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6421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 13 Dead at mass shooting in California Bar on: November 08, 2018, 03:24:32 PM
It was reportedly a lone male shooter (no race released yet), 22 years old and known to police.  He avoided a 5150 hold last April, seems like the crisis worker didn't have enough to toss him in the looney bin back then.

Reports are he used a glock .45 cal, legally purchased weapon but used a modified mag (reports say the mod was to hold additional rounds).  Reports are the handgun was the only weapon used in the attack.

The nut job was found in an office in the bar with apparent self inflicted fatal wounds when the Police found him.

Police are searching his house now.

Motive and or connection to the scene are not known or being released ATM.

Why are women never the shooters in these cases?  I mean there are some psycho bitches that do some nutty shit but they don't generally get a gun and go on a shooting spree.

Never?



https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ppmzkk/the-sparse-history-of-female-rampage-killers
6422  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW—MUELLER FIRING RAPID RESPONSE on: November 08, 2018, 03:19:05 PM
Thank you for providing my sources for me! If you bother even reading what you posted you will see 2 things...

Several people they picked up surrounding Trump whom they dug to the bottom of the barrel to manufacture charges over, none of which have anything to do with Russia BTW. Then you have a handful of Russians that supposedly did all this hacking, that have NOTHING to do with Trump.

This is how lazy people like you are, and how willing you are to have your bias confirmed. You are too lazy to completely read even your own posts which prove your OWN ARGUMENT wrong!

The pot calling the kettle black. Nah, Mueller investigation's found absolutely nothing, so it needs shut down, obviously, right?

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But investigate that dirty Clinton more! WITCH HUNT AGAINST TRUMP, LEGIT INVESTIGATION AGAINST CLINTON.

That summarize your world views enough?

As usual you don't even bother arguing the premise or the sources and default to changing the subject.

What actual evidence of Trump administration collusion with Russia HAS Muller found in the 2 years since Trump was elected? Please do show me. Oh there is none? Only the garbage above, none of which is evidence of such? Yes, there is no evidence. Any investigation with no evidence after YEARS needs to be shut down.




The difference between Trump and Clinton investigations? Let me count the ways...

1. Clinton was "investigated" under Democrat party rule by people within the FBI who were COMPLICIT in her crimes.

2. She was allowed to delete evidence, perjure herself feloniously, and almost no procedural investigative standards were followed.

3. Comey even explicitly said she sent classified emails via her private server (illegal), but refused to prosecute. There is no requirement of intent in the statue.

4. The people responsible for investigating her at the FBI have been exposed not only as bias, but willing to COMMIT ILLEGAL ACTS to protect Clinton and keep Trump out of office.

5. The investigation lasted what?  A year?

6. The media were happy to cover up for Clinton, especially since a lot of them were complicit too...


Now Trump:

1. The investigations began long before 2016, but were only openly discussed really starting after the election. So it has been 2 years, at minimum, but more like 3 or 4 once you include all the illegal FISA surveillance under the manufactured "Steele dossier".

2. Considering Trump is in power, has a majority in the Senate, and also previously HAD a House majority, it seems to me the fact he allowed this freak show to continue for 2 years demonstrates very clearly he is not impeding this investigation, unlike in the case of Clinton.

3. The entire Trump investigation is based on an ILLEGALLY OBTAINED FISA WARRANT based on the "Steel Dossier" which was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. They left the funding source out when filing for the warrant though conveniently (oops very illegal). Essentially they got a secret warrant for their political opponent by paying for manufactured evidence to get a FISA warrant.

4. The media are happy to declare Trump guilty instantly at the site of any accusation, and take the most extremist interpretation of his words possible.

5. AFTER TWO YEARS, STILL NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE SUPPORTING THE THEORY THAT TRUMP COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA TO ILLEGALLY MANIPULATE ELECTION RESULTS HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

6. This investigation has simply served as a divisive mechanism to try to reverse the 2016 election results by claiming he was not legally elected. Everyone is always pointing fingers at Trump for dividing people, when this division began with TRYING TO CLAIM THE PEOPLE DIDN'T VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP. I guess unless he gives up and goes home all the division is his fault right?


As you can see, these two investigations are TOOOOTALLY the same thing. I would love to go into more detail about any of these points! Please do demonstrate your intellectual prowess as usual by bringing up some other dumb argument that has nothing to do with any of this like you always do.



