^^^ Except that everybody uses gravity every day, but doesn't think about it because we all are familiar with it. But nobody knows that evolution theory evolution (ETE) exists, except that he might think that it does from being told by someone else. The Model T evolved into a large variety of cars and trucks. But not by ETE. A child evolves into an adult. But not by ETE. All kinds of changes in breeding are made to happen, but not by ETE. All the talk about ETE happening is just talk. There is no proof. We don't even know if it is possible... ... Or do you have some proof. If you do, please spend 2 or 3 brief sentences telling us if it is by DNA examination or what, and how it can tell us what happened over the last supposed 400,000 years of Earth history. Remember that I have asked you for this in other posts in other ways. But you haven't shown the proof or really even talked about it. If evolution is so definite as you seem to think, you should be able to provide us with definite examination processes, so that we all can examine the past, to see how the processes work together. Not just stories about how it must have happened. Real proof of how it did happen. Not guesswork that could be attributed to things other than ETE. Evolution is a hoax.  You think evolution is something that you turn off and on? It happens every day as well, but for complex organisms -- it is a slow process. And there you go again, denying that any proof was presented to you when it clearly was, multiple times by multiple people. On my end, there's the guppy experiment, dog breeds. Someone has mentioned cancer cells also showing an ability to evolve, viruses and bacteria are evolving just as any living creature is, we're just about to enter a post-antibiotic age because of that. The "examples" you used are nonsensical, whether you believe in it or not, evolution will keep happening. He is a denier, first asks for proof of species changing into other species, proof is shown, he denies it, then he simply goes back to his old roots, thats not evolution, he says, ask him what is the definition of evolution, he doesnt know |
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You guys are fucking idiots.  "satellite" REEEEEE says the guy who believes anything he reads, except real scientists, fuck those guys, better believe 2 no name scientists and youtube videos even though you have never done any of the experiments yourself |
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^^^ We talked about this in the God proof thread in the Off-Topic section. The simple answer that is obvious to everyone is the machine quality of the universe. Machines have makers. But if this weren't enough, there is more over in that thread. Your desire to remain ignorant of machines and machine-makers is astounding. It doesn't do you any good. And it only serves to uphold what is written in the Bible about your kind. So, thanks for helping to prove God and the Bible. It's easy for anyone to see why atheists hate religion. Right religion is organized looking for the truth. Atheism tends towards organized destruction... which actually makes it a wrong religion. Right religion will win, just as the appearance of the orderly universe is a fact. Such will be your ultimate destruction, rather than the destruction of the universe. But, you have a chance to turn to right religion. Do it now, while you still have time. Yep, as you said, machines have makers, so why are you so sure there is only 1 god and not multiple? Machines do have multiple makers don't they? |
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^^^ Blah, blah, blah. Water is supposed to seek its own level, too. But we need the Panama Canal because the water is a different height in the Gulf than it is in the Pacific. Yet, the waters all connect down the coast of South America around its southern tip. You might be able to find some other anomalies somewhere that change the horizon from the standard. But in general, there isn't any set horizon distance. It all depends on (besides anomalies) the height of the viewer's ey or the camera lens. You continue to blab about nothing, all the while trying to prove FE with it. Don't you realize that you are constantly shooting yourself in the foot? But if you missed, was it because you were pointing the gun 180 degrees in the opposite direction? There are many different reasons why people like you are in funny farms. 1. Launch a balloon with your own camera attached to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAifzh7_-cgWatch notbatman rage about fisheye lens or some other weird invented optical illusion that makes the earth appear as round. He refuses to test anything by himself. |
