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7461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cheaper In Bitcoins - Redefining its game on: December 18, 2011, 06:50:38 PM
CIB AIN'T DEAD YET... YOU PEOPLE AREN'T LISTENING LOL..

Looking forward to the reorganization of your business Xenland.

There are ton's of products that ONLY Bitcoiners will buy, and I promise you most of these people don't even know it yet  Wink.
The genie is out of the bottle. It's time to start thinking outside the box. I know it sounds corny, but you ain't seen nothing yet.
7462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Max Keiser's campaign for a million new bitcoin users by the end of next year on: December 18, 2011, 12:56:23 PM
Max may be able to help with this project:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49854.msg593310#msg593310
7463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Proposal: An Alternative Currency that doesn't "waste" energy on: December 18, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
Howabout an AbacusCoin? That would certainly not take any electricity. We could just employ child labor in China to run the calculations.  Wink
7464  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie Experience with MtGox on: December 18, 2011, 09:37:18 AM
Just doing some hunting - is there a "terms of use" for Gox?  I couldn't see it.  Pretty crummy for the so called #1 exchange.
If it's based in Japan, then what good would legalese do for you? Use at your own risk until something better comes along. There's lots of ideas floating around, but mtgox is here and now.

I think this is a photo from 2006 of the CEO and trainees (looks like spring break) when Mutum Sigillum (the USA counterpart where your money actually goes) started:
MUTUM SIGILLUM LLC — 2915 OGLETOWN ROAD, # 1085 — NEWARK, DE 19713 — U.S.A.
7465  Other / Off-topic / Re: The residual effect of getting involved in Bitcoin. on: December 18, 2011, 04:35:21 AM
We use secret rooms and backup safes. Decoy guns and tools are left not so well hidden. We have animals as security. Once in awhile we target practice with semi-automatics in the back forty just so people know we are armed. The distant warehouses have been pretty much looted since they went on the market, but the local warehouses are secure. It's not so much the petty thieves that are the problem, but local bureaucrats pulling dirty tricks to legally steal property through tax assessments and eminent domain. It's getting to the point that nobody can be trusted. What we've found to be the best security is to hire the thieves and pay them for honest work. Most of them want a little self-respect and won't steal (at least your good stuff), at least until they end up in jail again. They tend to ward away other troublemakers as well.
7466  Other / Off-topic / Re: The residual effect of getting involved in Bitcoin. on: December 18, 2011, 03:32:31 AM
I never lock my home, the keys to my F250 are on the dash, either in the driveway or on the public street, and my Bitcoin resides in Instawallet. One of my warehouses has never been locked while the other is locked only half the time. What am I missing here?

What's your wife or GFs cell?

[edit] either would do I don't need both  Wink
7467  Other / Off-topic / Re: New Game: Hunt the Atlas II on: December 18, 2011, 03:30:30 AM
Oh, shit! Atlas is gone!? This will go down in Bitcoin history!

Bitcoin history?  Really?  He's just a kid with mental issues.  Or you're being sarcastic, hard to tell. 
Somehow I think he's here and in cahoots with these SA trolls.
7468  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Operation Pawn Shop on: December 18, 2011, 03:24:10 AM
If anyone has a good idea how to facilitate pawnshops investing in Bitcoin, respond here.
7469  Other / Off-topic / Re: The residual effect of getting involved in Bitcoin. on: December 18, 2011, 03:13:51 AM
What's to worry about? Bitcoin is secure against everything from muggers to nuclear bombs.

"Bitcoin" may be, but making my Bitcoins so is a different matter. So it's created a healthy respect for security.
I have no worries about securing my wallets at all. They are untouchable.
7470  Other / Off-topic / Re: The residual effect of getting involved in Bitcoin. on: December 18, 2011, 03:05:23 AM
What's to worry about? Bitcoin is secure against everything from muggers to nuclear bombs.
7471  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cheaper In Bitcoins - Redefining its game on: December 18, 2011, 01:44:12 AM
Cry man this is disturbing when a brilliant site like CIB can't make it ....
I think my idea was right its just the execution was wrong. It was kind of over zealous of me to think I could compete with amazon or other popular stores just by going off the pure Bitcoin purchases support. The idea was that people would at first support my site just becuase it was a good way to go with Bitcoins and buy things. Then with the profits I would put it back right into the store to lower prices by finding better options as far as suppliers go.

But I'm not letting go of it just yet just changing the execution. Looking for niche Bitcoin products... things nobody can purchase with fiat money - PM me if you have somthing good.

The first thing that comes to mind are those small independent artist (indies). Last count, there's upwards of a million of them. Re-branding to Only With Bitcoin is also an option. You're a bright guy who's not afraid to take risk. I like that!

