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4741  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Earning 5 BTC A Week Challenge on: November 29, 2010, 04:56:12 AM
For Sunday:


I earned .18 from bencoder and another tester downloading picture. I earned .12 cents from my art download commission. I earned 1.5 bitcoins as bounty prize.

That total up to 1.80 BTC. Not bad.
4742  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Kiba's Art Thread (Using Ubitious) on: November 29, 2010, 04:52:19 AM

That looks much better!  Now it's no longer disturbing, because now it's a picture of a hot chick feeling herself, instead of being groped by some mysterious invisible man.  Thanks!

Not my intention to portray it that way. She's touching her cloak. I'll try to remedy this error by trying my above method.
4743  Other / Off-topic / Re: USA seizes torrent search engine & 70 other domains through ICANN on: November 29, 2010, 04:18:54 AM
Its time for a distributed dns the government cant take down.

All of the important bitcoin sites should be mirrored on a separate network with the TLD of .btc


 Smiley





So...Offer a bounty on it?
4744  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Government vs Bitcoin ? on: November 29, 2010, 04:12:11 AM
How is one going to buy let's say a car underground? Cars have to be registered, etc. Transactions above certain amounts have to be registered, etc. How is Bitcoin or an alternative system going to get around that? For digital goods one could use Bitcoin, but most  interesting goods are not digital.

Well, if you want a new Mercedes Benz or something like that, then you will need to buy it in the old economy.  However, I could envision a resourceful agorist buying an old clunker with some national currency and restoring it to like new condition and then selling it for Bitcoins.  When you register the car, which would already have a title, you would only have to pay taxes on its old, unrestored value. 

In the future, there will be a greater availability of desktop manufacturing devices and eventually molecular manufacturing machines, so the percentage of the world economy that can be delivered digitally is only going to increase.


So commodity markets will be even bigger in the future. Imagine buying exotic matters so that you could print them with your machine.
4745  Other / Off-topic / Re: Money as Debt on: November 29, 2010, 04:10:27 AM
Fractional reserve banking mean that the bank have a tendency to collapse. I think we're safer with mtgox type banks where they just keep the balance and earn their fees somewhere.
4746  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Advertising Clearinghouse Bounty (1400 BTC or 350 USDs of BTC) by Noagendamarket on: November 29, 2010, 03:16:57 AM
It should be up to the site owner what they allow.


Publishers are owners of their site, presumably.
4747  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Kiba's Art Thread (Using Ubitious) on: November 29, 2010, 03:07:29 AM
I will be trying out bencoder's download service in the next artwork revision that I sell. If I like it enough, I might switch to bencoder's site. Hippich, watch out!
4748  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Operation Project Wonderful (225 BTC PAID) on: November 29, 2010, 01:52:56 AM
Added a new banner to the rotation.
4749  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Kiba's Art Thread (Using Ubitious) on: November 29, 2010, 01:23:46 AM
I redrew the left hand. However, smudges that can't be removed means that if I keep further revising, than it will be further dark. I got an idea on how to fix it though. I'll simply digitally erase the hand area, print it out and redraw it, then scan it in. My only fear is that the quality of the lines may degrade. However, I think it will be best be done when the line art is complete, but by then, I'll simply move on to other art project. It'll be worth a revisit in the future.

Other than that, I am struggling dealing with perspective. I discovered that the height of cluster box must be smaller as it goes inward. I also discovered that lines must be pretty parallel.

Once drawing cluster box is complete, I will probably add further details like tubes and other decoration, and then it's off to the cleaning phrase.

http://ubitio.us/file/download/44
4750  Other / Off-topic / Re: Open Bank solution? on: November 29, 2010, 01:13:15 AM
Search the forum. You will find out that there are plenty of discussion about this.
4751  Other / Off-topic / Re: Money as Debt on: November 29, 2010, 01:00:48 AM
I'm a bit more then just a socialist and I know bitcoin is a step towards getting away from government/corporation authority and control. After that it will help move into a classless society and possibly money will be abolished altogether.

And there will be still rich bitcoiners and poor bitcoiners.
4752  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 29, 2010, 12:56:54 AM
It had occurred to such an extent that the Ludwig von Mises published under Creative Common Attribution but also published articles that argued for the abolishment of intellectual property.
So let me just double-check this... you say he published under CC-BY, rather than under public domain, eh? Smiley

And while I'm here - I am quite willing to /entertain/ the idea of abolishing copyright altogether (though in my current thinking I lean toward a reduction of terms to something like 5 years instead, at least to start with, rather than complete abolishment).
It's the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Sorry about giving it that a single person.

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The problem is that /currently/ copyright does exist, and IMHO a more effective way to fight it is copyleft licensing, rather than PD, since with PD you're basically saying here bad guys, take my stuff, even though you refuse to let me do the same with your stuff, I'm going to be the doormat. With GPL and friends, you give as good as you're getting.

