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7981  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Myth of Compromise on: November 09, 2011, 09:25:30 PM


No, this scenario is an ad hominem to the main argument at hand.

She was forced to pay into it. Any reasonable person would take back what was stolen from them.


Nobody forced her to leave Russia and move to socialist America. lol
7982  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Myth of Compromise on: November 09, 2011, 09:19:28 PM

from http://michaelprescott.net/hickman.htm
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In December of 1927, Hickman, nineteen years old, showed up at a Los Angeles public school and managed to get custody of a twelve-year-old girl, Marian (sometimes Marion) Parker. He was able to convince Marian's teacher that the girl's father, a well-known banker, had been seriously injured in a car accident and that the girl had to go to the hospital immediately. The story was a lie. Hickman disappeared with Marian, and over the next few days Mr. and Mrs. Parker received a series of ransom notes. The notes were cruel and taunting and were sometimes signed "Death" or "Fate." The sum of $1,500 was demanded for the child's safe release. (Hickman needed this sum, he later claimed, because he wanted to go to Bible college!) The father raised the payment in gold certificates and delivered it to Hickman. As told by the article "Fate, Death and the Fox" in crimelibrary.com,

"At the rendezvous, Mr. Parker handed over the money to a young man who was waiting for him in a parked car. When Mr. Parker paid the ransom, he could see his daughter, Marion, sitting in the passenger seat next to the suspect. As soon as the money was exchanged, the suspect drove off with the victim still in the car. At the end of the street, Marion's corpse was dumped onto the pavement. She was dead. Her legs had been chopped off and her eyes had been wired open to appear as if she was still alive. Her internal organs had been cut out and pieces of her body were later found strewn all over the Los Angeles area."

This was Ayn Rand's hero and model "Superman." He was dragged whimpering and whining to his execution much like Ayn Rand herself taking Social Security and Medicare as she faced her death. Cowards all.
Ad hominem.

Also, Rand paid into Social Security all her life. She was only taking back value she had already earned that would of been better spent in a savings account.

Calling a psychopathic killer a "Superman" is sociopathic. I don't see how that can be construed as ad hominem. Ayn Rand accepting public assistance because "she paid into it" makes her a hypocrite for saying things like "America's abundance was not created by public sacrifices to the common good, but by the productive genius of free men who pursued their own personal interests and the making of their own private fortunes."
7983  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Myth of Compromise on: November 09, 2011, 09:10:50 PM

from http://michaelprescott.net/hickman.htm
Quote
In December of 1927, Hickman, nineteen years old, showed up at a Los Angeles public school and managed to get custody of a twelve-year-old girl, Marian (sometimes Marion) Parker. He was able to convince Marian's teacher that the girl's father, a well-known banker, had been seriously injured in a car accident and that the girl had to go to the hospital immediately. The story was a lie. Hickman disappeared with Marian, and over the next few days Mr. and Mrs. Parker received a series of ransom notes. The notes were cruel and taunting and were sometimes signed "Death" or "Fate." The sum of $1,500 was demanded for the child's safe release. (Hickman needed this sum, he later claimed, because he wanted to go to Bible college!) The father raised the payment in gold certificates and delivered it to Hickman. As told by the article "Fate, Death and the Fox" in crimelibrary.com,

"At the rendezvous, Mr. Parker handed over the money to a young man who was waiting for him in a parked car. When Mr. Parker paid the ransom, he could see his daughter, Marion, sitting in the passenger seat next to the suspect. As soon as the money was exchanged, the suspect drove off with the victim still in the car. At the end of the street, Marion's corpse was dumped onto the pavement. She was dead. Her legs had been chopped off and her eyes had been wired open to appear as if she was still alive. Her internal organs had been cut out and pieces of her body were later found strewn all over the Los Angeles area."

This was Ayn Rand's hero and model "Superman." He was dragged whimpering and whining to his execution much like Ayn Rand herself taking Social Security and Medicare as she faced her death. Cowards all.
7984  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Myth of Compromise on: November 09, 2011, 08:57:10 PM
Written like a true sociopath.
So how do you handle a compromise between food and poison?

That's a sophomoric fallacy. From Wikipedia "A false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy, fallacy of false choice, black-and-white thinking, or the fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses) is a type of logical fallacy that involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there are additional options (sometimes shades of grey between the extremes)."
There are no shades of grey between solving a situation with theft and not solving with theft at all. To go in the middle results in somebody having their value stolen. This is about compromises dealing with values and principles. They simple do not exist.

Don't tell that to insurance companies. Auto theft insurance will disappear.
7985  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Myth of Compromise on: November 09, 2011, 08:52:19 PM
Written like a true sociopath.
So how do you handle a compromise between food and poison?