6423  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 13 Dead at mass shooting in California Bar on: November 08, 2018, 02:29:01 PM
And Chicago, with something like one-a-day gun murders, even though it has some very strict gun laws.

Cook county (Chicago) was one of the counties I was referring to. Also it is more than one a day now if I remember right.







https://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/number-murders-county-54-us-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/
6424  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeff Sessions Resigns at Trump Request on: November 08, 2018, 02:10:24 PM
Am I the only one asking about the timing? Is there a relation between the recent election and the time of resignation?
Sessions relation with Trump wasn't good from the ~beginning...
The greatest POTUS has to pick a good loyal guy who should criticise Mueller everyday tho.

Yes, it is exactly related. As you noted they haven't always seen eye to eye. Trump wanted him gone sooner, but he knew that if he booted him before mid-terms, he could be stuck without an AG while the left turn the confirmation process of a new AG into yet another freak show, delaying the confirmation until after the mid-terms, after which the majority to confirm his appointee is confirmed, and the dems have slightly less motivation to engage in a freak show over it.



https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-08/left-organizes-response-events-900-cities-protest-firing-jeff-sessions

Man.. the left is so fucking gullible being lead around by the nose, all the while never having a clue what they are chanting and "bashing the fash" over. Now Jeff Sessions is a leftist darling? What? Can you not see this is a direct result of criminals in the government terrified Trump will put in some one who will actually prosecute them? The left never liked Sessions, this is yet one more in a long line of COVER YOUR ASS events by the criminals within the Democrat party.
6425  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW—MUELLER FIRING RAPID RESPONSE on: November 08, 2018, 02:05:46 PM
U.S. v. Paul J. Manafort, Jr. (1:17-cr-201, District of Columbia)

Paul J. Manafort, Jr., of Alexandria, Va., pleaded guilty on September 14, 2018, to a superseding criminal information filed today in the District of Columbia, which includes conspiracy against the United States (conspiracy to commit money laundering, tax fraud, failing to file Foreign Bank Account Reports and Violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and lying and misrepresenting to the Department of Justice) and conspiracy to obstruct justice (witness tampering). A status report with regard to sentencing was scheduled for Nov. 16, 2018.

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U.S. v. Viktor Borisovich Netyksho, et al (1:18-cr-215, District of Columbia)

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on July 13, 2018, against 12 Russian nationals for their alleged roles in computer hacking conspiracies aimed at interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. The indictment charges 11 of the defendants with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft, and conspiracy to launder money. Two defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.

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U.S. v. Konstantin Kilimnik (1:17-cr-201, District of Columbia)

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned a third superseding indictment on June 8, 2018, against Konstantin Kilimnik, of Moscow, Russia. Kilimnik is charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice and obstruction of justice.

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U.S. v. Richard W. Gates III (1:17-cr-201, District of Columbia)

Richard W. Gates III of Richmond, Va., pleaded guilty on Feb. 23, 2018, to a superseding criminal information that includes: count one of the indictment, which charges conspiracy against the United States, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 371 (which includes conspiracy to violate 26 U.S.C. 7206(1), 31 U.S.C. 5312 and 5322(b), and 22 U.S.C. 612, 618(a)(1), and 618(a)(2)), and a charge of making false statements to the Special Counsel’s Office and FBI agents, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001.

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U.S. v. Paul J. Manafort, Jr., and Richard W. Gates III (1:18-cr-83, Eastern District of Virginia)

Paul J. Manafort, Jr., of Alexandria, Va., and Richard W. Gates III, of Richmond, Va., were indicted by a federal grand jury on Feb. 22, 2018, in the Eastern District of Virginia. The indictment contains 32 counts: 16 counts related to false individual income tax returns, seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts, five counts of bank fraud conspiracy, and four counts of bank fraud. On March 1, 2018, the court granted a motion to dismiss without prejudice the charges against Gates, following his guilty plea in a related case in the District of Columbia (1:17-cr-201). On Aug. 21, 2018, a federal jury found Manafort guilty on eight counts: counts 1-5, subscribing to a false individual income tax return for tax years 2010-2014; count 12, failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts for year 2012; count 25, bank fraud; and count 27, bank fraud. The court declared a mistrial on 10 counts (counts 11, 13-14, 24, 26, 28-32). As part of his plea agreement on Sept. 14, 2018, Manafort admitted his guilt of the remaining counts against him in this case.