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^^^ The definition of creatures changing into other creatures is all over the whole evolution network. The point is evolution theory evolution in nature... the hundreds of thousands of years changes. We don't know that it happened. When we say that we do, while we know logically that we don't know, that's when we are turning the evolution idea into a hoax. Evolution is a hoax. I just showed you we do: https://www.islandconservation.org/galapagos-finch-speciation/https://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-speciation.htmlYou are unwilling to look at the dozens of examples we have RIGHT NOW of evolution happening, literally species changing into other species, what more do you want? |
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^^^ The term or idea of "the answers of life" is a very general thing. You have found some of them, haven't you? You do breathe, don't you? You drink water and eat food don't you? Do you do these things habitually, or habitually un-habitually... where you change your routine of breathing and eating on a regular basis? Since you are unwilling to even recognize the existence of God, how in the world can you begin to understand the fantastically wonderful Greatness He is? His moving of His people from this universe to Heaven, is removing them from the troubles and boredoms of this life, to a life of glory and joy. How does it work? Nobody knows, except that it is being done through the wonderful greatness that God is and does. Have you so forgotten the feelings of getting things new and fresh - like a new car, or a wonderful birthday present, or winning the lottery, or making a fortune in Bitcoin, or whatever good things that have happened to you in life - that you can't imagine what it would be like to be getting new and greater things forever, without the boredom? Worshiping God is what He made us for. And He is willing to reward us when we simply do what we were made for. GOD IS SO GREAT that worshiping Him advances us into the glory and greatness of what He is, even though it seems to take a long time for us to get there. But the advancement is in joy, so it is not only worth it, but it is desired. Wake up! You are placing yourself into a position where you are going to entirely miss the greatness, and the joy of becoming great. ''Since you are unwilling to even recognize the existence of God, how in the world can you begin to understand the fantastically wonderful Greatness He is? His moving of His people from this universe to Heaven, is removing them from the troubles and boredoms of this life, to a life of glory and joy. How does it work? Nobody knows, except that it is being done through the wonderful greatness that God is and does.'' Seems to be a rhetoric that repeats many times in the bible, how did god do this, nobody knows, how did god create the universe? Nobody knows. How will god prevent evil from happening in heaven? Nobody knows. Why do some children die earlier than others? Nobody knows. Do we know anything or are we just supposed to trust the book? |
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^^^ You pretty much seem to misunderstand what a beneficial mutation is. A beneficial mutation maintains and improves the status quo. A detrimental mutation tends toward the destruction of the organism. For example. In the simple evolution of the piston engine to the Wankel rotary, the shape of the engine would have to change in ways that would be entirely destructive to its operation. Mutations that would make this change are detrimental. Beneficial mutations would be those that strengthen the material of the piston engine, so that there would be less wear. In other words, beneficial mutations make the organism more like itself. Making an organism different than itself is detrimental mutation, and maybe a downright destructive mutation. Beneficial mutations don't change one creature into another. Rather, beneficial mutations make the creature into a stronger version of what the creature already is. They make it more of what it already is. Detrimental mutations do the opposite, and place an organism more into the position of death of the most unfit. Evolution theory evolution is entirely backwards and opposite of what really happens, and the most prominent evolution theorists completely know this. Evolution is a hoax. ''Beneficial mutations don't change one creature into another. Rather, beneficial mutations make the creature into a stronger version of what the creature already is. They make it more of what it already is. Detrimental mutations do the opposite, and place an organism more into the position of death of the most unfit.'' What's your definition of a creature changing into another creature? If dogs started evolving and had 5 legs instead of 4, lost their ears, got 2 tails, you would still think they are the same species of dog? Why do you consider a monkey a different creature than a dog, then? What's the difference? Is it because they can't reproduce with each other? If so, there are also plenty of examples of speciation: https://www.islandconservation.org/galapagos-finch-speciation/https://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-speciation.html |
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Added Bits-pays to the list!
