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621  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: June 29, 2017, 10:54:47 PM
Wall Observer is dead.
Long live the new Wall Observer!
622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [GBYTE] Byteball Speculation on: June 28, 2017, 01:35:47 PM



I don't understand why I can't just download bitcoin-qt ..I've heard brain wallets are dangerous (prev post..no disrespect to the author)

So why is just downloading and updating bitcoin Qt just as safe as this?

again thanks everyone for the help...I ever get this down I need to make a thread on how to do this...no one I know ..knows much about

the priv key msg option anyway....not to mention air gap'd machines Sad








(hopefully forever with no monthly more to do on airdrops in future)

The linking process is a one-time thing. You link a Bitcoin address to a Byteball address. If your funds do not change addresses (because you did an outgoing transaction for instance) then you are good to go for all the up-coming distributions. You'll get bytes and blackbtes according to your bitcoin balance in the next distribution (the first for you) and then if you'll get bytes and blackbytes for both your bitcoin balance and your bytes balance for each of the following distributions (if you hold your bytes). If you intend to sell your bytes then no problem, you'll just get the distribution according to your bitcoin balance (for each distribution and with no need to re-link).

I also assume I can use the same encrypted msg (copy) each month to prove my btc from each of my btc paper wallets  or am I simply linked on that btc or btc address on the monthly snapshot and even that is not needed once i've linked (proof ) of my btc to byteball month to month

I'm not understanding this very well, anyway, if you want to use other Bitcoin addresses, you'll have to sign your Byteball address with these specific addresses. The signature ties a specific Bitcoin address to a specific Byteball address, you can not reuse it to tie another Bitcoin address to the same or to another Byteball address.




yeah, I was not clear on the 2nd point

what I meant was I know I have to link each of my 3 paper wallet addresses (virgin) with byteball and my email address

so the priv key msg for each of my wallets with priv key is done such.....what I meant to say

thank goodness I only have to leap thru this hoop once

anyway...good to have goals..keeps me away from watching internet cats on youtube (they are evil) and generally wasting free time right?







You could use bitcoin-qt but the blockchain dl is going to take a while.
Why not just use electrum? Much easier to use and sign messages.
Obviously only enter your priv keys into electrum once you are air gapped.
If you don't move your BTC from the address/es you register with the bot then all future airdrops will happen automatically and you will just receive your monthly Byteballs and GBB every month just after the airdrop.
623  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2017, 01:18:16 PM
Can you describe the mechanism that "they" would use to drag the price floor of a Bitcoin to $1? Who is "they"?

Already did, war of attrition.  Miners will not mine at a loss forever.  They just tank the price on exchanges and then miners either immediately turn off their machines or do a few weeks later.  If you look at things like litecoin hash rate vs price lately, these Chinese are turning on and off machines almost immediately as price fluctuates.  

Once they tank the price on exchanges either with real coins or synthetic derivatives, even if cost of production of a coin was once $10,000, there is no reason to pay that anymore since you can mine a never ending stream of coins as transaction fees for however low they want to tank the cost of production to.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that bitcoin has no price floor, does not function as a store of value, and is much easier to destroy by financial manipulation than gold or silver are.

Lol when those chinese bastards are outta game my CPU will gratefully do the job.
While there are perhaps some hundreds of thousands of AntMiners there are BILLIONS of CPUs and GPUs happily waiting to start mining Bitcoins and the only tradeoff will be a minor increase in energy bill.

You would need more than 5 billion gaming computers to even come close to the current hash rate. Only got 5 million? Expect each block to take a year or more for you to mine. And I'm being generous on assuming that your high end gaming rigs can hash a gig per second. Better hope the next difficulty adjustment is a few blocks away...(BTW I'm using the American definition of million and billion.)

AFAIK every two weeks the difficulty is recalculated, so the worst scenario would be 2 weeks with no blocks mined. After that the difficulty would be affordable for GPUS.

Also it is unlikely that all the Asics would switch off at the same time so the diff level will hopefully decline at a softer rate and blocks would continue to be solved albeit, at a slower rate.
624  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2017, 12:16:00 PM
Seems like a lot of work for some byte balls. What can that possibly be worth? And what's this about loading private keys? Sounds like an OPSEC disaster waiting to happen if you ask me.
Well it might not be worth it for some but for me it was worth just under 0.5BTC last drop with several more drops in the future.
Of course you never know what the exchange rate is going to be (Byteball V BTC) after each drop but so far it is definately worth it.
625  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2017, 09:20:09 PM
Ok, could someone help me please.

