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6621  Economy / Reputation / Re: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? on: October 24, 2018, 07:01:10 PM
Interesting you accuse me of a logical fallacy while in the same breath using a false choice fallacy, as if not shotgunning negatives left and right is equivalent to letting go "thousands of abusers, cheaters, and attempted scammers". Oh, I see now I am the PERPETRATOR here, and after anal retentively searching my ratings that is all you could come up with I'm sure. The Stazi would have loved you.
Yes, you and anyone who wants to let the shady individuals run wild are essentially perpetrators. In certain scenarios, allowing certain actions to be committed can make you worse than the one who actually commits the action. There are plenty of non-forum scenarios where this is objectively correct; now apply accordingly.

..and after anal retentively searching my ratings that is all you could come up with I'm sure. The Stazi would have loved you.
The only thing I can clearly see is that you like slapping the word Nazi on the opposing side. Now where have I seen this before? Hmm.





I am sure this bait is just a lame attempt for you to distract from your own issues. BTW, I didn't call you a nazi, I said the Stazi would have loved you. Quite a difference, not like facts are important to you though when you have a narrative to push.

You know what makes the forum worse? Pushing out people before they even get a chance to learn the rules here by shotgunning negative ratings. Scammers will always return, the legit users you burn won't.
6622  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN on: October 24, 2018, 06:54:23 PM
I am sure this is all just a coincidence that all these people promoting this invasion caravan stuff suddenly are all getting "bombs" in the mail, right before the elections. Gotta cast yourself as the victim just like the invasion caravan. Funny, Soros's employee was pretty ballsey moving it rather than following the standard procedure of leaving the device in place and contacting law enforcement. Of course moving an IED is a little less nerve wracking if you know it won't go off...

Also notice the FBI nor the ATF are confirming that they were ACTUAL explosive devices yet, only that they "appeared to be explosive device(s)". Since standard operating procedure is to blow up the devices, there would be little way to know if it was actually armed or not. This reeks as yet another desperate last ditch attempt to salvage midterms for the Democrats.
6623  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Dr. Magorium's Mystery Box Emporium on: October 24, 2018, 02:59:31 PM
Bought some steam games! The games are worth more than what I've paid! Looking forward for our next transaction  Grin

Thank you for being my first Steam game mystery box customer! See you soon!
6624  Economy / Reputation / Re: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? on: October 24, 2018, 01:37:13 PM
As usual the same characters have trouble having a discussion like adults and resort to personal attacks. I didn't even say this guy was innocent, I said I could see how he could be. Lets not pretend like you all carefully investigate each and every claim before rating. Sorry what happened 4 years ago or whatever it was does not invalidate my words in perpetuity. Especially in consideration of what the system has turned into since then (but who knew it would happen, not me!). I find it hilarious people pointing out the speck in my eye when they have a redwood lodged in their own. I have opinions you don't always agree with. Deal with it.

Yeah what do I know I have only been here since before it existed and watched it degrade every step of the way from pretty much every angle. The only real way to demonstrate trust is by having an exchange where the ability to steal is there, but does not happen. Otherwise what you are describing is a system of belief, not a system of trust. By the way, speaking of trust, you think you might find that missing BCH any time soon?
So your argument is: appeal to authority && ad hominem filled with lies? Nice rebuttal. It's lovely how you are trying to let go thousands of abusers, cheaters and attempted scammers because it suits your biased narrative. Not similar to OP at all. Roll Eyes

You're the exact type that would let semi-fraudulent people appear trustworthy here due to their pajeet trades (Oh right, it's not like we've already had examples of people buying stuff from DT members that leave positive ratings for minuscule amounts).

It's worth placing this here again.

No, my argument is I have been here for the entirety of the system and before it, hence I have seen its degradation, and warned about much of this early on, and as usual was attacked for pointing this out, much like you are doing now.

