, the patent system is seriously broken, as is the court system, but even so Katzer lost in the end and "good guy" Jacobsen won.

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It is also apparently a very high profile case.

Nonetheless, suing a very prominent individual who release stuff under the public domain might actually be dangerous.

If you sued Jason Rohrer, who make public domain games, there would be massive coverage by the gaming media.
4771  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Kiba's Art Thread (Using Ubitious) on: November 28, 2010, 05:19:19 PM
Isn't the left hand the wrong way around? If I fold my left hand over my chest, my thumb is at the top, but you seem to have drawn the thumb at the bottom of the hand.

That's the right hand.

I mean the hand that appears to be clutching her right breast. If that's her right hand, there is some very odd contortion going on. And if it's her left hand, the thumb needs to be at the top.

Unless it really is someone else's right hand.

Hmm, are you sure you're not confused?
4772  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Operation Project Wonderful (225 BTC PAID) on: November 28, 2010, 05:17:28 PM
Today's advertising report:

Total expenses: .28 USD
Begins: 3 days ago.
Total pageviews: 921
Total clicks: 6
CPM: .30 USD
CPC: .05 USD
CTR: .65%
4773  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Kiba's Art Thread (Using Ubitious) on: November 28, 2010, 05:03:25 PM
Gottach draw better hands...

Isn't the left hand the wrong way around? If I fold my left hand over my chest, my thumb is at the top, but you seem to have drawn the thumb at the bottom of the hand.

That's the right hand.
4774  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto versus Ben Bernanke Rap Video on: November 28, 2010, 07:05:54 AM
Might as well write a rap:

This is revised, short introduction.

Receptionist: Welcome to the FEE conference on Austrian Economic.
Bernanke: Tell those Austrian crazies that I have arrived!
Nakamoto: And tell the Austrians that I have the solution
Receptionist: (looks to Nakamoto)...who are you?
Nakamoto: I invented a cryptocurrency called....BITCOIN!

.....on the speaker stage.....

Yeah, we oppose each other, economically
Battle for economic domination.
From the opposite side of the world
4775  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Earning 5 BTC A Week Challenge on: November 28, 2010, 06:49:17 AM
I've drawn about BTC 350 in 3 weeks of releasing Bitcoin payment gateways and PHP utilities. Can I get a cookie?

You get 3000 internet and 50 pound of bacons instead.
4776  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 06:43:30 AM

well, more power to you, whatever makes you happy.

but as i see it, protesting thievery by leaving your valuables on the sidewalk is not a functional long-term strategy. Smiley

There's some method to my madness.
4777  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Earning 5 BTC A Week Challenge on: November 28, 2010, 06:42:11 AM
Deadline is Saturday, December 4.


Here's my progress report thus far:

Sunday: 0.07 earned from art downloads thus far. Day is just beginning.
4778  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 06:21:03 AM
Evildoers' deeds could be used as political ammunition.

Mostly to damage the credibility of copyright and patent institution in question.

I won't say it is not without risk, to be copyfree.
4779  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Soulplaying.com (WIP) (15 days trial then Pay 4 dollars worth of bitcoins) on: November 28, 2010, 05:47:35 AM
Purchasing service from mtgox, almost complete. Need a bit of testing.
4780  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Earning 5 BTC A Week Challenge on: November 28, 2010, 05:44:10 AM
does trading in the market count? (aka, 'exchange services' Smiley ), or do you only count 'real goods and services' for the challenge?

Naturally, speculation in the currency market doesn't count.
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