With regards to byteball and whatever else......  

I hold a reasonable amount of btc. Not as much as some of the people here but enough to be pretty pissed off if anything happened to them.

I store all on paper wallets (plural)

How would I get my free shit coins?

Proving numerous paper wallets and moving it all around is not what I want to be doing as I was panicking just setting all that up in the first place!!

I'm guessing the answer will be. Well Rjclarke2000 if you don't move it you don't get free shit coins.....


I am open to ideas from people more intelligent than myself.

This is btc related mr Admin Mod as I want more btc.

You would need to use an isolated secure PC, introduce the private keys and generate the signatures that prove you control them. Then copy all the signatures to a flash memory and copy them to your internet connected PC, then do the claim process from it.

Maybe not worth it... it depends on how many BTC you have for each paperwallet.

All that problems would be solved by one or several hardware wallets. The weakness of paperwallets is that any time you need to use them you are exposing the private key to a PC. People doesn't realise that even if they don't regularly "use them" they will have to do it some day in order to claim its BTC.
 




Ok thanks guys. I may be making a big mistake but I think as I am too worried about moving them about (which I have actually done in the past) I will not bother. I will keep the paper wallets safe and secure and just stay how I am. Some may say I am crazy but some wallets hold more than others and if anything should happen I would be more than upset/ pissed off. I'd probably go on some sort of rampage.

Maybe I'll just keep doing what I am doing and miss the boat this time.

Thanks for the advice but I am not as technical as most here. (More than the average person but not more than some regulars here)
ECB has hit the nail on the head. It really isn't that difficult and the rewards are quite worth it, particularly since there are going to be quite a few more airdrops in the future.
There is another byteball airdrop scheduled for the 9th July and more on every full moon for the next 6 to 7 months! That equates to a substantial amount of BTC in anyone's book!
Are you located in the South of the UK? If you need help I might be able to help you out as I am situated on the South coast. Not trying to scam anyone btw just trying to help.
626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2017, 08:24:20 PM
am too lazy to even bother Smiley

if you link 10 btc you get more than 0.1 bitcoin at the moment. that's a pretty good payday for a few minutes of clicking.
i wanted to test it, but they want to link with facebook. [wtf is facebook,i never use it] Roll Eyes so no free bitcoins for me again. Will need to make some by trading Smiley
Using a fake FB account and a couple of minutes clicking I just made around 0.4 BTC. Yay.
Now looking forward to the next Byteball airdrop.
627  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2017, 03:25:03 PM
looks like retest of yesterday's lows coming. Probably will go through; But i dont know if I dare to put my buy order @ 2200
maybe I'll wait until it settles a bit

.

edit> that was fast  Cheesy finex already below yesterday

CEX.IO only hit 2400. I think I need to start using a more volatile exchange

haha, you should have seen c-cex then. i sold bitcoin there @$2900 and am kicking myself why i didn't place the sell orders at $3100 because someone with fat fingers apparently did a cleanup buy all the way up there Cheesy
i placed the sell order as a joke because i had nothing else to do and no altcoin to buy!
What sort of vol did you sell at that price just out of curiosity?
628  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2017, 06:28:47 AM
But I thought $5,000 was a sure thing? Where are all the $20,000 BTC advocates?

If you are going to shit your pants any time Bitcoin experiences a 5-10% swing, maybe cryptocurrencies are not for you.




Yep.  shitting your pants should require at least a 40% threshold, and possibly even more.

This days anything above 20-30% in less than 24 hours would be a "shitable" event. More so after all this years of stability and profits that probably have converted us into pussies.

hmm!
maybe you need to check some charts. the 20-30% dips are not new at all.
here are some examples:
-16% dip 2017-6-12
-19% dip 2017-5-25
-13% dip 2017-5-11
-27% dip 2017-3-10
-22% dip 2017-1-5
...
-9% dip yesterday!

and these are just 1 day dips . bitcoin has always been volatile like this, with stable times in between.

Even with all those dips, apart from the very last one that we are in now, we have never been at a higher price!
Grow some balls people.
629  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 24, 2017, 11:56:41 PM
I did sign the BTC address with my Byteball address and pasted the resulting signature into the bot, but I do not get any answer from the bot.
Are you using the latest version of the wallet?