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^^^ Since your language is this different from the standard, I don't really understand what you mean, and you won't understand this post. Is this your way of saying, I'm right? As usual, when out of arguments you simply try to ignore it, haha, no wonder you believe in stupid shit. 0 critical thinking. |
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^^^ All you are saying is that you found some answers to life, but you don't like them, mostly because you are unwilling to understand them. No all I said is this: ''Have you found the answers of life though? How do you know you will if you haven't?'' Which was a question since you claimed you can only find it through religion so I asked you if you did, clearly you didn't. Heaven is not a purpose or meaning, going to heaven to do what, what purpose, what meaning, doing the same shit that you do here but forever? Worshiping god forever? That's the purpose? |
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^^^ But that^ definition doesn't match Darwin. You can say that a gradual change in the manufacture of a car engine is evolution. And it is. But that isn't the kind of evolution that we are talking about in evolution theory evolution (ETE). Look at the car engine example. You can take the standard car engine and make it all different sizes and shapes. These changes might be called evolution after a fashion. But try evolving any one of them into the Wankel rotary, or the standard turbine, and you don't even have an idea of how to do this kind of a conversion... which is what ETE is trying to do in nature. Mankind can't imagine an evolution of the standard piston engine into a Wankel engine. What are the steps? This piston changes its shape a little and still works to run the engine? So why would anyone think that dumb nature is going to be able to convert a marine animal into humans after hundreds of thousands of years, when nobody can even envision the kinds of changes at the cellular level that would have to take place? In fact, because detrimental mutations are far greater in number than any mutations that might be considered beneficial, length of time would logically only serve to drown out beneficial mutations more with longer length of time. ETE is simply reversed logic that has been sci-fi-wise built up in the minds of low IQ people to look like it is logical. Darwin had a rough understanding of evolution since he was the first one to notice it, I don't know what you mean it doesn't match Darwin, doesn't match what in what way exactly? That's the definition of evolution today, read above, you have been proven wrong, admit it. ''In fact, because detrimental mutations are far greater in number than any mutations that might be considered beneficial'' I already debunked this several times. ''Most mutations are neutral. Nachman and Crowell estimate around 3 deleterious mutations out of 175 per generation in humans (2000). Of those that have significant effect, most are harmful, but the fraction which are beneficial is higher than usually though. An experiment with E. coli found that about 1 in 150 newly arising mutations and 1 in 10 functional mutations are beneficial (Perfeito et al. 2007).
The harmful mutations do not survive long, and the beneficial mutations survive much longer, so when you consider only surviving mutations, most are beneficial.
Beneficial mutations are commonly observed. They are common enough to be problems in the cases of antibiotic resistance in disease-causing organisms and pesticide resistance in agricultural pests (e.g., Newcomb et al. 1997; these are not merely selection of pre-existing variation.) They can be repeatedly observed in laboratory populations (Wichman et al. 1999). Other examples include the following:
Mutations have given bacteria the ability to degrade nylon (Prijambada et al. 1995).
Plant breeders have used mutation breeding to induce mutations and select the beneficial ones (FAO/IAEA 1977).
Certain mutations in humans confer resistance to AIDS (Dean et al. 1996; Sullivan et al. 2001) or to heart disease (Long 1994; Weisgraber et al. 1983).
A mutation in humans makes bones strong (Boyden et al. 2002).
Transposons are common, especially in plants, and help to provide beneficial diversity (Moffat 2000).
In vitro mutation and selection can be used to evolve substantially improved function of RNA molecules, such as a ribozyme (Wright and Joyce 1997).
Whether a mutation is beneficial or not depends on environment. A mutation that helps the organism in one circumstance could harm it in another. When the environment changes, variations that once were counteradaptive suddenly become favored. Since environments are constantly changing, variation helps populations survive, even if some of those variations do not do as well as others. When beneficial mutations occur in a changed environment, they generally sweep through the population rapidly (Elena et al. 1996).
High mutation rates are advantageous in some environments. Hypermutable strains of Pseudomonas aeruginosa are found more commonly in the lungs of cystic fibrosis patients, where antibiotics and other stresses increase selection pressure and variability, than in patients without cystic fibrosis (Oliver et al. 2000).
Note that the existence of any beneficial mutations is a falsification of the young-earth creationism model (Morris 1985, 13).'' |
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^^^ Cats Meowing Loudly -- https://youtu.be/wrdAEmNvEj4 *** RECOMMENDED VIDEO ****Dufour & Prunier conducted a replication of the Sagnac experiment that took rotating frames of reference into account thus, falsifying relativity and removing all objections to the static aether. You're dismissed. ref: "Georges Sagnac , born on October 14 , 1869 in Périgueux and died on February 26 , 1928 is a French physicist who left his name to the Sagnac effect , a phenomenon that is the basis of interferometers and gyrolasers developed from the late 1970s. He was also the discoverer of fluorescence. X" -- wiki"Alexandre Dufour is a French physicist who succeeded Georges Sagnac as lecturer in physics for the PCN certificate ( 1st year of medical studies) at the Faculty of Sciences of the University of Paris in September 1920. He obtained the title of professor without a chair on April 1 , 1927 , then was appointed full professor on October 1 , 1931 .
