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661  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2019, 10:33:37 PM
Slow accumulation of bitcoins followed by sudden dump is definitely price suppression technique. The more they use it to suppress price the sharper will be price rise! Don't fall in the psychological trap manipulators are crafting! Don't sell your bitcoins if price is below $50,000!


You won’t see me selling a single satoshi under $50,000. Patience is required here, if you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.

Weak hands - not permitted!


A bit dumb, I'm for sure selling at 48,000. You know there will be a rejection dump at 50k.

i would sell some at 45k too.

The daily menu of bread and water it´s getting boring.

I would sell my first fraction of btc at 51k. You dumbasses.
Agreed. Anything below 51k is mental. wink fucking wink
662  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2019, 09:50:37 PM


its going HARD AF

nice set up?
Never seen that kind of Milka, damn.
663  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2019, 09:36:22 PM
But if you're really hell bent on finding the true reasoning, the genesis hat started here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg46916490#msg46916490
Need to start a petition for 1% interest on your received merit. Per day, week, month, who cares. Whatever keeps it sufficiently uninflated for negating bots.
664  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2019, 09:26:51 PM
Relevantly both of us place upcoming resistance at $4,500.  Perhaps it doesn't matter how we come to the conclusion that resistance is at $4,500, if we both agree on it.  



Perhaps not for the conversation. But from a trader's perspective it can be useful to consider how other people might think about the market. Mostly for deciding on how to stagger out your orders.
665  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2019, 06:50:35 PM
Why is the cake day man giving out the presents? Roll Eyes
666  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2019, 06:42:06 PM
I can finally play Super Mario Kart in 4k 144hz HDR. The future is now.
667  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2019, 06:07:57 PM
Bitcoin is ded.
668  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2019, 05:39:30 PM
Even after all these years it mainly comes up as some joke or dig among the sheeple at work :/



Even after all these years it still seems "too good to be true" from a ROI perspective. When that is no longer the case some sheeple will join for crumbs and once those are mostly gone the rest will follow simply because they will have to in order to participate in the market.
669  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2019, 05:20:56 PM
Despite the 14-month long bear market, BTC transaction rate reaching 2017 all-time high.

Transaction fees also have remained relatively stable.




I really can't understand what is causing that much tx's. I mean, the peak of 2017 was probably because of people claiming forks and the FOMO (buying/selling)  during the last months. What is happening now? Is it increasing adoption in the middle of a bear market?

On second thought... fees were as much expensive during the 2017 peak that many people (including me) were very shy about sending any tx unless strictly needed. Now you can do it without a second thought.
I'm not sure if normal users have any significant impact on BTC prices. So an increase in use doesn't necessarily imply an increase in price.

The average person has an annual post-tax income of around 1-2k USD. Take 2/3 away for rent, food and other expenses and you're left with some 300-600 USD. It would then take 10m users chipping away their entire disposable monthly income on Bitcoin.
And even then it would only account for the 24h volume or 10% of the market cap.

In reality the average person probably has less money left over and wouldn't think about putting it all in, much less regularly.

The bottom line is that unless hundreds of millions jump on simultaneously there won't be much movement in the price (based on increased use).
I'm almost fully convinced that the big players are (basically) just waiting for golden and death crosses on long-term charts and thus reinforcing the self-fulfilling prophecy of technical trading with everything else just being short-term noise until a truly big change in the landscape, such as institutional money actually flooding onto the blockchain instead of non-physically settled instruments, occurs.
670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2019, 05:37:05 PM
Cryptocurrency Behaviour Study Confirms MetCalfe’s Law Applies to Bitcoin in the Long Term

"We prove, in the medium to long-run, the validity of the Metcalfe’s law (the value of a network is proportional to the square of the number of connected users of the system) for the evaluation of cryptocurrencies; however, in the short-run, the validity of the Metcalfe’s law for Bitcoin is questionable."

https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/cryptocurrency-behaviour-study-confirms-metcalfes-law-applies-to-bitcoin-in-the-long-term/

http://www.economics-ejournal.org/economics/discussionpapers/2019-16/file
So one Pentillion market cap at one Billion users? $50m USD per BTC?
671  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2019, 07:39:02 PM
Australia probably doesn’t have any gold because it sold it for beer and bug spray 30 years ago.
I don't think bug spray is going to be very effective in Australia.
672  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2019, 01:53:25 AM
@HM

Do you think that it is possible that very soon (maybe they are doing it already) AI would have close to perfect market predictions?