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U.S. v. Alex van der Zwaan (1:18-cr-31, District of Columbia)

Alex van der Zwaan, of London, pleaded guilty on Feb. 20, 2018, to making false statements to FBI agents, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001. Van der Zwaan was sentenced on April 3, 2018, to serve 30 days in prison and pay a $20,000 fine.

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U.S. v. Internet Research Agency, et al (1:18-cr-32, District of Columbia)

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment on Feb. 16, 2018, against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities accused of violating U.S. criminal laws in order to interfere with U.S. elections and political processes. The indictment charges all of the defendants with conspiracy to defraud the United States, three defendants with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and five defendants with aggravated identity theft.

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U.S. v. Richard Pinedo, et al (1:18-cr-24, District of Columbia)

Richard Pinedo, of Santa Paula, Calif., pleaded guilty on Feb. 12, 2018, to identity fraud, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1028. On Oct. 10, 2018, Pinedo was sentenced to serve six months in prison, followed by six months of home confinement, and ordered to complete 100 hours of community service.

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U.S. v. Michael T. Flynn (1:17-cr-232, District of Columbia)

Lieutenant General Michael T. Flynn (Ret.), of Alexandria, Va., pleaded guilty on Dec. 1, 2017, to making false statements to FBI agents, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001.

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U.S. v. George Papadopoulos (1:17-cr-182, District of Columbia)

George Papadopoulos, of Chicago, Illinois, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5, 2017, to making false statements to FBI agents, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001. The case was unsealed on Oct. 30, 2017. On Sept. 7, 2018, Papadopoulos was sentenced to serve 14 days in prison, pay a $9,500 fine, and complete 200 hours of community service.


Thank you for providing my sources for me! If you bother even reading what you posted you will see 2 things...

Several people they picked up surrounding Trump whom they dug to the bottom of the barrel to manufacture charges over, none of which have anything to do with Russia BTW. Then you have a handful of Russians that supposedly did all this hacking, that have NOTHING to do with Trump.

This is how lazy people like you are, and how willing you are to have your bias confirmed. You are too lazy to completely read even your own posts which prove your OWN ARGUMENT wrong!
6426  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 13 Dead at mass shooting in California Bar on: November 08, 2018, 02:01:24 PM
Just heard the report of another mass shooting in the US.

13 Dead at bar as gunman walks in and starts shooting.

I didn't see many details but it was reportedly a popular college bar.  No details released on the nut job yet, except he is one of the dead.

More violence, more dead people, MOAR guns please!

I am sure it is just a coincidence the vast majority of the shootings in the US happen in the 2% of counties with some of the strictest gun regulations in the US.
6427  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jim Acosta karate chops intern’s arm & loses White House press pass on: November 08, 2018, 02:00:24 PM
So much for freedom of the press.  Roll Eyes

I guess if the press asks you questions you don't like, you just silence them. Seems like a fair and free democracy.

I know all you leftists think illegally hijacking some one else's event, preventing others from speaking is free speech, but it is not. This is a White House press conference. No one has a RIGHT to be there. They are all invited, and as such must follow the laws, such as NO PHYSICALLY ASSAULTING THE STAFF for doing their job. Which is exactly what he did. He is lucky he didn't have charges filed as well.
6428  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 Midterms Watchparty! on: November 08, 2018, 04:57:18 AM
Newsweek, ScienceDirect, & The Social Security Administration = "conspiracy sites"

None of which support your conspiracy theory that millions of illegal immigrants vote.

I didn't say "millions of illegal immigrants vote", I said "I linked a study from a well respected peer reviewed journal showing hundreds of thousands if not MILLIONS of illegal immigrants voted." If you are going to try to debate me, at least debate statements I actually made.

Yep, The Social Security Administration, and well respected peer reviewed journals are conspiracy sites. Still on that weak argument of guilt by association are you?



There is no pivot, you argued illegal immigrants cant easily register to vote and I refuted that argument with documentation that it is often automatic. You not liking the fact your argument was refuted doesn't make it a "pivot".

During registration (depending on state laws and regulations) you either have to prove or declare that you're a citizen under penalty of perjury. So yes, they can commit a crime if they want to. So much risk for very little direct gain. You still don't have proof that "many" do.