He was the inventor of the cathode oscillograph , which he described the process from 1914 1 , before publishing the detail of the device in 1920 2 ." -- wiki"Fernand Maurice Daniel Prunier is a French anti-relativist engineer, born on October 21, 1897 and died on September 21, 1971 1 , 2 ." -- wiki"Summary : In a first series of experiments, here accessories, but which nevertheless had to be realized, we used an entire optical circuit integral with the rotating platform as in the previous works of Sagnac. In these conditions we have found that the observed fringe displacements are the same to within 6%, that the light source and the photographic receiver are involved in the rotation of the platform, as in the Sagnac experiments, or that they remain fixed in the laboratory. The second series of experiments described here was intended to study the movement of the fringes due to rotation, under completely new conditions characterized by the fact that the optical circuit of the two superimposed interfering beams is formed of two parts in series, one of which remains fixed relative to the laboratory while the other is secured to the platform in rotation. The displacement of the fringes, obtained under these new conditions, has been that which can be foreseen by classical theory. In the case where the optical circuit is entirely integral with the rotating disk, as in the Sagnac experiments, the observer does not have the means to make a choice between the interpretations of the placement of the fringes obtained respectively given by the theory. classical and by relativistic theorists. But, in the case where there is a part of the circuit which remains fixed in relation to the laboratory, the relativistic theorist can not remain in agreement with the classical theorist, nor with the results observed, supposing, as he had done so far, here, that the center, where it is supposed to be placed to make the calculation of the experiment, can be chosen arbitrarily on the rotating platform. This center must be confused with the center of rotation of the platform." -- On a displacement of fringes recorded on a platform in uniform rotation, with Alexandre Dufour (1940)So why should we believe that exactly? Because it's written there? If I write: the relativistic theorist can remain in agreement with the classical theorist, would you believe it? Have you done the experiment yourself or are you trained enough to even understand the experiment? No you aren't, you read a summary on the internet that said something and you believed it, 0 critical thinking. |
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^^^ You are playing a dangerous scientific game. Scientifically even, claiming that science as we know it is god is going to get you slapped... so that you wake up to Who the real God is. I'm not the one making up scientific definitions and using unproven non-scientific theories in my arguments like you. ''Cause and effect'' ''no randomness'' ''free will but at the same time no free will'' ''outside the universe'' All invented garbage by you with 0 scientific evidence behind them. |
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The United States is currently headed by Donald Trump, who is very aggressive and right wing. China's president (Xi Jinping) is also a very aggressive man and he has taken quite a few hawkish steps regarding defense (South China sea dispute, North Korea.etc), trade and religion (crackdown on Muslims and Christians). Hopefully things will calm down once some Democrat wins the POTUS elections next year.
Well, I don't see him as that aggressive to be honest with you. He is certainly trying to have a better relationship with Russia and even North Korea. Obama might have seemed passive but he was pretty aggressive too when it came to war. |
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^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed. N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T. It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith. Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee. ''Acts 12:23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.'' ''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.'' God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused... However, it never talks about others doing any of the killing without God. And maybe even with Him. How is that? Because God is almighty. Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything. He has the right, because He is owner. You simply don't understand the gracious goodness of God. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg51050551#msg51050551. ''Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything.'' So it's god's fault then when people go to hell. ^^^ Again, you forgot the part that the loving God perfectly does what people ask. "Ask and it will be given you, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened to you." Stop being so ambiguous in your requests so that you will ask only for the things that you really want, and get them. It's God's doing when people go to Hell, by giving them what they asked for... absence of God holding them out of Hell. Just push Him a little more. Just a little further. He'll let go of you if you really want Him to. But don't doubt. Really want it, and really ask Him for it... and really enjoy the pain when you get it. An all loving god would not make hell in the first place, 5 year old would understand that. What's the purpose of hell? Torture people forever for... what? No point, senseless, only a retard would think that makes any sense. +1 People who wrote this mythology were retards by today's standard. Walked around with burlap around their neck, barefoot, wiped their ass with leaves, and hopped/praying for the Sun to come up the next day. People who these books were intended for were probably another 40 IQ points lower, slightly higher than chimpanzees. Yes and we don't blame them, they were ignorant, how wouldn't they be, however in 2019, how can anyone read the bible and think: hmm, yep this shit makes total sense. It's clearly just a fear of death that drives people to believe in something so stupid. |
