retard topic
Retarded topic you mean. I actually agree with you... did hell just freeze over? |
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I can google does that mean I have an 148 IQ and will get accepted to MIT next year?
En masse... sacre bleu.
You had to look up things I know and can recite. I have knowledge you do not, yet this is not intelligence. I (like PL) was trying to think of an english word for his 'puzzle'. Just because I am bad at puzzles, does nto make me stupid. Intelligence is such a nebulous word. People equate it with a knowledge of all things, which sadly it is not. IQ is even worse. It is a score received on a standardized test. Since the test encompasses many things such as logic, literary understanding, visual acuity and more, scoring high really means nothing other than to show that you retained information you had received in the past and were able to perform logic. Ever watch the show Unforgettable? Does having an infallible memory make you intelligent? Does it impart knowledge to you that you have never run across before? Can you describe thigns you have never seen? Once again, *I* am secure in who *I* am, you seem to have a need to belittle what you do not understand. |
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lol. Just a second ago you told me there is a difference between the words fraud and lie. Now you can't give me a simple two word term that is French in origin and means to ship "in a mass; as a group", is that correct?
I am not french, your definition sparks nothing in my memory. How can I know shomething if I cannot remember having heard it? Does IQ = Omnipotence? Its a puzzle, it requires little thought. (Thats where the IQ part comes in.) Someone with a high IQ and having attended MIT should have been able to operate "the googles on the interwebs". http://lmgtfy.com/?q=en+masseit always amazes me the number of people who equate IQ with Knowledge. A walking dictionary I am not. While I could have looked it up, that wasn't part of the exercise. I was asked for knowledge. I did not have that as ready knowledge. Your purile tauntings show your lack of knowledge on this subject. In other words, you have never heard of the term 'en masse' in your lifetime. I figured it out in the first few seconds but then thought he might be looking for an english term (which honestly stumped me). As soon as he defined it as french...that pretty much made it point blank obvious. It was a puzzle. I have heard the term EN MASSE, yes. His description though did not spark that recollection. @Viceroy: It's too bad you are not knowledgable to pick up on the fallacy of your statement. Obviously you asked Josh a similar question and he answered it. If I am Josh, then why did I not know the answer? |
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When you decide to buy an ASIC miner you are deciding to buy a variable stream of BTC. If one can estimate the total expected BTC, then one can price that BTC and compare it to buying BTC off an exchange. If you can get the BTC off an exchange for a lot less, then the miner will not yield good investment returns compared to just buying BTC.
This is the common fallacy of your argument. Instead of buying a BTC miner you should buy BTC. A large percentage of the people looking to buy a BTC miner would never have the patience to *buy* BTC and hold onto it. While I have traded on an exchange and lost BTC, I have more now than if I had never used the exchange. Having never spent a single BTC, I fall into the group of long term investors that would be better off buying BTC than buying a miner. That said, there is something to owning the miner, seeing the trickle of coins coming into your wallet. Buying BTC is like buying stock... you cheer with every upward swing and curse at every downward tumble. While solo mining is unlikely to pay off, you could always hit the lottery and find a block. Hey! Forget buying BTC or Miners! BUY LOTTERY TICKETS! It's all relative. If you are able to buy BTC and walk away for years, your BTC argument works great. If you are not... |
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lol. Just a second ago you told me there is a difference between the words fraud and lie. Now you can't give me a simple two word term that is French in origin and means to ship "in a mass; as a group", is that correct?
I am not french, your definition sparks nothing in my memory. How can I know shomething if I cannot remember having heard it? Does IQ = Omnipotence? Its a puzzle, it requires little thought. (Thats where the IQ part comes in.) Someone with a high IQ and having attended MIT should have been able to operate "the googles on the interwebs". http://lmgtfy.com/?q=en+masseit always amazes me the number of people who equate IQ with Knowledge. A walking dictionary I am not. While I could have looked it up, that wasn't part of the exercise. I was asked for knowledge. I did not have that as ready knowledge. Your purile tauntings show your lack of knowledge on this subject. |
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lol. Just a second ago you told me there is a difference between the words fraud and lie. Now you can't give me a simple two word term that is French in origin and means to ship "in a mass; as a group", is that correct?