I saw this article about protein folding. Best scientists were beaten by AI with a large margin.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/2/15/18226493/deepmind-alphafold-artificial-intelligence-protein-folding

Interesting points there: will scientists (apart from those programming AI maybe) become obsolete?
A large part of doing science is based on being able to stake the claim that you did something first (discovery, etc.).
Personally, I don't see much use of doing science of you are doing so at some primitive level when AI gets all the "best parts".
This would feel awful.
There will be a crisis (maybe limited to natural sciences, though).
We could be already in it and will realize it soon.
I don't see humans not merging with AI in some way down the line, or at least enhancing our bandwidth for information processing. Someone will have to keep identifying desirable problems, so humans will need to self-enhance to be capable of keeping up with the results of AI research and deciding on new targets.


Also, no. No AI will ever make perfect market predictions. Simply because different players will employ different AIs to play against each other. At that point humans might be entirely incapable of trading manually though, as AIs would be capable of forcing market movements over any short and large time scales. It'll basically make humans play into its pocket.
673  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 09:53:20 PM
telomers would not solve anything, you would get more cancer as a side effect (a fact).

AFAIK, only causes cancer once the "original protective" telomeres have been naturally degraded.

Theoretically, a solution can be found if there is a way to bio-engineer a way to do this in-utero or as a "vaccine" upon birth.

it could, but short telomers are mostly associated with aging.
The most relevant quote is this:
Quote
Although tumors may arise from cells with short telomeres and chromosomal instability, telomerase activation and telomere maintenance are requisites for the progression of most human tumor types.

If you are into this stuff, here is an excellent review (with free access):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3896987/


You can use Sci-Hub to access any paper if you have the DOI (serial number kind of thing). Basically the pirate bay of research.
674  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 08:53:54 PM
Massive clinical trials for anti-aging are taking place atm..here is one off the top of my head. I think there is a real possibility that we could be one of the last generations to die.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30616998

https://www.sciencealert.com/experimental-anti-aging-treatment-that-kills-old-cells-has-passed-first-human-trial
Man wasn't meant to live forever, we don't need a 1000 year reigning Nero.

Speak for yourself Wink

Who doesn't want 1000 years of watching bitcoin price? What a life. I would spend my 1000 years shitposting here with you lovable bastards. not roach
One Billion Dollar Bitcoin party.
675  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 05:37:14 PM
Do you regularly do anything that actively challenges you mentally? Picking up new things (actively, not through osmosis) helps with concentration and accuracy.

Aye. Constantly. The spirit is willing but the hardware has been flushed away.
I find it easy to get lost in what seems like progress, but in this particular sense isn't.
This gets harder the more you do, since there are strong fundamental parallels between seemingly different things.

Basically, the more you're capable of, the easier it becomes to pick up new things because you get to recycle old skills. And while you'll learn more faster, you might actually be investing less energy due to the recycling.

I'd consider that passive learning and feel like that doesn't help you keep your edge with regard to focus and attention.

Perhaps looking out for that could help if you don't already.


Do everything to save your health take every precaution- stay away from Drugs

Your body is your Temple. but for f... sake don't die a virgin Because......... Grin





https://twitter.com/DrOOelm/status/1097124423621136384
You can take (some) drugs responsibly in ways that don't have any impact on your health span.
676  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 05:26:59 PM
some good on the post = cigarettes when<------

quitting that is a huge succes

I massively regret quitting smoking.

It's been 18 months now. There have been absolutely no health benefits, none. No difference in taste or smell, my breathing is exactly the same. What is different is that it has completely fucked my brain. I have a fraction of the concentration I used to have and even when I do concentrate I make mistakes in a way I never used to. I would start again but I doubt it's going to repair my mind so I have to pay small Filipinos to come in and brush my teeth these days.
Do you regularly do anything that actively challenges you mentally? Picking up new things (actively, not through osmosis) helps with concentration and accuracy.
677  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 05:07:54 PM
It'd also probably be quite cumbersome to shit billions and billions and billions of human bodies for replacements.

