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701  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 20, 2013, 01:00:42 AM
@ JohnK and fpgaminer

I am willing to provide JohnK with my identity with the following proof:

1. A scan of my driver's license.
2. A picture of me holding and showing my driver's license.
3. And if needed I can record myself with my driver's license so no suspicion of photoshop etc.

When I started this group buy I did not expect any drama at all. My #1 goal for this group buy right now is to redeem myself from the past. Again I did not scam anyone it was a misunderstanding but looking back at what has happened I do realized that I did make a mistake. So I would like to follow through with this group buy towards a path of redemption. When you are on the internet, apparently nothing you cannot hide anything Smiley

Without further a due we will start sending BTC to the escrow's address when we hit ~600 BTC.

JohnK let me know what and how I need to sign to get rid of any possible discrepancy. Thanks.

Put me down for 5 BTC. I may increase that stake later.

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I'm in for 2.028 BTC. (26 chips) Please add me to the list.

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702  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 19, 2013, 07:56:12 PM
Here's the updated fees guys:

The total before fees is 782.1 BTC

JohnK's fee: 1.5% or 11.7315 BTC
My fee: 1.0% or 7.821 BTC

- I also added another column in the spread sheet: BTC Need to send to Escrow.

Obviously in this column, it is the exact amount in which you need to send to JohnK.

My fee: 1.0% or 7.821 BTC will also be sent to Escrow's address and will stay there until I start shipping and giving out tracking info!
703  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 19, 2013, 07:42:06 PM
I would like 20 chips for me. Is it possible or "no time left"?

you're still fine. Please put contribution in BTC only not chips
I can send my contribution on Monday. Please keep my place in order list.
TIA

added you for 1.5 BTC

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5wT_NTrV00dFhHY2NoOXpvSnVMbDVWUmFaSTVjTmc#gid=0

ragingazn628 please increase my amount to 2.028 so that I get an even 26 chips.

thanks for putting this all together!

-a[g


Done.
704  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 19, 2013, 03:36:03 PM
I confirm that I have been asked to escrow this, and will generate an escrow contract (with the address) when I get my escrow laptop out from the safe in approx. 7 hours.

Ok sounds great! I would like it done this way:

1. When there's enough BTC in the pool people will send to JohnK's address. JohnK will hold my 1% until I start shipping the chips and providing people with tracking information.
2. JohnK will order the chips via Avalon
3. JohnK will put the shipping address to my location and provide me with tracking information.
4. I will ship the chips individually to contributors based on when they pledged their BTC. (You will be required for any additional individual shipping costs)
5. OPTIONAL - I have been looking into building the PCB boards for these chips and have contacted some local engineers about this and we are pretty sure that we can build one once Avalon releases their schematics. So if you want I can build for you at additional costs for the parts and labor. But this is just for future planning purposes. Nothing is set in stone yet.
705  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 19, 2013, 03:30:27 PM
I would like 20 chips for me. Is it possible or "no time left"?

you're still fine. Please put contribution in BTC only not chips
706  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 19, 2013, 03:26:28 PM
Hi. Can you please update my order to 3.17 btc? This should be 40 chips, if I'm not mistaken.

I updated it to 3BTC - no weird decimals please ;p


I may have missed it, but has JohnK agreed to act as our agent?

Being new to this community I don't know anybody, so I'm relying on other people for trust, particularly people chipping in a lot more than I am!

I just received his message:

Hello,

We would like assistance escrow with a group buy here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0

We would like to pay you 1% fees for the trouble. Thank you!
Yes, I can do so. I'm looking for 1.5% here since that is the fee I promised for another similar group buy deal, and that I will be using a pre generated Offline Armory for this. How many addresses will you need?

Thanks,
John

Oh, one other thing, is Avalon doing any number of chips between 10k and 200k, or is it only in multiples of 10k? Eg, we get enough in the group for 15k chips, will they do that?