Except when it is automatic you don't. Man, lies, those sure are hard. I mean we COULD protect our election integrity, but why should we? Would illegal immigrants lie? NO! NEVER! Even suggesting such is racist and offensive! They certainly also do not directly benefit from free education, free health care, snap benefits, etc, that they would simply have to tell a lie to vote for. They certainly aren't poorly educated impoverished people that will vote for whatever bullshit Democrats feed them as long as the gravy train keeps moving. SI SE PUEDE!




You don't get to pick which evidence you want to ignore and what you want to pretend is real. I linked a study from a well respected peer reviewed journal showing hundreds of thousands if not MILLIONS of illegal immigrants voted. Try arguing the contents of the sources instead of just defaulting to your lame "oh its all conspiracy theories so I don't even need to address it conveniently for me" stance.

Your "study" has been thoroughly debunked. Try again, this time with proper fact-checked proof.

I link you a peer reviewed study from a respected peer reviewed journal, and your retort is Snopes?  MMMkay. Even most of the left know how full of shit they are by now, but I guess you are behind the curve.  Regardless, the statement at Snopes reads:

"Did a Study Show That Hillary Clinton Received More Than 800,000 Votes from Non-Citizens in the 2016 Election?"

No, that was not even the premise of the study. You will notice they focus on Trumps claims and how they do not EXACTLY MATCH the most extremely exclusive interpretation of Trump's word possible.

The study said:

"the number of non-citizens who voted illegally in the 2008 election ranged “from just over 38,000 at the very minimum to nearly 2.8 million at the maximum.” Their “best estimate” is that 1.2 million or “6.4% of non-citizens actually voted.”"

In short this Snopes hack job is largely focused on Trump's claims, not the veracity of the study itself, so you haven't debunked anything. The only attempt to even argue the veracity of the study itself is based on claims the surveyed parties "made mistakes" answering surveys, and the replies were just mistakes. So they went back and rejiggered the survey, and partially re-conducted it to get the desired result to try to claim the original was invalid.

This is classic massaging of statistics to get numbers you want, but I don't expect you to understand this if you think scientific journals qualify as "conspiracy sites". He simply found a way to widen the margin of error and then disappear real results into that gap, then look, poof, they are "invalid".  The author even makes dumb statements like there were ZERO illegal immigrant voters, which tells me a lot about his credibility and bias right there.

6429  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeff Sessions Resigns at Trump Request on: November 08, 2018, 02:14:23 AM
With that said, I could see Lindsey in the role -- he seems like a pretty solid pick and a loyalist to Trump.

God help us no. Lindsey Graham is a complete rhino who goes the direction the person with the biggest whip tells him to. Right now that is Trump. He, like a lot of the Republican establishment, has been very resistant to Trump's policies up until recently after he has demonstrated his ability to deliver for them. I don't trust him ONE BIT in such a critical position. I would rather have Sessions back and I am glad he is gone.
6430  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: November 08, 2018, 02:07:53 AM
1. We should require internet ID for all services. If you want free speech we should at least know who you are. Barring that, at least make the ID private. Civility happens because people don't wanna be shot or beat up. If half the shit said on the web was said IRL people wouldn't like it much. It's giving power to groups to play identity politics and accumulate followers. AI driven fake news is a problem. I don't think speech should be banned and we should only see PC crap, just we should be able to ridicule the hell out of someone and be held accountable. The white identity people, the flat Earth society, conspiracy types, etc is nonsense, and we need to be able to at least vote it down to irrelevance without some special interest group with a bunch of AI doing it for us.

2. Fred Trump was in the KKK.

3. I didn't say it had to be human. I believe humans are incapable of managing themselves. The cybernetics people mid 20th century make Marx and Hayek look like school children. We never fully went head first into a cybernetic led society. The first to ever try was Chile by the socialist government and it worked so well it was destroyed when they fell. It was using 60s archaic mainframes! Lol.

https://youtu.be/wx26zpPg884



1. So what happens when dictators or tyrannical governments take control of those systems? If you need government approval to speak, is it really a right any more? That is a nice convenient list of people to round up for the gulags. Anonymity is critical to the free flow of information.