Interesting you accuse me of a logical fallacy while in the same breath using a false choice fallacy, as if not shotgunning negatives left and right is equivalent to letting go "thousands of abusers, cheaters, and attempted scammers". Oh, I see now I am the PERPETRATOR here, and after anal retentively searching my ratings that is all you could come up with I'm sure. The Stazi would have loved you.
6625  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you consider a painting "art" if it's made by an AI? on: October 24, 2018, 10:54:02 AM
If a monkey takes a picture, is it art? Who owns the rights?
6626  Other / Meta / Re: TMAN'S guide to getting merit. on: October 24, 2018, 10:52:15 AM
Personally I don't care of the user's language skills are poor as long as they are producing something of substance useful to others and not whoring affiliate links. It just so happens the people who do that stuff most also have poor language skills so they tend to get grouped together easily.
6627  Economy / Reputation / Re: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? on: October 24, 2018, 10:41:10 AM
I don't usually look for people who have lots of trading experience, but for people who can leave what I believe to be accurate ratings. I have done very little actual trading here in the grand scheme of things, and was put on DT initially by BadBear probably for my ratings on scammers which he must have thought were accurate enough. At the time of that I'd probably only engaged in one or two actual trades here other than earnings from signature campaigns etc.  

This is kind of at the essence of the problem, the people the rating system effects the most, traders, are pushed to the side and lots of political games are played to the point it becomes less useful for those that need and use it the most. IMO there needs to be a requirement of some kind of material loss that can be documented to leave valid ratings. Either this or some other form of feedback that is purely for anything OTHER THAN trade.
It's not a trade system, it's a system-of-trust. Stop spewing nonsense.

Yeah what do I know I have only been here since before it existed and watched it degrade every step of the way from pretty much every angle. The only real way to demonstrate trust is by having an exchange where the ability to steal is there, but does not happen. Otherwise what you are describing is a system of belief, not a system of trust. By the way, speaking of trust, you think you might find that missing BCH any time soon?

6628  Economy / Reputation / Re: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? on: October 24, 2018, 10:34:03 AM
I don't usually look for people who have lots of trading experience, but for people who can leave what I believe to be accurate ratings. I have done very little actual trading here in the grand scheme of things, and was put on DT initially by BadBear probably for my ratings on scammers which he must have thought were accurate enough. At the time of that I'd probably only engaged in one or two actual trades here other than earnings from signature campaigns etc. 

This is kind of at the essence of the problem, the people the rating system effects the most, traders, are pushed to the side and lots of political games are played to the point it becomes less useful for those that need and use it the most. IMO there needs to be a requirement of some kind of material loss that can be documented to leave valid ratings. Either this or some other form of feedback that is purely for anything OTHER THAN trade.
6629  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cultural Appropriation and Acceptable Racism on: October 24, 2018, 07:51:32 AM
I can't help but guess your pillars of identity on the basis that you automatically think the entire concept of privilege is "stupid".   Probably proves my point. Thinking this is stupid is highly indicative of privilege.

Or perhaps he supports equality of opportunity and has the good sense to know equality of outcome is impossible.
6630  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Bitcoin socialist dream come true ? on: October 24, 2018, 07:50:10 AM
I have no idea where you are getting an idea that resources need to be "collected" by the government for the common good and you said communism/socialism/marxism which confused me even further.  It sounds like you are talking about state socialism again. or maybe you are talking about a welfare state?  A welfare state can exist independent of the economic system.  We have a welfare state in a capitalist system and it would work the same way with socialism.  

In socialism, people collect resources by working.  The only force government uses in socialism would be to protect each individual's economic freedom and certainly not to force anyone to do anything.  Once you have economic freedom embedded into society, everyone will have opportunity to determine their own life.

In communism, there are no funds, or collection of anything.  People just use what they need kind of like an all-inclusive resort.  Communism is hard for most people to fathom because it only exists in a world post-scarcity.  We can't really comprehend that because we only think about the world in terms of scarcity.  It doesn't happen overnight and requires a long period of socialism to eliminate class, increase efficiency, and reduce scarcity.


Oh believe me I have no trouble visualizing your fantasy, the problem is you have ZERO methods for reaching that goal. You are telling me a lot about what you think Socialism is not, but very little of what it actually is (in your mind). I keep asking how it is implemented and how we get there but all you have are nebulous buzzwords and some scoffing like I am just too obtuse to understand your advanced ideology. Get over yourself.