I think it's 10k max per order.
707  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com and Ed trice on: April 19, 2013, 02:39:40 PM
Check this out guys

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/special_offers.shtml

stole pictures and videos from:

http://www.pcgamer.com/forum/showpost.php?s=75053f899c00d3a037736114a348edc1&p=188432&postcount=377
708  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 19, 2013, 02:27:31 PM
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But our situation is different because we have myself, the pool of contributor, escrow, and Avalon.
Yeah, that's why I pointed out that an escrow service isn't going to provide the same kind of protection in this case.  The only thing John would be able to provide, is ensuring that the chips get ordered; he can't really protect them after that.

If you personally had 780BTC, you could give that to John as collateral, but I don't know anyone who would be crazy enough to lock away 780BTC for a few months. Tongue

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Check out the spreadsheet to make sure I didn't miss your name from the list please.
Please put me down for 46.926 BTC for 600 chips, + however much is needed for fees (currently 2%).

EDIT: Oh, and thank you for taking the time to put all of this together.

Thanks! I added another column to show how many chips people are getting (Realistically rounding down because you can't have 3/4 a chip lol). I added you for 47 BTC so you will be getting 602 chips! Just makes math and other things easier a bit.

I went ahead and put in the really long number for the spread sheet too 12.820512820512820512820512820513 CHIPS PER BTC!

So please everyone contribute in BTC and not in how many chips you want Smiley

I got 12.820512820512820512820512820513 from 10,000 divided by 780 BTC - for shipping and fees I will make it separate later once the 780 is reached.

For example I will be putting in 17BTC so I will make another column in the spreadsheet to tell you how much you will be sending to JohnK.

( 17 + (2.1 / # of people contributing for shipping) ) * 1.02
This way it is a lot more accurate so if you want in just in the number of BTC - no weird decimals though please - .25 / .5 etc. is fine.

Interested in 100~126 chips. What's next step ?

I put you down for 8 BTC - you will be getting 102 chips. Look in the spreadsheet for calculations.

Hmm.. wait a sec. I'm willing to buy 360 chips.

782.1/10,000=0.07821 btc each

360*0.07821=28.1556

28.1556*1,02(fees)=28.718712 BTC

So I have to correct my order to 28.718712 BTC (shipping excl.)

Am I right?

I put you down for 30BTC which yields 384 chips!

Good with that... just make sure to keep us all updated on shipping via email.

Thanks for checking out JohnK... have lots of trust in this escrow choice!

We are putting faith in the OP... but I like at least being sure the BTC is paying for the chips. Harder to sell off 10K worth of chips than convert 700+ BTC to cash... partial protection at least.

So looking forward to this!

Maybe part of your 1% OP is kept by John until proof of shipment? Not all but some we know you should get something to cover all the time and effort. Thanks again!




Yes good idea. JohnK can keep my 1% until people start getting their tracking info.

I'm in with 5BTC.

looking forward to this. thanks for helping.

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AGAIN PLEASE NOTE:

I will use this formula to calculate the total BTC that you will be sending to JohnK:


( [# of BTC Contributing to Pool] + (2.1 / [# of people contributing for shipping]) ) * [JohnK + OP Fees]
709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anybody mining Freicoins? on: April 19, 2013, 03:46:58 AM
i mined about 10,000 the other day -  so yeah weeeeee

did you mine before or after they started taking 80%?
I was looking into starting to mine Freicoins but when I saw they take 80% that rapidly slowed down my enthusiasm

who takes 80%?
710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][Pool][PPLNS] WeMineLTC.com | 0% FEES! | Stratum | DDoS Protection |!! on: April 19, 2013, 03:46:22 AM
Why does it say...

Your Current Hashrate
0 KH/s

Huh My miners are RUNNING!
711  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 19, 2013, 03:43:00 AM
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How does that sound? NO BTC WILL BE GOING TO ME. Only 1 person sent me BTC so far and he will be refunded.
I'm not sure why an escrow party would agree to a deal like this.  There's no way for an escrow party to protect against failure to ship the chips once they are received.  It's not like the escrow party can give people their money back, once Avalon has been paid.