The copyright and patent game can occurs with copyleft licenses too, not just public domain.

But, what I am doing is using the media effect in reverse. Just as pirates popularize movies and games to certain extent, then media corporations that use my stuff will end up popularizing my stuff. People will find out, eventually.

You might think this is naive theory. Perhaps it is, but we should wait for experimental data for how that theory works out.

Moreover, if you think open source development model is a superior model, then eventually it will win out. At that point, you can shape and use public opinion and media coverage(created by the court) to change the way people think about copyright. Lawsuits and legal wars are just minor hindrance.

People won't change their opinion if they don't see me letting stuff into the public domain. They will think "this guy have no balls", or "this guy is bullshiting me".

I gottach have creditability. Where do I get it if I used copyright myself? Imagine having to explain that my work is under copyright law for X reasons.
4753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is a confirmation? on: November 28, 2010, 11:25:36 PM
The highest number of confirmations I have seen for some of my transactions is around 900. In a screenshot I have seen someone with over 6000. I thought a confirmation simply meant that one node has seen my transaction in the longest blockchain it has seen. 6000 nodes would mean that bitcoin is getting extremely popular or that some people have hundreds of nodes running.

Is my characterization a confirmation correct? What's the highest number you have seen?

Confirmations is really how many blocks that had been generated. If there are 5 blocks after my transaction, it mean that there are 5 new blocks.
4754  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Advertising Clearinghouse Bounty (1400 BTC or 350 USDs of BTC) by Noagendamarket on: November 28, 2010, 10:39:04 PM
Kiba, rethinking about what you said... something starts boiling in my head... maybe I can do both.

Give me some time to think about it, how to implement it.

<edit>
Would need some kind of moderation though, else people might send "offensive stuff" or other crap through the advertising system.
It would cost them btc, but still. That might harm the advertising system.
</edit>

Let the publisher approve banners.
4755  Other / Off-topic / Re: I am 19. WTF Do I know? on: November 28, 2010, 10:32:25 PM
Am I such a fool for believing such a crazy idea like bitcoin can succeed?

What's so crazy about the idea? To me it seems like an obvious way of using the internet. Wasn't something like Bitcoin bound to happen sooner or later? But WTF do I know? I didn't think Wikipedia was crazy either when I first came across it in 2003.

I was a wikipedian for some time and then left. I help the comixpedia project flourished and then also left. I also created a gaming encyclopedia called Libregamewiki. My interests moved on.
4756  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re:Re: What will governments do against Bitcoin ? on: November 28, 2010, 10:23:43 PM
Security through obscurity will not work. We need to address concerns and problems.


Edit1: revised second sentence.
4757  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 09:52:29 PM
If you have a copy of my software, on the other hand, what right do you have to turn around and start handing that to anybody you please?  I'm also talking here the difference between an artist who makes an oil painting vs. a bunch of lithographs.  Artists that make money off of lithographs depend upon the limited availability of their works again to make a living.  Perhaps some other way can be made to pay the artist such as the patronage system of centuries ago, but in a mass market that seems to be the best way on how artists can pay for their time they put into that art work.

Same right I have to turn around and sell a car.

In any case, I also thought long and hard about this. I concluded that I can make a living doing public domain work. Next is experimentation to see if that work.


Nobody is forcing a third party to enter into an agreement with copyleft content.  as a form of copyright violation on the subsequent showings.  That, to me, sounds a whole lot like liberty and fredom.

A contract is something you signed, not a license you look at and then take. Under a libertarian society, a copyright contract is just a standard contract. But obviously, things work differently.

BTW, I really don't see how this is "the libertarian position", as I know many libertarians who certainly embrace and support the copyleft principles.


Perhaps you been sleeping under a rock. Libertarianism had undergone a revolutionary change in how they think about intellectual property. The answer is to abolish it. It had occurred to such an extent that the Ludwig von Mises published under Creative Common Attribution but also published articles that argued for the abolishment of intellectual property.
4758  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Operation Project Wonderful (225 BTC PAID) on: November 28, 2010, 09:28:33 PM
kiba, what address do I send bitcoin to donate?

1AMVDD55BQ19RyFQUN4Kt4WvD6ECryu33F

I'll keep 10% as earning.(This is a bounty after all!)
4759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Sneakernet on: November 28, 2010, 09:25:48 PM
Sneakernet... so 80's.

This is the current gen of networking:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
Robotic courier.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1629.0
4760  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Hippch's Download Site on: November 28, 2010, 09:08:20 PM

Not handdrawn, but nice! =) (not very safe for work =))

No private parts showing. Pretty safe for work in my opinion.
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