If this is a real thing, that can really be done like you imagine it, then you should have no problem explaining exactly how we get there. Then there is the minor fact that every time this was ever attempted at scale millions died. I am sure this time though will be all cupcakes and fireflies.
6631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IPDC - War on drugs a failure on: October 24, 2018, 05:26:00 AM
Since alcohol is such a contributor to morbidity and morality, wouldn’t legalising drugs make heroin and cocaine the new alcohol?  So now all the extra taxes the government collects it spends on cleaning up addicts?  Seems like wishful thinking that more legalising drugs thereby making more addicts will somehow NOT affect society negatively as they mingle amongst us and our families around town on an LSD high.  

What do the police do with intoxicated people (of any substance) wandering the streets now? There people are already all around you guy, and you don't even realize it, unless you live in like Singapore or Saudi Arabia.
6632  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: October 24, 2018, 05:20:28 AM
Rather than respond bluefirecorp_ just continues to move on, not bothering to support his premise with proof. It is much easier to sell bullshit when you stay away from facts and debate stuff that has no demonstrable direct causal connection.

Stop running away and making excuses.
QUOTE YOUR EMPIRICAL DATA SUPPORTING THE THEORY OF ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING.
6633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Bitcoin socialist dream come true ? on: October 24, 2018, 05:15:20 AM
I think what you mean to say is that we cannot transition to communism without government and that would be true.  Communism itself cannot exist with a state Any system with a state is not a communist system.  Socialism is the transition towards communism and that transition period sees the government get smaller and smaller until it is no longer needed.  Once resources are in the hands of communities, the means of production i in the hand of workers, and everything is completely democratic, there is no longer a need for government. 

Communism is idealistic and you are having trouble grasping it with a mindset that is operating within the context of the current system.

Don't speak for me, I will do that myself thanks. Why don't you try answering my question instead of telling me what I mean and what I should think instead.

So far your attempt at a response, if I can call it that, is to say oh yeah Communism is stateless, but we need the state to get there. EXPLAIN IN DETAIL how funds are collected for the common good without the state and without the use of force.
6634  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Bitcoin socialist dream come true ? on: October 23, 2018, 10:38:01 PM
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MINERS = CAPITAL

It is all the perspective how you look at it... no its not, and stop encouraging this maroon. Why is it that Soclialists love nothing better than just redefining Capitalism until it serves their ideas to justify Socialism?

MINERS = CAPITAL

THERE IS NO DEBATE. A miner is property. Property is capital. There is no "other way" of looking at it. It is a fact.



Clearly you are not with the Newspeak program.


Hahaha... I am reading the 1984 book right now Smiley

It's not uncommon for wannabe Communist idiots to (A) call themselves socialists (B) say that "people own property." This really means that "people in the aggregate" own property, but if they said that, people would realize the state owned everything. That's not nice, right?

What's nice is to make everything LOOK COOL, then fool people into giving everything away and getting little or nothing back. The system does not work without the lying.

This would've been clever if statelessness wasn't key characteristic of communism, which soclialism is a stride towards.  Poor logic to suggest a system of state ownership would transition to statelessness.

Or you could just look at the definition of socialism "Workers own the means of production".

Capitalism would be where I am mining through software owned by a capitalist and a huge developer fee goes to them.  I guess nicehash would be a lite example.  Socialism would mean allowing all miners a chance to set the developer fee to zero.


Communism/Socialism/Marxism CAN NOT exist without the state. If people were contributing to the community voluntarily it would be called charity. For Communism/Socialism/Marxism to work, resources have to be taken BY FORCE, and this of course requires the state. Now certainly roving gangs of people could also do this, but then that would be the state, because they are in charge.

Disagree? Explain to me then how resources are collected politely by force under your stateless Communism.
6635  Economy / Reputation / Re: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? on: October 23, 2018, 07:30:22 AM
Unfortunately this shotgun type approach to leaving negative feedback is just designed to enhance the social status of the leaver by making it appear they are doing more, at the expense of simply uninformed users making simple mistakes. It happens constantly. The real problem is scammers will come back with a bought account in 30 seconds, people who made an honest mistake will just not return, leading to an increasingly scammer saturated environment.

These specific circumstances could go either way, I could see this just being an honest mistake. Often these higher ranking users have no respect for the time invested in creating a reputation and will default on destroying it rather than erring on the side of caution. After all to keep track of the user is an actual investment of time. Shotgunning negatives to make yourself look good is easy.
6636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kremlinbots on: October 22, 2018, 11:16:43 AM
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My entourage? What? I am American born and raised, and you are a loon.