That said, I'm interested in ~50BTC worth (rounded out to 600 or 700 chips).  I'll watch this thread to see how the escrow stuff works out.

Question: BitSyncom stated that they would be willing to ship out early samples, for prototyping.  He did not mention how many samples.  If, for example, Avalon can provide 5 sample chips, would you be willing to relay those to the top 5 buyers or something like that?

Yup if 5 are mailed out top 5 contributor would get them. Make sense.

I've never used an escrow before but I believe it works like this.

A wants to sell B something.
B sends BTC to escrow.
Escrow holds BTC until item arrives to B.
Item arrives.
Escrow sends A BTC.

Everyone is happy.

But our situation is different because we have myself, the pool of contributor, escrow, and Avalon.

A + Pool send BTC to Escrow.
Escrow buys item from Avalon
Escrow ships to A.
A ships to Pool

Check out the spreadsheet to make sure I didn't miss your name from the list please.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5wT_NTrV00dFhHY2NoOXpvSnVMbDVWUmFaSTVjTmc#gid=0
712  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 19, 2013, 03:31:08 AM
I'm interested in participating for 5 BTC if it still is possible.

Added.

Ok I made a googledocs spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5wT_NTrV00dFhHY2NoOXpvSnVMbDVWUmFaSTVjTmc#gid=0

We are officially at 501 w/o the pending funds. Just waiting on ryanfromrethink to respond so we have about ~300 more to go!
713  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 19, 2013, 03:17:00 AM
Is there a timeline on when you plan to order?  I might be in, but have to talk to some people/get the BTC.

Well the biggest pending we have is for 390BTC let's see if he is committed I'm still waiting on him to confirm in the thread at this point.

Ragingazn628 have you made any progress on setting up escrow or taking payments?  Zefir claims he thinks he has almost enough to make a 2nd order.

Like I said I'm up for an escrow but as someone pointed out I'm not sure how it would work in this situation since I will be ordering from Avalon using the pool's BTC.

Talk with JohnK - AKA Johnthedong... I think he'd be the BEST escrow guy we have here in Bitcointalk and he would definitely be able to work this out for all of us. I suggest he is given a small percentage to take on this though as he runs on donations. Everyone could I suppose add a small % of their buy to the chip order to cover his pain and suffering and worry. He knows his shit and I think most if not everyone who has done escrow through him is happy.  This can be voluntary but we should really all should chip in what we think this service is worth. I do not think 1-3% is unreasonable for the peace of mind JohnK provides for his service.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141672.0

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PS: Everyone's been asking about the fees and appropriate tips for this service. I appreciate a tip for the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins, and the time taken to facilitate every transaction. I do not have a fixed fee, but generally I receive 1-3% of the amount transacted, especially when a TX takes more than a few weeks.
- JohnK (As quoted in the thread above)

Ok here's what I propose. I will contact JohnK and have him do the escrow.

Steps:

1. We will all send him BTC to a designated address. (1-3% fees for his troubles)
2. He will order Avalon ASICs chips for us.
3. I will give JohnK my address so the chips will be shipped to me.
4. I will handle the shipment to participants and will make it my #1 priority (1% for my troubles organizing and shipping / gas to drive / time etc.)

How does that sound? NO BTC WILL BE GOING TO ME. Only 1 person sent me BTC so far and he will be refunded.

If everyone agrees with this method let's get these chips pre-ordered!