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^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed. N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T. It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith. Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee. ''Acts 12:23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.'' ''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.'' God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused... However, it never talks about others doing any of the killing without God. And maybe even with Him. How is that? Because God is almighty. Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything. He has the right, because He is owner. You simply don't understand the gracious goodness of God. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg51050551#msg51050551. ''Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything.'' So it's god's fault then when people go to hell. ^^^ Again, you forgot the part that the loving God perfectly does what people ask. "Ask and it will be given you, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened to you." Stop being so ambiguous in your requests so that you will ask only for the things that you really want, and get them. It's God's doing when people go to Hell, by giving them what they asked for... absence of God holding them out of Hell. Just push Him a little more. Just a little further. He'll let go of you if you really want Him to. But don't doubt. Really want it, and really ask Him for it... and really enjoy the pain when you get it. An all loving god would not make hell in the first place, 5 year old would understand that. What's the purpose of hell? Torture people forever for... what? No point, senseless, only a retard would think that makes any sense. |
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^^^ You really don't get it, do you. Evolution doesn't happen to one animal. It doesn't happen to any animal. The evolution story happens to people, and the results of it in the minds of people happen to animals at times. But no evolution happens. The peppered moth was adaptation, without evolution theory evolution. It's the same moth with different coloring. It isn't a whole different kind of moth, or some other kind of bug. This isn't evolution theory evolution. It's adaptation evolution. There isn't any evolution theory evolution. I don't think you have been listening to what all the evolution scientists say. They say that animals change into other animals in evolution. They even say that some form of monkey/chimpanzee/gorilla changed into humans. How in the world dense are you that you support evolution but don't think that evolution has to do with changing of one animal or plant into another? All you are talking about is like when you changed from a child into an adult. Your evolution is simply stages in the life of a human. Humans don't change into other creatures. They are always humans. As humans they adapt to all kinds of human changes. Call the process of adaptation evolution if you want. But it is never evolution theory evolution, where humans change into some other kind of creature. Evolution is a hoax. ''The peppered moth was adaptation, without evolution theory evolution. It's the same moth with different coloring.'' That's evolution though. It's literally the definition of it: ''Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.[1][2] These characteristics are the expressions of genes that are passed on from parent to offspring during reproduction.'' The color (characteristics) changed and are passed over successive generations. |
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Religious people prefer to believe in a miracle instead of finding a reasonable explanation for something thats why I'm personally hate religion
So you believe in the fantasy that you can find out the answers to the deep meanings of life without religion? That's a hard-to-believe religion you have there. Have you found the answers of life though? How do you know you will if you haven't? |
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^^^ religion
[ ri-lij-uh n ]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
religions, Archaic .
7. religious rites: painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
Archaic .
8. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow. Notice that most of the definition have nothing to do with a supreme being... at least not directly. So, as usual, you have been proven wrong. Besides, what does this have to do with the idea of keeping quiet about your religious stuff? You certainly aren't keeping quiet about YOUR religious beliefs. 1. Not believing in silly science fiction books isn't about being concerned with what caused the universe and is also not a set of beliefs either. 2. Not believing in gods is not a set of beliefs, it's simply not accepting shit without evidence. 3. Same as 2 4... 5. same as 2 6. I don't believe it, I know it for a fact since evidence points towards it, your god doesn't exist as suggested by science, I also don't follow it devotedly, there is nothing to follow, I simply don't believe in it. 7. and 8. useless Again, not believing in gods is not a religion proven by definition. |
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^^^ Actually, America is the place where illegal and disgusting things seem to be tolerated because the government leaders have hired an abnormally high number of police. Guns among the populous should be increased in places that have high numbers of police. Actually, even by rate per 1 million: https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate-per-million-people america isn't close to the top. Sure a lot of shit happens in america and some measures are needed but I can assure you it's not because of police LOL, I know you think they are bad because you don't know how to look at statistics but it's actually the black population that does most of the killing in America. |
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