2. Pure speculation based on a single article from 1927.

"the Times account simply names Fred Trump as one of the seven individuals arrested at the rally, and it states that he was released without charges, leaving room for the possibility that he "may have been an innocent bystander, falsely named, or otherwise the victim of mistaken identity during or following a chaotic event." "

 Also are people responsible for their parents?


3. Uhhuh... you have fun with your trans-humanist technocratic communist utopia stories.
6431  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 Midterms Watchparty! on: November 08, 2018, 01:58:12 AM
Quote from: suchmoon link=topic=5064580.msg47682520#msg47682520
I don't have a problem with having to present an ID when voting. But you definitely need to brush up on how voter registration works if you think that a non-citizen could just walk in and vote. Trump started voter fraud investigation in 2017 and it found nothing,

Cool story bro:

Non-Citizens Voting in Texas? "We got TONS of them" Says Election Official on Undercover Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veE5-O6wACw

DMV Will AUTOMATICALLY Register Illegal Aliens to Vote—by COURT ORDER: www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/alert-starting-april-1-california-dmv-will-automatically-register-illegal-aliens-to-vote-by-court-order/

https://www.newsweek.com/immigrants-are-getting-right-vote-cities-across-america-664467

"the authors of this paper found that the number of non-citizens who voted illegally in the 2008 election ranged “from just over 38,000 at the very minimum to nearly 2.8 million at the maximum.” Their “best estimate” is that 1.2 million or “6.4% of non-citizens actually voted.”"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973


ETC: https://www.justfactsdaily.com/substantial-numbers-of-non-citizens-vote-illegally-in-u-s-elections/

You also act like identity fraud is not a common tactic of illegal aliens here as well. They steal all kinds of benefits and services they don't pay into, often using the SSNs of citizens, why wouldn't they also steal our votes for more of those handouts?


"This is shown in a 2013 investigation by the U.S. Social Security Administration, which found that about 1.8 million illegal immigrants worked in 2010 by using a Social Security number “that did not match their name.” Furthermore, the study found that another 0.7 million illegal immigrants worked in 2010 with Social Security numbers that they obtained by using “fraudulent birth certificates.” Notably, a Social Security number is a common requirement for voter registration."

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf



Also another little detail you missed... a lot of states give drivers licenses to illegal aliens, and at the same time register them to vote automatically. Many of these systems have no active system for filtering or removing non-citizens. So the fact is they don't have to even actively register, all they have to do is walk in and vote if they already have a drivers license.








many of them actually do vote.

Which you still have no proof of. Youtube videos and conspiracy sites don't count.

Then you pivot to automatic registration and other stuff that has no relevance.

So how about this - how "many" illegal voters have been convicted?


hidden cam video of actual poll workers openly advocating illegal alien voting = "youtube videos"

Newsweek, ScienceDirect, & The Social Security Administration = "conspiracy sites"

As usual, you have no argument so you attack the sources, which in this case are pretty impeccable as far as standards go, except for maybe Newsweek, but that is hardly a conspiracy site.

There is no pivot, you argued illegal immigrants cant easily register to vote and I refuted that argument with documentation that it is often automatic. You not liking the fact your argument was refuted doesn't make it a "pivot".

You don't get to pick which evidence you want to ignore and what you want to pretend is real. I linked a study from a well respected peer reviewed journal showing hundreds of thousands if not MILLIONS of illegal immigrants voted. Try arguing the contents of the sources instead of just defaulting to your lame "oh its all conspiracy theories so I don't even need to address it conveniently for me" stance.
6432  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW—MUELLER FIRING RAPID RESPONSE on: November 07, 2018, 11:44:38 PM
I am sure the evidence of that Russian collusion will come out any day now... any day.... any.... day...

This is just an excuse for the Democrats to pretend like the public didn't vote Trump in, so they have an excuse ignore the mandate of the voters.

So because Democrats accuse Trump, he is not allowed to appoint an attorney general of his choosing, to be voted on in the senate committee, like every other president?

BREAKING NEWS: Trump looked at a Matryoshka doll on eBay on his phone while taking a dump this morning! The doll has been indicted and the CEO of eBay Inc. has been subpoenaed for testimony. IT IS PROOF. HE IS AN AGENT OF PUTIN.
6433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 Midterms Watchparty! on: November 07, 2018, 10:51:24 PM

Except they did. Review my previous post including many direct sources.
6434  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeff Sessions Resigns at Trump Request on: November 07, 2018, 10:21:14 PM
Matt Whittaker is the interim AG.