People who are interested: UPDATED!
  • 17 BTC - Me
  • 4 BTC - rttnpig
  • 1  BTC -Luckybit - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 5 BTC - dmo580 - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 2 BTC - dazzle - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 3 BTC - rammy2k2
  • 40 BTC - Rallye
  • 10 BTC - GodFader
  • 2BTC - goodney
  • 2 BTC - eghoff
  • 20 BTC - freeworm
  • 390 BTC - ryanfromrethink - PENDING
  • 3 BTC - qbits
  • 10 BTC - cubism4nerds
  • 39 BTC - strombom
  • 10 BTC - pcosias
  • 3 BTC - DPoS
  • 2 BTC - salt
  • 1.5 BTC - Todamont
  • 2 BTC - perseus
  • 1 BTC - sun
  • 20 BTC - alexuk
  • 3 BTC - Enigma81
  • 12 BTC - alexcamp
  • 20 BTC - Bicknellski
  • 4 BTC - daemondazz
  • 50 BTC - Immuzikation
  • 23.5 BTC - atcsecure
  • 100 BTC - AnonF141
  • 5 BTC - Wesly
  • 2 BTC - rideelement247
  • 26 BTC - Egon   
  • 1 BTC - samurai1200
  • 2 BTC - nabworth
  • 2 BTC - darkjed
  • 20 BTC - spinner
  • 4 BTC - erschiessen
  • 2 BTC - Doomsby
  • 30 BTC - ElJay

Total:
888/782.1 BTC
714  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 18, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
Is it still possible to get into this pool. I'm a small fish, but I'm interested in 2 btc worth of chips

yes because 390 is still PENDING. No replies from him yet.
715  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 18, 2013, 09:32:14 PM
I'm willing to act as holder of coins for this transaction, or even to do shipping. I run Cryptospora.net and my identity is not hidden.

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."

Theft is against my religion, and I take it pretty seriously...


lol really.

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The best option I would give so that everyone would have a piece of mind would be PMing those who are contributing 10+ BTC a scan of my Driver's License but other than that it's up to the group to whether or not they will trust me or not.

People who are interested:
  • 17 BTC - Me
  • 10 BTC - rttnpig - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 1  BTC -Luckybit - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 5 BTC - dmo580 - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 2 BTC - dazzle - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 3 BTC - rammy2k2
  • 40 BTC - Rallye - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 2 BTC - haaning - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 10 BTC - GodFader
  • 2BTC - goodney
  • 2 BTC - eghoff
  • 20 BTC - freeworm
  • 390 BTC - ryanfromrethink - PENDING
  • 3 BTC - qbits
  • 10 BTC - cubism4nerds
  • 39 BTC - strombom
  • 10 BTC - pcosias
  • 3 BTC - DPoS
  • 2 BTC - salt
  • 1.5 BTC - Todamont
  • 2 BTC - perseus
  • 1 BTC - sun
  • 20 BTC - alexuk
  • 3 BTC - Enigma81
  • 12 BTC - alexcamp
  • 20 BTC - Bicknellski
  • 4 BTC - daemondazz
  • 50 BTC - Immuzikation
  • 23.5 BTC - atcsecure
  • 100 BTC - AnonF141
  • 5 BTC - Wesly
  • 2 BTC - rideelement247
  • 26 BTC - Egon   
  • 1 BTC - samurai1200

Total:
842/782.1 BTC
716  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 18, 2013, 08:30:06 PM
Is there a timeline on when you plan to order?  I might be in, but have to talk to some people/get the BTC.

Well the biggest pending we have is for 390BTC let's see if he is committed I'm still waiting on him to confirm in the thread at this point.

Ragingazn628 have you made any progress on setting up escrow or taking payments?  Zefir claims he thinks he has almost enough to make a 2nd order.

Like I said I'm up for an escrow but as someone pointed out I'm not sure how it would work in this situation since I will be ordering from Avalon using the pool's BTC.
717  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 841 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 18, 2013, 05:03:04 PM
if you do not have a single clue on what to do with the chip better consider buying a complete set..

yeah this is for engineers or people who knows how to follow the DIY guide and put together a system. I already have a few local guys lined up to tackle this. I will let everyone know the progress and if they would like their chips assembled once they arrived and I have some sort of prototype ready. But that's all in the future just planning ahead for now.
718  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 555 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 18, 2013, 04:49:52 PM
Yes we can use an escrow.

I guess we would have to send our coins to you first so that you then can buy the chips once you have collected all 782.1 bitcoins.
I'm not sure how an escrow could work here, could you give some details on that?