Here, I'll make it easier....
Two words meaning to ship "in a mass; as a group". French origin. First word "en".
____ ________
revealing the first blank gets us:
en _________
What is the word in the blank, bcp?
mass |
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lol. Just a second ago you told me there is a difference between the words fraud and lie. Now you can't give me a simple two word term that is French in origin and means to ship "in a mass; as a group", is that correct?
Can you tell me how to tune a hetrodyne receiver? Can you tell me why a inductive capacatance circuit is bad? Do you know what hysteresis loss is? |
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lol. Just a second ago you told me there is a difference between the words fraud and lie. Now you can't give me a simple two word term that is French in origin and means to ship "in a mass; as a group", is that correct?
I am not french, your definition sparks nothing in my memory. How can I know shomething if I cannot remember having heard it? Does IQ = Omnipotence? |
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Pretty much no one is going to make a profit on most other miners either. If/when they get it.
So you're saying that if you had $39 in your pocket, and you converted it into BTC and purchased a miner with it.. you mine it for a year or two, and you will never get your $39 back? What if a BTC suddenly climbs to $10,000 in a couple of years.. and this only generated 0.2 BTC at that time (a net BTC loss), you would still have $2000? If these can make 0.01 BTC in 3-4 days, who's to say that 0.01 BTC isn't worth >$40 soon? People purchase these for different reasons. I have many of these purring away right now and I have already earned over 20-30% of their cost. If at the end of the year they have only earned 60% that's okay with me. It's better than pre-ordering a BFL and a year later it hasn't arrived, at least with these you can do your profit calculations knowing that it will be in your hand in a day or so. These make an excellent choice for first-timers of Bitcoin particularly, even though holding BTC is an even better way to guarantee profits. There is also the PPCoin angle. If you point yours at PP, there is a chance that by the end of the year the PPCoin hashrate skyrockets and block reward plummets, and you could convert your PP into BTC at a profit. *Who knows* what will happen in this crypto world, and what the best choices are, but don't hate on the USB miner because they are "outrageously" priced at 0.39 BTC! I remember paying 40 BTC for a 5870 not long ago. If you want a miner, buy one, if not, keep it to yourself!  You forget, these are the people who claim that buying a BTC miner is the SAME as buying BTC. Therefore, you NEED to be able to get your BTC back or you you have failed. |
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Oh come on, is that the best you got mr 148 IQ?
Intelligence has nothing to do with knowledge. I know nothing about fashion, I don't know how to rebuild a car engine, I don't know how to refine crude oil into gasoline, I don't know how to fly a helicopter. BUT, I could learn if I wanted to. |
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This is an intentional screw to the greedy customer too dumb to realiae it. If BFL was as shady as ASICMiner, it would have sold units on e-bay 2 months ago for $100k+ instead of shipping to their customers, claiming "Oh, look, our first customers are selling!".
No, they couldn't sell them on Ebay because the merchandise must exist before Ebay will let you sell them. ASICMiner can sell you an overpriced product because all BFL can do is sell promises, they can't keep them. KNC and Bitfury might provide some competition. BFL never will. 2 months ago it did. 18 jun the first 3 mini's were shipped. Oh, you mean the gigavps units? They penned a deal with giga that he would get his mini-rigs before anyone else. Beta customer or some such. That would have blown up in their face. However, this was reported: http://bflfraud.com/Ah, yes, everyone who starts out: "I’m not going to tell you a pack of lies. I’m just going to tell you how it is. " Is always 100% reputable. Besides, Jun 20 1 mini shipped Jun 21 1 mini shipped Jun 22 mini shipping continues (they stopped giving numbers) But hey, they MUST have been lying about those. Link to your source for that information? Wow, you forgot how to access the BFL blogs? |
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Hey bcp I have a riddle for you....
