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6701  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-11-05 Mashable - Bitcoin: How the Internet Created Its Own Currency on: November 06, 2012, 09:36:02 PM
What a boring article. I just didn't read it because it was so introductory.

I read it.

As far as Introductory pieces go this was of a very good standard, particularly compared with the FUD-filled, error-ridden offerings bitcoin has had in the past from other first-timers.

And the author knows her audience so has pitched it appropriately I expect. It is a good foundation to build a following upon, i.e. the truth.

These are exactly the kinds of articles that need to be making the rounds imho.
6702  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Church of Satoshi and Latter Day Coins on: November 06, 2012, 09:13:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClLbv1yisG4&feature=plcp

Enough "I believes .." in here to make the beginnings of good creed  Cheesy

All hail science and reason.
6703  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Church of Satoshi and Latter Day Coins on: November 06, 2012, 11:24:28 AM


Satoshi delivering the protocol ... notice much wailing and gnashing of bankster teeth in the background.
6704  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-10-21 Warren Mosler about Bitcoin on: November 06, 2012, 08:06:36 AM
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Or you can all continue to make fun of someone via pseudo-anonymous internet post that no one will see.

It is actually pretty effective, take a look around .... "no one will see" is misguided. Asymmetric information is all about getting it to the "right" people ... who cares if Mosler knows about Silk Road? If he can't find out for himself he's not doing the right kind of research and is probably a dinosaur from the old days where knowledge was found in libraries ... he talks like that.

His arrogant dismissal of the question deserves all the opprobrium that should come to him ... he's just not a good economist because his mind is closed shut, and he made that patently obvious in the space of less than 5 minutes. He is the worst kind of economist typical of the dismal science branch (i.e. not scientific in the slightest but politic to the full).
6705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ECB paper on Bitcoin and virtual currencies on: November 05, 2012, 10:02:13 AM
ECB will need to print trillions of euros to save Spain and Greece - of course they are afraid of crypto currencies that CANT be printed to infinity.

It's interesting how zerohedge says these are incomparably bigger problems for the ECB than bitcoin. I think they might blow up for them sooner than bitcoin, but it's entirely possible that these will be dwarfed by the problem bitcoin will create for the ECB and fiat currencies (mainly: death) and the greek and spanish bond market troubles might turn out to be mere footnotes in the history books.

Yes, this whole "ECB releasing a report on play money bitcoin" could go down in history as an epic example of literally ..... "fiddling while Rome burns"!
6706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [MARKETING]Get ZeroHedge to publish an article about Bitcoin on: November 04, 2012, 02:25:12 AM
The enemy of our enemy is our friend .... ECB bashing bitcoin just made us some valuable allies I think.
6707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation on: November 02, 2012, 07:42:50 PM
Foundation Members, check your emails.  Invites to the members-only BTC foundation forum have been sent out.

making the members-only BTC foundation forum read-only for non-members might be a good option to prevent the inevitable accusations of an insider elite taking control of bitcoin and other conspiracy theories.

The ship for "preventing" such accusations sailed a long time ago.  At this point, I want the foundation forums to stay totally private and secret just for spite.

Spitefull little chappy aren't we?
6708  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: November 01, 2012, 09:34:31 AM
The server has been updated to the latest Open Transactions code
Mark, OT server is a brilliant concept and fulfillment but is actually quite vulnerable to government attacks in different jurisdictions from legal and regulatory point of view. Have you ever thought of merging OT server with Electrum server project?

Yes, it has been thought of. There is also already a python OT API library.

Further, da2ce7 has some interesting ideas that will integrate server contract ID with bitcoin addresses themselves and via P2SH amybe able to piggy-back on to the bitcoin network's hash power to secure OT servers against attacks and malfeasance ... stay tuned.
6709  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Automatic Coin Mixing Idea on: November 01, 2012, 02:24:07 AM
It sounds like you'll never be convinced of your wrongness, so I'm not going to attempt it, except to point out that you have seem to be involved in some kind of self-justifying circular loop where all money has to be proven to be morally correct (like some kind of a reverse Mises regression theorem for the pureness of all money since time immemorable) ... good luck with that approach. Just think of all the slave/whore/drug trading that was done with the gold in Fort Knox that begot your 'pure' dollars ...

Keep your "pure" coins close ... they maybe the only ones left in the fullness of time, but then who would you trade them with?
6710  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ECB paper on Bitcoin and virtual currencies on: November 01, 2012, 02:11:28 AM
And you just know that the guy(gal(s?)) at the ECB who beavered away doing research for this report then quickly and quietly went about getting themselves a USBful of bitcoins anonymously ...  Cheesy

(just for research purposes of course!).

It's the powerful ideas that are the most corrosive to the old orders ... even the established actors just give up defending the status quo and move ahead eventually.

Notice that they never discussed the merits of centralised versus decentralised monetary systems based on a systems theoretic analysis ... cause that's where they lose.
6711  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Automatic Coin Mixing Idea on: October 31, 2012, 03:57:29 AM
another way to ruin any chance of getting bitcoin some clean legal rep' to go to mass market.

by making everyones coins dirty......

great for the druggies in the sort term. but not great for any expansion plans into real world markets. not great for bitinstant when every single coin they receive has taint. and banks stop dealing with them. causing all legitimate FIAT conversion services to disappear..

causing bitcoin to be harder to buy into or sell out of.

causing bitcoin to move back 2 years..

atleast think of the wider picture for the whole community and bitcoins future. not your own personal selfish desires to hide your drugg obtained funds.

all i can say is make ur own client and let the druggies swap between themselves and those that dont care about taint that have clean coins can join the mix only if they are given a good profit to outway the risk.. but in no way, shape, or form should this be adopted as a standard practice for all clients and all users of bitcoin.