You can see his position on the Mueller investigation he's been quite vocal about it.

Sessions just became a witness in the Mueller investigation haha!

Rosenstien is next? He's on his way to the WH for a pre-scheduled meeting.

Wednesday massacre?

It amazes me how the left can continually keep this level of enthusiasm for investigations that have yielded zero evidence to support the claim of serious Russian interference in the elections, then rape accusations with no evidence, now more Russia accusations with no evidence again...over and over, and none of you ever bother to follow up on these endless synthetic scandals. The left has the attention span of gold fish. You keep dreaming. The hammer will come down any day now... any day.... any day.... any... day....


Trump has wanted sessions out for a while now because he refuses to bring investigations and prosecutions against certain people in spite of mountains of evidence. He didn't replace him before mid-terms because he knew the Democrats would leverage it, turn it into another shit show, and hold it up until after the elections in the hope they could have more control over approval of the appointment. Now that the senate majority is confirmed, he is free to replace him.
6435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 Midterms Watchparty! on: November 07, 2018, 10:11:34 PM
Even snopes admit it...

It says pretty much the opposite:

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What's True
California has implemented a law providing for the automatic voter registration of motorists who obtain or renew driver's licenses, and critics contend that the law will make it easier for non-citizens to unlawfully vote.

What's False
California has not implemented a law authorizing non-citizens to vote in federal elections.

Not citizenship?

The requirements are the same for automatic or non-automatic voter registration so not sure what you're getting at here. Non-citizens are not allowed to vote in either case and it's still a crime to do so.

Also another little detail you missed... a lot of states give drivers licenses to illegal aliens, and at the same time register them to vote automatically. Many of these systems have no active system for filtering or removing non-citizens. So the fact is they don't have to even actively register, all they have to do is walk in and vote if they already have a drivers license.

So if I want money all I need to do is walk into a convenience store and ask for the contents of their cash register. Not a single problem with that scenario, right?

BTW voter ID does fuck all to solve that.

No one claimed California passed a law allowing illegal aliens to vote in federal elections, so I am not sure what the point of even posting that is.

Everyone has been pretty clear here we are talking about illegal aliens voting illegally and skewing election results.

Also I am not sure what your snarky refractory reply about a convenience store does to argue against that fact that illegal aliens with drivers license are automatically registered to vote, and many of them actually do vote.
6436  Other / Politics & Society / REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: November 07, 2018, 09:51:04 PM
Since Flying Hellfish can't engage in an actual debate without being able silence ideas he disagrees with, I thought I would post my replies to comments here as he deleted them. Perhaps people can engage in an actual debate this way, and not just have some childish club where leftists stand around and reassure each other of their correctitude, normalizing increasingly erratic behavior.

I am sure you would prefer the whole internet be sanitized from ideas you dislike like they do on Facebook and Twitter, but most of us don't...



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Trump really is a big baby LOL!

You know, a lot of people have been saying the same thing about Democrats since 2016 when they refused to accept the results of the election. To this day they maintain that it was done in some other way than legally, yet have presented no evidence of this for years as more and more accusations pile up, but the spot where the evidence goes is still empty.

Once again another clear cut example of the left accusing their opponents of the crimes they themselves are guilty of, right out of Rules For Radicals. FYI I look forward to you deleting this in a fit over having your opinions challenged Wink


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Trump and all the Nazi white identity pieces of shit made me leave the right and turn into a staunch globalist. You don't even need AI, a Roomba could govern better than the Donald.

I agree with a lot of what you said in your previous post, in spite of it being a bit rambling and disjointed.

One question for you, lets say for the sake of argument Trump is this Nazi you think he is. Which do you think is more vulnerable to being exploited to negative effect? A single nation or the entire global government? I mean to me... it kind of seems like a global government shouldn't exist for the simple reason that it will instantly become an unaccountable layer providing systemic unaccountability for those that run it, as well as making the number of people being needed to subvert this government even smaller.

I mean this is the Bitcoin forums... aren't we all convinced that decentralization is important yet? It only seems logical localities rule over their own lives, if only to prevent some inevitably tyrannical global level government.


