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741  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 15, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
ok NXT, when are you going to get it together?

https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511566276255154177

I've just compiled nxt binary from sources. It took exactly 2 seconds, compile.sh script is bundled with the package. You need JDK, not JRE.
Try it yourself, source code is included:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/downloads/nxt-client-1.2.8.zip

Garzik has no idea what he's twitting about or has an intention to spread FUD.
742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Dogeparty, Counterparty for the Dogecoin blockchain! (official) on: September 15, 2014, 03:48:49 PM
Counterparty has some sort of GUI app, since Dogeparty was cloned from it, can't the GUI app be cloned too?
743  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you really believe that Bitcoin will hit 1,000,000 on: September 15, 2014, 03:25:47 PM
Magnitudinal advances and developments take years to unfold. Nobody knows the future. However, we can try to identify trends, it's less boring than to stay with what has already proven itself. What has already proven itself and known by others usually has a smaller chance to be as successful as something that not many have discovered yet. Failure rate of discovering new trends is large, so take a calculated risk and play safe.
744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: September 15, 2014, 02:13:22 PM
Too bad there is no multisig in NXT yet, it is scheduled for later this year.
Yeah, if his plan is to run, he will do it very soon, won't take long to wait what happens.
745  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you really believe that Bitcoin will hit 1,000,000 on: September 15, 2014, 01:52:37 PM
@devphp, so you're saying it'll be a race to the bottom?

Basically, yes. How else could it be if it's the only free market left? Free market always operates in fierce competition environment. Who can operate on smaller profit margins and deliver more, wins.

Oh really it does? If you ignore 6 orders of magnitude or so, it probably does, right.

They are completely different hash functions, you can't do that simple comparison with PH/s of Bitcoin and come up with that number.
746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Doge coin is bad on: September 15, 2014, 01:44:30 PM
That's why I would appreciate if someone (maybe you or else) would write what damage does Doge bring

Instead of all and only Bitcoin converts, you get Doge converts, NXT converts, other crypto converts. Bitcoin's market share is in danger.
747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you really believe that Bitcoin will hit 1,000,000 on: September 15, 2014, 11:32:40 AM
Ok, so you're more or less describing the present situation - bitcoin is not the only one. So in effect you're saying no crypto can ever be worth much because there'll always be some cheaper alt around?

Not just cheaper, but full of features.

Basically, all crypto 2.0 technologies do the same that Bitcoin does + a bunch of other stuff, and cheaper too.

As for security of network, even this PoW crypto 1.0 as Dogecoin that now accepts hash power from all the other Scrypt coins with its auxPoW feature, can compete with Bitcoin or getting close to be able to compete. But it's 200x cheaper than Bitcoin. Network effect you tell me? School kids will give you all the network effect you need, trust me. They can't afford Bitcoin, they don't care about getting millibits, this just sounds lame, who wants to be a loser in school? But they still can get thousands of Dogecoin. Before I am blamed for pumping Dogecoin, I just want to say this is the most obvious example that Bitcoin is already outdated. Dogecoin won't last more than a few years either, but it's not outdated yet, while Bitcoin is. Future is in crypto 2.0 Proof-of-Stake currencies though.
748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: September 15, 2014, 11:12:35 AM
I think that was another coins requirement. I have been running on Java 7 for a while now. Havent been game enough to upgrade.

Yeah, I guess it was NEM that needs 8.
749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: September 15, 2014, 11:07:06 AM
I know one of the other guys was having issues with Java 8 maybe got to do something with that?

Hm, I thought Qora had a requirement of Java 8 to run? Hold on, I'll try Java 7 then.

PS: Nope, I have both java 7 and 8 on my system, maybe it was the other way around before, I overwrote run.sh with the new one and forgot to check. Anyway, both java 7 and 8 print the same error message. Has to be something wrong on my system, if noone else can confirm.
750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: September 15, 2014, 11:03:11 AM
Maybe get the seed and start from scratch?

Yeah, I tried that too, see my post Smiley It's alright, must be something specific to my environment.
751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread on: September 15, 2014, 10:01:03 AM
Luke-jr and maybe some other bitcoin devs is like little kids who don't want play together with neighbor house kids in their sandbox, but there is coming day when they grow up and ask XCP and MSC join to play same game   Cheesy Thats why there no need other chains.  But that is just normal because neighbors kids have bigger trucks and other toys and they have only sandbox.

That's why he has "Jr." in his name Smiley
752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: September 15, 2014, 09:53:48 AM
v15 doesn't work, getting this error message:

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: f.e

I tried both deleting only 'data' directory and starting from scratch with no wallet. It prints that error and quits. Java 8 on Ubuntu 14.04 x64. Anyone else has the same issue? v14 worked alright, except sometimes not being able to connect to peers.
753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: September 15, 2014, 09:22:14 AM
I don't see any correlation between Doge and LTC except that LTC has dropped significantly and than Doge has additionally risen because there were disgruntled LTC investors who were sicking for another coin to invest in and doge coin was right in time

I was actually pointing to the correlation between Doge and Bitcoin. LTC is dead meat already.
754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: jl777 asset scammer EXPOSED . . . buy XMR instead (real future) on: September 15, 2014, 08:11:20 AM
Or even three bullets for some folks would be just right Grin
755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Doge coin is bad on: September 15, 2014, 08:10:12 AM
I don't see any damages to BTC from DOGE.

You should try harder.
756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: jl777 asset scammer EXPOSED . . . buy XMR instead (real future) on: September 15, 2014, 07:24:45 AM
This subforum is a mess. At least in the wild west times they could put a bullet or two into someone they don't like. Here you can't do that, crazy Grin
757  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you really believe that Bitcoin will hit 1,000,000 on: September 15, 2014, 06:50:30 AM
So what's your 'realistic assessment' of adoption rates? I'm not being antagonistic here, just curious what you think.

My idea is that it's not necessarily Bitcoin that people will be adopting. Bitcoin will not be the only one. But since you asked, here is my take on how it's developing. As for crypto currencies in general, it will largely depend on how stable or rather, how unstable, the financial systems of the world and individual countries are. The trend is the financial system is losing stability, which is favorable for crypto currencies, adoption will continue to rise with more fiat pouring into crypto currencies, again, not necessarily all of it will be going to Bitcoin.
758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Dogeparty, Counterparty for the Dogecoin blockchain! (official) on: September 15, 2014, 06:44:18 AM
Cool, so trading is gonna be implemented pretty soon? Looking forward to it..

Should happen on Wednesday, that's when burning ends. Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxttycoin | Earn 5% bonus per month on your holdings for the next 12 months. on: September 15, 2014, 06:37:26 AM
Such scary, much panic! Grin
760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will scotcoin be a serious currency co-existing if they vote yes on Sept18? on: September 15, 2014, 04:55:07 AM
No.
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