~Bruno~

Starving artists, garage bands, first edition books, and the ever requested gift debit cards are a few. They are all things that are either going to be small payments or something you don't want charged back.
7472  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Free Bitcoins on The Bitcoin Show Next Monday sponsored by Coinbits.com on: December 18, 2011, 12:29:46 AM
I believe everyone deserves a 2nd chance?

Sure, he'd be welcome to paint my house next summer, but not handling my company finances. *g*

lol yes, ok, will nobody is asking you to do your "company finances" with him ? he runs a internet T.V show on bitcoins ?  how does this have to do with your "company finances"?

Maybe, he can come paint my house also!  Tongue
Bruce is in good company with other successful convicted felons like talkshow hosts G. Gordon Liddy and Rush Limbaugh.
7473  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why are people losing faith? on: December 18, 2011, 12:18:50 AM
It's because the #1 BTC exchange, MTgox, is complete shit and will be hacked again.
I don't trust any exchange with any significant amount. I leave that to the day traders to take the risks. They don't seem to mind. I've noticed that right before or after a rally there are movements of millions of Bitcoin, presumably to/from mtgox.
7474  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Free Bitcoins on The Bitcoin Show Next Monday sponsored by Coinbits.com on: December 18, 2011, 12:05:47 AM
This is a good thread to find additions to my ignore list.
7475  Economy / Marketplace / Re: FeedZeBirds.com - Bitcoin Twitter Ad Platform [ANN] on: December 17, 2011, 11:47:50 PM

Now how about a similar service for people who "like" or "recommend" on Facebook?


That sounds like a good idea. There are other services trying to do this without bitcoin. Bitcoin seems like a good fit.
I think there may be some legal issues with these services, however.

There probably is a workaround to allow FeedZeBirds itself to work with FB. If it is successful, maybe Google will adopt Bitcoin micropayments for all its advertising.
7476  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: There is a way we can trade Bitcoin without getting shut down constantly - read on: December 17, 2011, 09:11:01 PM
JackH, your financial kungfu is strong.
7477  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $90,000 in credit card fees on: December 17, 2011, 08:58:30 PM
Payola is not confined to just the US.

The sheer scale of it among functional democracies is uniquely American though, at least AFAIK everywhere else corporate donations are severely restricted and/or requiring full disclosure. Political parties receive the majority of their funds from public means and individuals, and even if they were allowed, accepting significant corporate bribes would cost them dearly in elections. Where I live political parties receive finance in function of their electorate, so they get paid for votes, not the other way around with corporations or financial elite buying votes.

Where do you get the idea corporations can donate unlimited funds to US politicians?  The per person/entity limit applies to corporations also.

In the case of super PACs, unlimited donations only require the identity of the donor. The Citizens United ruling lifted the spending limits for corporations. While they don't contribute directly to the politician, they can be used to do the politician's bidding.
7478  Other / Off-topic / Re: Indeed you were heedless of this on: December 17, 2011, 08:26:51 PM
I passed this one along to SAB. Quran science is incredible.
7479  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin on: December 17, 2011, 01:31:07 PM
It's probably no more fantastic than out-competing the world banking system.

not sure what you mean Huh
Sometimes I get the feeling that people protest reactively and simply want a revolution. I even sometimes find myself hoping that the global economies crash.
 
I see social networking like Wirtland as a niche, but not a substitute for participating in local community development. Global networking is fine, but I find myself losing touch with my neighbors. Bitcoin is attempting to redress the need for a global currency when we probably don't need one. I'm not saying that it's here to fix a problem that doesn't exist, because there really is a global financial crisis. I'm just saying that the solution may not need to be a global one, but a local one instead. If people participate in governance instead of fantasizing about it, we may not have an economic crisis tomorrow. It's not fiat money that is the problem, it's corruption and greed.

Bitcoin may be the "antibiotic" that will kill the infection of greed that has spread across the globe, but having global solutions to finance may cause us to overlook our own community. I hope Bitcoin development will give us tools to take our community assets out of the 'globalists' control, (i.e. land contracts, small business loans, purchase agreements, etc.) without worry of having them sold off and dealing with overly complex terms and conditions designed to mislead consumers.

Hopefully a common money will lead to developing and following examples of good business practice. If Bitcoin can do all that some folks claim it can then great, but if not then that's okay too because it's a lot easier to fix local problems than global ones. If Bitcoin stays as a niche tool, then hopefully it will be useful to prevent future global crises while we focus on problems at home.
7480  Other / Off-topic / Re: FS: Bitcoin Ghetto Bills on: December 17, 2011, 12:32:58 PM
We have an instantaneously transferable global uncounterfeitable currency, and you just show me a piece of paper that more likely than not has been in a stripper's g-string or used for snorting coke? Who's going to want that?

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