I am using v1.9.0 light. I downloaded it approximately three weeks ago.
I don't know how the bot responds to incorrect inputs, but..
Maybe if the bot does not respond, he apparently did not get a valid BTC address?
Are you sure you sent a valid BTC address?
Please check the address: https://blockexplorer.com/

This reminds me that I read that multisig addresses don't work (the ones that start with a 3), but I think the bot should still say something
if I just say "hi" to the bot, he will tell me how many addresses I have linked ETC


My BTC address is a normal one starting with a 1.
I also tried to say "hi" to the bot, but he doesn't answer to anything, except when I enter the Byteball address, then I get a response.

I am just reinstalling the wallet...

Sorry that I couldn't be of more help, if reinstalling doesn't work, try going to the slack (I think there is a link in the first post)

Never mind, I will try going to the slack, thank you!

By the way, I am not even able to properly uninstall the wallet. Whenever I install it again there is still all my data in. Does anyone know in which folder the wallet data is saved on Windows? Normally in %appdata% but there is nothing there.

This might sound stupid but are you talking to the correct bot? The transition bot.
630  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 20, 2017, 06:36:44 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40338220
Barclays facing fraud charges.
For the sake of all of us Bitcoin has to work!
631  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 15, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
Even with this large dump we are still up by 30% from a month ago.
It's all about perspective.
632  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2017, 09:42:18 PM
The most realistic near future scenario I've seen was in an anime called Gundam Zero, where 300 years into the future, the planet is powered by solar energy harvested from panels in low earth orbit, connected to three orbital elevators. Poor countries had to buy power by setting up microwave antennas. The robots (or mobile suits) were just for fun I guess, hehehe.

That's kinda still ... 300 years from now. I imagine just a few decades to maybe a couple hundred years, someone will just make giant floating solar panel arrays in the equator (in international waters)

Kardashev scale https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
633  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2017, 05:17:57 PM
I am still holding but I do find these sudden moderate to large drops quite disconcerting, especially when there seems to be no immediate/apparent reason for them?
634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 10, 2017, 04:52:06 PM
Received my Blackbytes today. Thank you.
635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 09, 2017, 10:09:40 PM
Received exactly what I was expecting. Thank you very much for the generosity.
This has certainly caught my attention and am now looking forward to the next drop already.
See you in a month.
636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 09, 2017, 06:28:31 PM
So if I get this correct this is essentially free money. Like a form of spin off or dividend in a tradional stock sense. If so why aren't more people participating? What is the catch?

How many more distributuions will there be? Are they always the same amount? What does the distribution graph look like?
If you created an altcoin and wanted to get it distributed widely then it seems like a good idea to piggyback off of an already established coin.
This incentivises people to notice the coin amidst all the sea of altcoins floating around.
The only reason it has value is because people perceive it to have value and are happy to trade btc or whatever altcoin for it. (In fact this is the reason any cryptocurrency has value because some people believe it has,me included)
Now if people choose to dump it straight away for whatever crypto they believe in then so be it but there will always be some that will hold.
Seems like a pretty clever way of distributing the coin around to me.
637  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 09, 2017, 01:29:18 PM
The BTC/GBYTE exchange bot shows quite a spread between buy and sell  Grin

Quote
buy bytes at 0.3669 BTC/GB
sell bytes at 0.00984 BTC/GB
Massive dumpage on Bittrex already

"massive"  Cheesy


Hmmm. Ok maybe that should be re-phrased to moderate.
638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 09, 2017, 01:22:53 PM
The BTC/GBYTE exchange bot shows quite a spread between buy and sell  Grin

Quote
buy bytes at 0.3669 BTC/GB
sell bytes at 0.00984 BTC/GB
Massive dumpage on Bittrex already
639  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 08, 2017, 10:02:41 AM
If you're here to make money with BTC, don't miss the Byteball airdrop tomorrow.
You can get 0.065GB per BTC you own, that's already 52 USD value and there will be others airdrops.
You just need to sign a message with your BTC wallet.
See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.0

Thanks bud.
Can't say no to free money.
640  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 08, 2017, 08:56:59 AM
I easily won my bet of btc passing 2k by the beginning of March. Now I'm setting up another side bet with the same person on the over under of btc hitting 3k by the end of this month. I have to choose this time because he took the under on the last bet. I'm torn because I'm thinking the under but I would prefer to lose the bet and haveit surpass 3k by end of June
Go for the 'over'.
You only live once.
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