Hi Mitchell, kleine toevoeging, er staat altijd duidelijk bij een self moderated topic, "if you don't wish to be moderated by the creator of this topic, create your own topic." Dat gaat hier wel een beetje tegenin natuurlijk  Ik volg je niet helemaal. Wat bedoel je? Ik zal het nogmaals proberen. Bij een self moderated topic staat er altijd erg duidelijk dat als het je niet zint dat diegene jou kan moderaten, je je eigen topic over het onderwerp aan moet maken, dus 2 threads over hetzelfde, echter wil de 1 niet gemoderate worden dus start hij per advies van bitcointalk, zijn eigen topic |
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This individual and I are in a sort of informal debate over Bitcoin.
He says, in response to one of my arguments:
You state: "What interests me a bit, are the new applications that crypto-currency allows for: "smart contracts", "decentralized autonomous organizations", machine to machine transactions." None of these are new: smart contracts - options; decentralized autonomous organizations - commercial banks; machine to machine transactions - internet transactions and ATMs. The environment might be different but the ideas and their applications already exist.
I feel like he's shown his cards here, and his lack of understanding of these technological applications. Are there any great examples that could be presented to best demonstrate that to him?
All of those "existing ideas" are prone to fraud and corruption. With bitcoin, that is prevented via mathematics and the protocol. You can't embezzle, or flake out on the options, or claw back funds with bitcoin, but you can do all of those things with options, commercial banks and internet transactions/ATMs. The value you store in those "traditional" methods can also be confiscated or devalued without your consent, and while the underlying "things" that the blockchain represents can be confiscated or devalued, the information in the blockchain can't be changed, seized or devalued without your consent. When and if the underlying "things" are taken away, devalued, etc... you still have an immutable record of everything that can't be forged or altered, so you have complete transparency as far as that goes. These are things "existing ideas" simply don't and can not have. In theory..............  Which theory do you mean, people and organization have tried to manipulate the blockchain, I bet even the NSA took a crack at it, all have failed, so it's no theory, it's fact. |
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Beste mensen , Wat als ik onder dwang/bedreiging mijn bitcoins heb moeten "verkopen" kan ik deze persoon traceren? Ik ondervind van niet ... Ik had afgeproken met iemand om mijn bitcoins te verkopen voor cash via localbitcoins , deze persoon kwam langs bij mij thuis na verder afspreken via e-mail en wou 2 coins kopen maar op het moment dat ik klaar ben met alle gegevens in te vullen om te traden zegt deze man : ik wil nu direct al jouw coins( wat 15 waren) of ik kreeg een pak slaag ... Zodus heb ik gedaan wat de man eiste  kan ik deze persoon traceren ? alle hulp is welkom . Dank u Aangifte doen bij de politie. Diefstal is diefstal. Of het nou euro's of Bitcoins zijn. 15 bitcoins is toch 1293,45 euro (huidige Mt.Gox marktwaarde). Ik zou eenieder aanraden om bij dergelijke transacties af te spreken op een publieke lokatie (cafe bijvoorbeeld). Een honbalknuppel doet wonderen.... ik ga echt zitten of dood als mij dat overkomt, of hij of ik... Wel echt kut om te horen man, had je niet nep kunnen sturen oid? |
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Hallo allemaal,
Ik wil graag eventjes iets onder de aandacht brengen: Als er over een onderwerp al een thread is, is het niet nodig om er nog eentje aan te maken (voor bijvoorbeeld een bepaald nieuwsbericht). Dit is onnodig en valt daardoor onder het kopje "spam", wat betekent dat ik het zal verwijderen. Een goed voorbeeld hiervoor was de thread dat ons informeerde over het feit dat je met Guldencoin ook Bitcoin facatures kan betalen. Dat is natuurlijk een mooie iets, maar dit hoort gewoon in het Guldencoin thread thuis en is dus verwijderd.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Mitchell
Hi Mitchell, kleine toevoeging, er staat altijd duidelijk bij een self moderated topic, "if you don't wish to be moderated by the creator of this topic, create your own topic." Dat gaat hier wel een beetje tegenin natuurlijk |
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The rise in the price we saw was a combination of bitcoin going down and DRK rebranding at the same time creating a pump out of nothing really.