I really have no idea I've never even used an escrow before. I'm just trying to give what the crowd wants. We can use John K just let me know how guys!

Just tell me what you want to do. Again I do have a little past history but it was a misunderstanding. I didn't scam anyone.

I have good feedbacks on Overclock.net as well...

http://www.overclock.net/classifieds/feedback/index/user_id/154962

I'm not out there to make people's lives a living hell.

We have past the thresh hold. Let's get this thing pre-ordered by the end of the day! Smiley

People who are interested:
  • 17 BTC - Me
  • 10 BTC - rttnpig - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 1  BTC -Luckybit - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 5 BTC - dmo580 - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 2 BTC - dazzle - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 3 BTC - rammy2k2
  • 40 BTC - Rallye - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 2 BTC - haaning - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 10 BTC - GodFader
  • 2BTC - goodney
  • 2 BTC - eghoff
  • 20 BTC - freeworm
  • 390 BTC - ryanfromrethink - PENDING
  • 3 BTC - qbits
  • 10 BTC - cubism4nerds
  • 39 BTC - strombom
  • 10 BTC - pcosias
  • 3 BTC - DPoS
  • 2 BTC - salt
  • 1.5 BTC - Todamont
  • 2 BTC - perseus
  • 1 BTC - sun
  • 20 BTC - alexuk
  • 3 BTC - Enigma81
  • 12 BTC - alexcamp
  • 20 BTC - Bicknellski
  • 4 BTC - daemondazz
  • 50 BTC - Immuzikation
  • 23.5 BTC - atcsecure
  • 100 BTC - AnonF141
  • 5 BTC - Wesly
  • 2 BTC - rideelement247
  • 26 BTC - Egon   

Total:
841/782.1 BTC
719  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 555 / 782.1 BTC Pledged! on: April 18, 2013, 03:38:57 PM
Sorry guys I've been busy with RL stuff. Yes we can use an escrow. Yeah the heatware stuff was a misunderstanding. I didn't scam anyone. And as for eBay I just said fuck it and neglected it ;/ - I definitely took my losses though. Lesson learned.

Here's the update:

People who are interested:
  • 17 BTC - Me
  • 10 BTC - rttnpig - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 1  BTC -Luckybit - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 5 BTC - dmo580 - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 2 BTC - dazzle - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 3 BTC - rammy2k2
  • 40 BTC - Rallye - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 2 BTC - haaning - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 10 BTC - GodFader
  • 2BTC - goodney
  • 1 BTC - eghoff
  • 20 BTC - freeworm
  • 390 BTC - ryanfromrethink - PENDING
  • 3 BTC - qbits
  • 10 BTC - cubism4nerds
  • 39 BTC - strombom
  • 10 BTC - pcosias
  • 3 BTC - DPoS
  • 2 BTC - salt
  • 1.5 BTC - Todamont
  • 2 BTC - perseus
  • 1 BTC - sun
  • 20 BTC - alexuk
  • 3 BTC - Enigma81
  • 12 BTC - alexcamp
  • 20 BTC - Bicknellski
  • 4 BTC - daemondazz

Total:
633.5/782.1 BTC
720  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! on: April 17, 2013, 12:32:29 PM
Added you guys!

We are really close guys! Once the 390BTC order is confirmed I will give out the address for everyone to send BTC to!

People who are interested:
  • 17 BTC - Me
  • 10 BTC - rttnpig - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 1  BTC -Luckybit - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 5 BTC - dmo580 - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 2 BTC - dazzle - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 3 BTC - rammy2k2
  • 40 BTC - Rallye - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 2 BTC - haaning - PM'd to see if interested in Chips
  • 10 BTC - GodFader
  • 2BTC - goodney
  • 1 BTC - eghoff
  • 20 BTC - freeworm
  • 390 BTC - ryanfromrethink - PENDING
  • 3 BTC - qbits
  • 10 BTC - cubism4nerds
  • 39 BTC - strombom

Total:
555/782.1 BTC
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