If you read again you'll see that I didn't mean you personally.
Loon isn't the worse word people called me on the Internet.

Yes, I suppose your ambiguous statement was my fault. Really my goal wasn't to say the worst thing.
6637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Man man climate change on: October 22, 2018, 11:09:22 AM
How unhinged must you be to insist some one literally only asking for a source is trolling. Some times you make this too easy for me. You call it trolling, I call it showing the world your complete lack of logic or critical thought by asking simple questions, and repeatedly demonstrating your inability to answer them.

I've presented evidence, you're refusing to accept said evidence. You don't take any scientific evidence into account, you refuse to debate in good faith or honestly.

You're literally just trolling people to get reactions or to spread misinformation. I'm not quite sure at this point for you in particular. There's totally a list of state sponsored trolls, but you being part of the list is quite an interesting question.

It seems you like to attack climate change and refute any evidence that it exists. You don't refute there's evidence of it, but you refute all direct evidence of it, even when presented with said evidence.

I don't really see your objective? Maybe your life is so bad you actually feel good about yourself for making other people dumber? Like what's the point of acting like a retard?

I hope you know you're wrong, at least on the inside, because the world doesn't give a shit about your opinion or refusal to look at the evidence. The world is responding regardless of what you do to try to stop it.

If you have already produced it, it should not be hard to quote then right? Show me empirical data supporting the premise that global warming is a result of human C02 production. Not evidence of correlation, not simulations, not projections, not opinions, empirical data.
6638  Other / Politics & Society / Re: FBI agent’s text to lover: ‘We’ll stop’ Trump from becoming president on: October 22, 2018, 11:06:25 AM
TECSHARE and Spendulus seem to be part of the same propaganda and misinformation campaign. Kinda scary how they deny basic facts and try to link to a dozen unrelated stories to skew facts.  Roll Eyes

Turns out if you actually dig into this FBI agent's history, he's a good guy.

Well Mr. Bond, you seem to have figured out our little scheme. BTW where do you usually LARRP? It sounds like fun.

What "basic facts" am I denying exactly? You only wish the stories were unrelated, but they demonstrate a long history of corruption within the FBI regarding politically motivated spying based on illegal warrants funded by Hillary Clinton and the Democrat party. The stories are VERY related.

This whole Trump Russia narrative is right out of Rules For Radicals, accuse your opponents of the crimes you yourself are guilty of. This information was getting out for years, but no one would prosecute it because it was dangerous as a result of complicit higher ups who supported her.

Now all of their asses are on the line, and their last hope is to keep this charade on long enough to steal the midterms in some last ditch effort in a desperate hope to stay out of prison.
6639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: October 22, 2018, 10:58:17 AM
Go research each of the studies in that picture. Find the scientists that posted their research on climate change. Bam! There's your empirical data, or at least the methodologies on how the data was analyzed to get the information.

But nah, just gonna troll bitcointalk a bit more, aren't ya? Silly uneducated baboon. Wink

How about YOU go research it since YOU are making the claim, and the BURDEN OF PROOF is on YOU. Or, you know just pretend I am uneducated and play it off like I am just too dumb to look it up, not that you don't have any clue what you are even talking about. How do you expect to convince anyone of anything if you can't explain it yourself?

I presented proof, you refuse to accept it.

You're too dumb to understand the proof. But hey, no matter what evidence I present, you'll still stick your head in the sand like the buffoon you are. Wink

Tell me, what "proof" was that exactly? Please quote. I carefully reviewed all your posts and I saw no proof of anthropogenic climate change.
6640  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Man man climate change on: October 22, 2018, 10:55:30 AM
Source

Fuck off troll. You'll just say "fake news" or demand more evidence. After linking the research paper which covers pretty much every aspect, you'll link to some trash tier blog that disputes their claims. After that, you'll use false equivalence to compare my peer-reviewed source to your trash blog.

There's no point in playing your game. Do some actual fucking research regarding the issue rather than relying on everyone else to spoon feed you shit.

Jesus christ, pretty bad when you can't even use google to find basic fucking facts.

I swear, you literally exist to troll.

How unhinged must you be to insist some one literally only asking for a source is trolling. Some times you make this too easy for me. You call it trolling, I call it showing the world your complete lack of logic or critical thought by asking simple questions, and repeatedly demonstrating your inability to answer them.
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