I think we will see a floor somewhere in the middle between 0.01 and 0.013
Some people here need to get their feet back on the ground.
People are on the moon and DRK/Dash is still at earth.
I think you underestimate the shift of many darkmarkets to add dark in stead of bitcoin. Eventhough Dash doesn't want it, people use it for darkmarkets. A substantial amount of bitcoin's exchange rate comes from userbase of darkmarkets, with this shift, the rates will shift too Dash is a victim of it's own great anon tech... |
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He's a very stupid man, recently had a presentation about darkmarkets and bitcoin criminals, they are untraceable of they do it right, but allmost all fall victim to their own greed, couldn't he just waited a couple of years, emigrate to a country without expidition treaty, and voila he would have got away with it, but no, they all want to bask in their wealth immediately, laughable, guy won't make it for a week... |
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I would like to create a list of legitimate uses of Bitcoins. Here’s why: On October 14, 2014, my husband BurtW was arrested by the Postal Police and had his Bitcoins seized by the federal government. Sound crazy? Here’s a direct quote from the U.S. Postal Inspection Service website: Asset ForfeitureThe Asset Forfeiture Program is an integral law enforcement tool that benefits the Postal Inspection Service by: (omitted) . . . 3. increasing revenue for law enforcement purposes, and 4. providing an enhanced 'esprit de corps' among law enforcement through equitable sharing.The U.S. Postal Inspectors, a/k/a dark government, are instrumental in obtaining search warrants to search homes of Bitcoin traders and seize Bitcoins for the federal Asset Forfeiture Fund. The evidentiary support for the search and seizures is the sworn testimony by U.S. Postal Inspectors that there are few legitimate reasons for Bitcoins; therefore, anyone with Bitcoins is mostly likely engaged in criminal activity. I would like to have a list of legitimate reasons for Bitcoins to give to every judge in the 10th Judicial District so that no judge ever puts a middle aged engineer in solitary confinement again to give the U.S. Postal Inspection Service and U.S. Attorney’s Office time to steal that engineer’s Bitcoins. These are the legitimate uses I could think of: - Investment.
- Dell accepts Bitcoins.
- Overstock.com accepts Bitcoins.
- U.S. Congressman Jared Polis accepts Bitcoins as political donations.
- Red Cross accepts Bitcoins as donations.
Please help me with creating a list of legitimate uses for Bitcoins. www.burtw.comwww.jmwagner.comInterpersonal exchange of value between private persons, that's not illigal! Investment in projects, yet also in time. Alternative currency for people condemned to dictators with hyper inflation, such as Venezuela and Zimbabwe |
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i want will buy antminer s1 because i dont have enough money that buy s5.
what advise me . ?
If you're in it to make a profit, don't If you want to be part of the bitcoin/crypto movement, please do. Only if you don't have to pay for electricity will you turn an s1 into profit,. or an absurd price increase |
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You're best bet is to STAY AWAY from those sorts of websites, sooner or later it fails, mostly sooner Just check out the hardware prices, and compare it to these prices, not possible, very simple 1+1  |
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So im out of the mining game. Getting asics importet from china is too expensive -.- Electricity is too expensive in my country 0.14$/kwh -.- and my block erupters isnt making me anything. this game have only been a waste of money so far. GL on your mining guys dont make the same mistakes as i did. It made me smile a bit, love the USA. We pay 0,26 cent per kwh, in euro's!! Only if you host miners with a substantial power consumption the rates go down to 0,12 cent per kwh, still more because it's in Euro's, can you imagine what the price drop has done to people in Europe  |
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Op zich wel leuk, maar ben je dan niet bang dat je 2 verschillende fora moet raadplegen voor alle info, ziet er wel strak uit! |
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I guess Bitcoin will become a international payment method in the future.
Right now, you should buy some Bitcoin and keep it until 2020. You will get rich quickly.