6437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 Midterms Watchparty! on: November 07, 2018, 09:41:37 PM
Quote from: suchmoon link=topic=5064580.msg47682520#msg47682520
I don't have a problem with having to present an ID when voting. But you definitely need to brush up on how voter registration works if you think that a non-citizen could just walk in and vote. Trump started voter fraud investigation in 2017 and it found nothing,

Cool story bro:

Non-Citizens Voting in Texas? "We got TONS of them" Says Election Official on Undercover Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veE5-O6wACw

DMV Will AUTOMATICALLY Register Illegal Aliens to Vote—by COURT ORDER: www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/alert-starting-april-1-california-dmv-will-automatically-register-illegal-aliens-to-vote-by-court-order/

https://www.newsweek.com/immigrants-are-getting-right-vote-cities-across-america-664467

"the authors of this paper found that the number of non-citizens who voted illegally in the 2008 election ranged “from just over 38,000 at the very minimum to nearly 2.8 million at the maximum.” Their “best estimate” is that 1.2 million or “6.4% of non-citizens actually voted.”"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973


ETC: https://www.justfactsdaily.com/substantial-numbers-of-non-citizens-vote-illegally-in-u-s-elections/

You also act like identity fraud is not a common tactic of illegal aliens here as well. They steal all kinds of benefits and services they don't pay into, often using the SSNs of citizens, why wouldn't they also steal our votes for more of those handouts?


"This is shown in a 2013 investigation by the U.S. Social Security Administration, which found that about 1.8 million illegal immigrants worked in 2010 by using a Social Security number “that did not match their name.” Furthermore, the study found that another 0.7 million illegal immigrants worked in 2010 with Social Security numbers that they obtained by using “fraudulent birth certificates.” Notably, a Social Security number is a common requirement for voter registration."

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf



Also another little detail you missed... a lot of states give drivers licenses to illegal aliens, and at the same time register them to vote automatically. Many of these systems have no active system for filtering or removing non-citizens. So the fact is they don't have to even actively register, all they have to do is walk in and vote if they already have a drivers license.

6438  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can the media protect our democracy and freedom? on: November 07, 2018, 08:29:39 PM
We are the media. Quite literally. Not only in reality but as intended by the framers of The US Constitution. Anyone who is making a huge industry of media is selling you entertainment, not information. Our only hope is if we save ourselves.

If you do not cultivate your own mind, some one else will, and it will not be to your benefit.
6439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeff Sessions Resigns at Trump Request on: November 07, 2018, 08:27:14 PM
I think Sessions had some kind of dirt on him he didn't want getting out. A lot of Republicans don't even really like him. He spent his whole time under Trump's administration fence sitting.

Also I think Trump didn't expect this insane level of sabotage from the left and made the pick of Sessions under that context. Now that they have revealed their true motives, I predict he will pick some one with a good clean record and a spine. High level perp walks should follow from the years of evidence that went unprosecuted due to complicity under previous administrations.
6440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 Midterms Watchparty! on: November 07, 2018, 06:46:08 PM
I hope I am tremendously mistaken but the future of the free world looks grim..

With what power we have left until 2020 if we don't do something serious about the millions of leftist voters that came here and are coming here just to rape our country for their own personal gain, it's over..

I'm just saying that the leader of your party seems to think it's a success  Grin

You know the future of the free world also involves the other half of voters that you don't like... what exactly do you suggest to prevent them from voting?

BLUE WAVE! BLUE WAVE!

[creeps by barely having a majority]

WE WON! TRUMP SEEMS TO THINK THIS WAS A SUCCESS! HAH!

He did win. Your "blue wave" was a pathetic trickle. The Democrats got just enough rope to hang themselves with, and since they have serious learning problems they will do just that.

FYI just standing on the Earth within the confines of the USA doesn't give you a right to vote. Also pretending like the left is not simply buying votes by giving more and more handouts as they import more and more unskilled impoverished workers from high crime areas of the world is kind of childish.

If you can't see the conflict of interest here you value your emotions over logic. Their base is increasingly fleeing to the right, so they have to import illegal voters just to keep up. This is why they fight so hard against voter ID laws. You can't even get on a plane without ID, but you can vote without one? This disenfranchises no one while protecting the rights of eligible voters by preventing fraud.

Reality and logic are truly the compassionate choices. Not pretty lies that make people feel good now at the cost of creating hell on Earth later.
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