What do you call it when a company starts shipping alot of product?
I'm looking for a term that describes "in a mass; as a group"
Can you tell me that two word phrase? I'm betting you cannot because you never made it into MIT. So let's see.... what phrase am I looking for?
(Please, nobody help him).....
I fail to see your point, I was working in Computer Science not corporate shipping. I can't play a piano either. |
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Read it again. The courts will look at the beneficiary of the lie. I do not need to prove it, it is patently clear that BFL benefits by it's officers public lie. This is a cut and dried case of fraud.
I see, how much are you paying your lawyer? |
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This is an intentional screw to the greedy customer too dumb to realiae it. If BFL was as shady as ASICMiner, it would have sold units on e-bay 2 months ago for $100k+ instead of shipping to their customers, claiming "Oh, look, our first customers are selling!".
No, they couldn't sell them on Ebay because the merchandise must exist before Ebay will let you sell them. ASICMiner can sell you an overpriced product because all BFL can do is sell promises, they can't keep them. KNC and Bitfury might provide some competition. BFL never will. 2 months ago it did. 18 jun the first 3 mini's were shipped. Oh, you mean the gigavps units? They penned a deal with giga that he would get his mini-rigs before anyone else. Beta customer or some such. That would have blown up in their face. However, this was reported: http://bflfraud.com/Ah, yes, everyone who starts out: "I’m not going to tell you a pack of lies. I’m just going to tell you how it is. " Is always 100% reputable. Besides, Jun 20 1 mini shipped Jun 21 1 mini shipped Jun 22 mini shipping continues (they stopped giving numbers) But hey, they MUST have been lying about those. |
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from the article: The second part is about the liar's intention. A lie that you don't mean anyone to take seriously, such as a joke or hyperbole, wouldn't constitute fraud.
When it comes to proving intent for fraud, courts often look at what the liar could gain if someone believes the lie. If the liar benefits from someone believing and acting on the lie, that tends to show intent. Clearly the courts will be looking at the benefit to BFL caused by Josh's continued lie of "two weeks". I don't need to prove anything but I'm sure the prosecutor who takes the case will find plenty of people who will state "Josh lied for the benefit of BFL". So you have no proof. |
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This is an intentional screw to the greedy customer too dumb to realiae it. If BFL was as shady as ASICMiner, it would have sold units on e-bay 2 months ago for $100k+ instead of shipping to their customers, claiming "Oh, look, our first customers are selling!".
No, they couldn't sell them on Ebay because the merchandise must exist before Ebay will let you sell them. ASICMiner can sell you an overpriced product because all BFL can do is sell promises, they can't keep them. KNC and Bitfury might provide some competition. BFL never will. 2 months ago it did. 18 jun the first 3 mini's were shipped. |
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Oh so you are saying that an officer of the company saying a product will be delivered in two weeks for months on end is... not intentionally misleading his customers?
If his supplier is telling him 2 weeks and he turns around and tells customers 2 weeks, yes. Do you have proof something else happened? |
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Firmware updates?
Sorry, there are only software updates... did you want the coffee software, the tea software or the juice software? |
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If you truly believe you're telling the truth and end up being wrong, that doesn't qualify.
Yep. Too bad for BFL they SHOULD have known... as officers of the company... that they could not possibly be delivering anything in "two weeks". That doesn't excuse willful denial or ignorance of the truth. If you should have known the truth or could easily have discovered it before telling the lie, it could still be a problem. So you get it now, congratulations on recognizing the criminal element at work within BFL! There is a long way between should and did. Using your definition people SHOULD have known BFL would be late due to their past record, therefore they DID know and ordered anyway and now are willfully denying they knew. |
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The first part means that fraud must involve an intentional lie. If you truly believe you're telling the truth and end up being wrong, that doesn't qualify. You are confusing your lies. |
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