2020 isn't exactly quickly, but i agree now it's the time to buy, the perfect time for that until the halving, with that you could be assured there will be a surprise in price( a positive surprise) the future of bitcoin is held in its halving... It's an very small aspect in price rise. I think government regulation/destruction, merchants acceptance, business uses for bitcoin (so companies aren't forced to sell off all bitcoins) have a far greater influence on the price then just simply block halving, just my 2 cents |
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if you don't want to get regulated you can't be any geek off the street. you gotta be handy w/ the steel if you know what i mean, earn your keep
Regulate by Warren/G, nice one, gonna listin it tonight, longtime ago that I heard that song. |
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Sorry guys but when showing pictures like this ( like some kids ) it wont help the coin.
I like anonymous, i share the idea's. BUT when u want a crypto grow up and get adult u need back up from the gouvernment. They are the 1 who decide ur coin will live or die. When showing pictures with a mask, u fail directly.
Guldencoin is not anonymous, guldencoin is not adult, guldencoin is just an coin like all the 1000k other coins. Sorry but those pictures with masks or a kid with a beard just shows this coin will not make it. Sorry to say guys
Everybody is wearing some kind of mask here. The name minerjoen is hiding more than the mask of anonylz. Your opinion is apreciated though. I don't agree with your govenment opinion by the way. Crypto-coins do not need goverment support by design. Cryptocoins just exist because they represent freedom of choice, which should be the only reason why govenments exist themselves. So keep wearing your mask minerjoen. Nobody asks you to take it of. Adulthood is a matter of time. With e-Gulden it happens 9 years from now, with Guldencoin 50. Guldencoin 50, efl 9, due enlighten us in your prophecy, like any base for your statement Years it takes before all coins in those two chains are mined. Apparently that is the only determinant of adulthood of a coin. aaaaaaaaah, sorry I didn't understand, very clear now, yet I do not agree |
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... "at the time", we're in 2015 now, and you can't deny that it is protecting and relying on the status quo A two-thousand-year-old book about a poor d00d who scorned wealth & called all earthly authority bullshit is "protecting and relying on the status quo"? And those who hoard BTCeanie BTCabies Bitcoin are the real rebels?  You really don't understnad Cristianity NOWADAYS, church is corporations...., not an opinion but fact. You refer to the views of JEZUS himself, which sadly has nothing to do with the church nowadays, the real words of the bible are non-existent, it has been rewrittin so many times, please research |
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I like alot s5 that is my first miner i have connected to corsair 850 rm and is perfect!I will keep buying them!
Just to share my experience for those they are looking to change the fan as it is too loud, i have changed it with two corsair sp120 High performance pwm direct on s5 and the results are amazing it is really silent, running at 2160 and 2040 with temp usually stable at 67-69 but some time it goes to 71-72 for couple minutes.I have underclock it at 312.5 and hashing 1050GHS to 1200GHS but i am really pleased with the sound now!
Kind Regards,
BTC-Bank.
That temp is faaaaaaar to high, you're miners will die sooner or later with those temps, 60 is allready very hot.... |
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I use bitcoinwisdom, they list the alts that actually are worth something |
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Dave at walletrecoveryservices.com managed to recover my password with only the information of what I originally thought my password was. He charges 20% of the wallet amount (not much in my case) and was totally trustworthy. With all the stories around hacking and dodgy activities flying around, it was nice to have this experience when just getting started. So thanks Dave I think I need his services too, can't recover my 5 btc  If you'd like to try to recover it yourself, here's the Quick Start for an open source (free) tool called btcrecover: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md#btcrecover-tutorial. It does take a bit of work to get it set up and running, though. (Full disclosure: I'm the author of that tool.) If you have any questions about it, just let me know. Although I've never dealt with Dave personally, he's gotten nothing but good reviews from what I can tell, so that seems like a good option too. Thanks for yuour help man, really aprreciated Will try it |
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Bitcoin is focussing on disrupting the status quo, but the bible wishes to protect and rely on the status quo, your comparison makes absoltely no sense.... Maybe you mean like the followers are cult like, that I can understand, but you don't say that I am pretty sure Jesus and Christian thing was pretty disruptive to Roman empire at that time~ "at the time", we're in 2015 now, and you can't deny that it is protecting and relying on the status quo |
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