Billions? For what reason do you believe billions can afford this at any time in the next millennia. It will only be for the lucky few if available at all.
Economics of scale. Cost of production for everything is going down and with abundant energy (fusion) and advances in AI physical "things" will be virtually free. But producing all those bodies would still be less desirable than just getting some vaccine.
678  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 05:03:40 PM
It is your memory which makes you "you". So as long as your memory lives, you live. Whether it lives on a computer or on a living body doesn't matter.

As long as you still remember certain events happened in your life, that's you.
I disagree. You precede your memories. Without you being there first there is no you to have memories.

The question is then whether or not you are the substrate that holds the memories. And in that case people run into a problem about putting their memories on a "different" computer (which my previous post shows how to solve in the future).



I'm really interested but I think the "best" thing so far is Rapamycine and that is highly experimental, only tested on mice and its unknown why it works.

I've been looking at this at least yearly for a decade and its a strong desire of mine as I consider human lives crazy short (plus I want to see the future, living is the only time machine likely feasible in our universe).

If you have better/more info available I'm very interested. Links are perfectly fine too.

Thanks! Smiley
Not really sure about any links since I haven't checked in for a while. But you can run any of the keywords into Google and find plenty of sources.

There are some serious researchers in Cambridge, Harvard and similar places these days. The main research institute for aging appears to be SENS by the way.

And with some of the keywords I've mentioned they're not directly being pursued for aging, but if you look at them you'll see that they offer themselves to that in the future.
679  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 04:53:53 PM
The damage is too much. We are talking about irreparable "data-loss" damage here. You can't repair what is already gone. In the future, you could probably farm a genetical clone from the available DNA but the brain is fucked up.
With the information argument there's at bare minimum the option of restoring a human with impairments, then fixing the damage that stops them from acting human. Worst case scenario would be total (but probably partial) memory loss. Which would still potentially be preferable to some to certain death.

And I'm not convinced whatsoever that any of the damage is permanently irreversible.

We run data compression all the time. In reverse that means that you don't need full information to restore everything that's relevant.
680  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2019, 04:48:49 PM
The problem with the full body transplant is mainly making the neural reconnections. Once that solved most the way ahead is clear. Nanotech, microsurgery, automation, etc... advances in those fields maybe could lead to that. But I thought maybe some "crude" experiment with moderate success could have already been made in animals. It seems not.

Digital mind/upload is another way I don't think is viable as a life extending alternative. I mean, you could end with a similar person but it would just be a copy, not me, not my conscience of being me.... if it was even possible anyways.

Reversing/halting the effects of aging also sound like sci-fi at this time. More so the reversing part of it.

It's the full body transplant the only thing I could consider viable even if the tech to carry it is still way far.

There are artificial limbs (arms with hands and fingers) that were successfully attached to amputees. They were connected to the nerves of the patient, which was then able to use the arm as his own while also being able to feel things with it. So we already have this demonstrated not in animals, but in humans. The reason this is moving so slowly is because you can't just walk around attaching heads to bodies.

I don't see why the digital presence should not be you, as long as the connection is established properly (rather than just copying your memories onto a computer).

But there is a simple solution to this problem.

You create an interface with which you are simultaneously aware of your physical body and digital presence. Add a function that allows you to temporarily enable and disable either presence while keeping your consciousness. That way you can test for yourself if the digital version of you is still "you". Depending on the results of this you can choose yourself what you want to do.


May sound sci-fi, but is not. It's reality and has been demonstrated in rats and more primitive animals. Life-spans have been extended quite significantly in those and clinical human trials started this year. The problem with human trials is that, well, it kind of takes a lifetime to get one data point.

Full body transplant is the one that seems the most bothersome to me. At least for life extension purposes. This seems more like a "get a resilient body that won't get smashed in a car accident" kind of thing. It'd also probably be quite cumbersome to shit billions and billions and billions of human bodies for replacements.
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