You don't understand money. Hint: research fungibility.

Your wallet is full of cash that has been used for all sorts of nefarious activities ...  Cheesy ... feeling slimy yet?

Money is dirty. ... if you want to be pure give it all away to the poor and give your life to god.

Preaching about clean money is an oxymoron.
6712  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-10-30 The Economic Times (Reuters) - BTC Could Tarnish Central Banks' Image on: October 30, 2012, 10:37:57 PM
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The growth of virtual currencies could make criminal activity easier and lead the public to blame central banks for failing to prevent it, according to European Central Bank research.

Disregarding the fact that preventing criminal activity is not in ECB mandate, rather price stability (failed) and financial system functionality (failed) are .... the massive criminal activity in the financial sphere that they have been silent on like LIBOR rate riggings (and perhaps complicit with) seems to take a back seat in importance to bitcoin commentary ...  Cheesy
6713  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ECB paper on Bitcoin and virtual currencies on: October 30, 2012, 10:05:21 PM
Technomage

This paper has really got the community talking and thinking.

Are you following the debate over here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121186.msg1307004#msg1307004

I think this a great opportunity for us as a community to more clearly define our term for the general public, refine our position and make clear how we see bitcoin fitting into the fiat financial system.

I think the more clarity we bring to the discussion as a community NOW the less regulation we'll have imposed upon us when regulators catch up to figuring out what this bitcoin thing is all about.

My approach would be ... tell them nothing, let them do the leg work to figure it out.

Central Banks are past masters at keeping their servants (the public) in the dark and bull-shitting them for decades ..... what goes around, comes around.

Kind of surprised the ECB hasn't got it's too hands full with the massive cock-up they have wrought on the 400 million minions of Europe with the Euro centralised currency rort ... to be writing fluff pieces about virtual currencies threatening their system ... they seem a little panicked, like they are losing legitimacy.
6714  Bitcoin / Press / Re: EBay Cutting 325 Jobs in PayPal Division Restructuring Plan on: October 30, 2012, 04:13:03 AM
120 potential more bitcoin converts ... some of those ex-Paypal contractors will be good financial IT assets ... bitcoin is an equal opportunity 'employer'.

Welcome aboard.
6715  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Trading across chains on: October 30, 2012, 04:05:43 AM
My feeling on this is that this problem is better suited to Open Transactions and not blockchain manipulation.

Open transaction is really awesome project but "FellowTraveller" lost me on the "centeralized" part.

The OT servers doing the exchange do not have to be trusted, in fact they shouldn't be. You do not deal with a
single centralised server rather you are dealing with a federation of untrusted servers that are kept honest by a
web-of-trust model via an audit protocol based on voting pools (federations) of untrusted servers.
6716  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A thesis about Bitcoin on: October 30, 2012, 03:50:38 AM
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My thesis also tries on answer to question about economic utilization of Bitcoin:

- What kind of businesses have emerged around Bitcoin?
- In what ways is the Bitcoin utilized as a currency?
- Is it possible to use bitcoins beside fiat currencies or is Bitcoin more an introverted currency?

Some reading of your own, you know, like research, would answer these questions (not very much at all either).
6717  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind version 0.7.1 released on: October 29, 2012, 10:54:03 AM

Moved to main branch of distro. Now the package is here: http://www.openmamba.org/distribution/distromatic.html?tag=devel&pkg=bitcoin.i586
Every time it'll be updated and accepted in main branch the package will be put there

Ummm, in what way are your RPM's "The offical frontend for the bitcoin cryptocurrency" ??

And what guarantees, (sigs, etc) do you supply that you actually built these binaries from the "official" source?

I ask because you post this in the official announcement thread for latest version release.
6718  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-10-21 Warren Mosler about Bitcoin on: October 29, 2012, 01:38:08 AM
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No. It's an empirical question, and it's now been answered.  So I just don't get how anyone could still be hung up on this issue. 

As I said he's a theoretician of money not a practitioner.

Ask some self-made from nothing, super rich guy, not an economist, if you want to hear what a practitioner of money thinks.

6719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Automatic Coin Mixing Idea on: October 28, 2012, 03:23:47 AM
There is both an individual and a social incentive to want to mix, so I'd guess that many if not most users will select the "mix" option if it was offered.

For the individual:
Simple question, given the choice, ask yourself would you rather have a bank account that is totally private with no possibility of anyone gaining information about your financial transactions or another bank account that is maybe private, but has no guarantees against who your financial transaction behaviour maybe data-mined by?

For the bitcoin community:
If an option to "mix" coins was used nearly globally, bitcoin, the currency, achieves a higher level of fungibility and is thus worth more to the market creating added demand over other less fungible (e.g. traceable) digital currencies ... leading to a higher valuation for bitcoin, simply put.

These are very similar arguments to why holding wealth in bitcoin, that cannot be frozen, is better than holding a digital fiat currency that can be seized without notice or due process ... most people will never have to worry about such a seizure but if you give an individual the choice and point it out plainly they will chose the superior option, it is simple, rational behaviour to minimise risk to one's financial well-being, albeit that risk is small for most individuals. And these are the reasons why gold has prevailed over many centuries of attack by state monies with inferior qualities, seizure and privacy being two of the primary ones.
6720  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-10-27/[TV]ten-The Project/Silk Road on: October 28, 2012, 02:59:32 AM
Pretty fluffy piece ... the way the masses like their news these days by all accounts (could have thrown in reference to Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears, Charlie Sheen, etc something for a broader appeal).

What i did get a kick out of was the clip that come up on the scroll bar of related clips next to it ...  Cheesy seriously funny (i'm a matrix fan.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng0HsVkpFu4&feature=relmfu

Mr. Andresen!
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