That's a sophomoric fallacy. From Wikipedia "A false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy, fallacy of false choice, black-and-white thinking, or the fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses) is a type of logical fallacy that involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there are additional options (sometimes shades of grey between the extremes)."
7986  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will turn...... on: November 09, 2011, 08:02:46 PM
One of the advantages of Bitcoin is that even if it goes to 1 Million USD it will still be very affordable for people to buy. You can't say that about gold. Where would you store a small fraction of a dust speck of gold?
Easy

Gold foil in polycarbonate casing. This happens to be the scenario for currency money proposed by some goldbugs.
I'll take that instead of paper any day.

I'm sure by then everyone will have an ipad with a built-in electron microscope. I'm not sure how else you will be able to assay the gold.
7987  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Myth of Compromise on: November 09, 2011, 07:41:26 PM
Written like a true sociopath.
7988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will turn...... on: November 09, 2011, 07:31:58 PM
One of the advantages of Bitcoin is that even if it goes to 1 Million USD it will still be very affordable for people to buy. You can't say that about gold. Where would you store a small fraction of a dust speck of gold?
7989  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Story of Broke on: November 09, 2011, 07:18:47 PM
Wrong link I think =) But good commercial!

Thanks, I fixed the link.
7990  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin for social change on: November 09, 2011, 07:14:22 PM
So Walmart helps their underpaid employees apply for welfare, how magnanimous. In Mexico they are attempting to pay their employees in Walmart gift cards. It won't be long before they pay their employees in canned food and stale bread.
7991  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Destruction on: November 09, 2011, 06:59:58 PM
Most of the people who call themselves the 99% are still in the top 1% globally.

By their own logic, they should withdraw most of their savings and donate them to slum dwellers in Africa.
This reminds me of a comic of a protester holding a sign while a hobo was pulling on his shirt asking for his iPad.

This reminds me of a comic of a mental patient wearing a Napolean costume telling the doctors he doesn't belong with all the crazy people.
7992  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin for social change on: November 09, 2011, 06:42:19 PM
So what?  Corporations and businesses are completely within their rights to not employ people who want to unionize.

That's not really true. That's why Walmart closes an entire store. They can't just outright fire the union organizer. There is a whole industry built around union busting. All I'm looking for is a way to use crypto-currency technology to support union organizers without getting into the cross-hairs of professional corporate terrorists. They are too smart to get caught by police. Until there is a special division of law enforcement to protect people from corporate espionage, there have to be legal ways to organize unions outside the purview of corporate elitists that feel they are above the law.
7993  Other / Politics & Society / The Story of Broke on: November 09, 2011, 06:03:13 PM
Here's a new video from Annie Leonard. If you liked the Story of Stuff, you might like this. It's the Story of Broke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G49q6uPcwY8

[link fixed]
7994  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Simple Bank on: November 09, 2011, 04:21:25 PM
I so look forward to talking to "Peggy" when I need support services.*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoPrleuYMQs
7995  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Destruction on: November 09, 2011, 01:15:32 PM
Preventing destruction, I'm all for that. Destroying an adversary that creates more destruction than what he produces is only a gain.

However, destruction in the name of the destruction that has occurred, merely an eye for an eye... If that's justice, call me unjust as much as you please. Equality is overrated. Equality for the sake of equality is a farce of crocodile tears and envy. It is merely emotion with only loss for us all.

End the 1% they claim. Redistribute the wealth they say. It would only be so just if they had truly been stolen from. Have the purported victims --the 99%-- been so looted and so raped of this great value they have created; the millions upon millions that are earned by these specialists; by these doctors, lawyers, scientists and technicians that make the so-called 1%? Will the dissolution of their regime of offering highly valuable services to society really make things just or only lead to further destruction?

Hi Atlas, why did you try to change identities again?

Hilarious. This is becoming a sport.
7996  Economy / Economics / Re: Are Currency and Money the Same thing on: November 09, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
I'm thinking about a simplified case:

On an island with only 2 people (A and B) and a bank, at the beginning of the day, bank loan out 1 million dollar (the island dollar) to A and 1 million to B, with 0 interest

A then capture a fish and sell to B at price of 1 million, B pick up a basket of fruits and sell to A at price of 1 million. After this, they both spent 1 million and earned 1 million, at the end of the day, they return the money to Bank, thus completing the credit loop

So, money is the driven power of economy activities, same as BTC is the driven power of miner's activities, under this driven power, there will be economy activities.

What if second day bank only will loan 100 dollar to A and 100 dollar to B? A and B will refuse to do anything because they think the dollar is not worth their effort. Actually their economy activities in this case are totally independent of how much bank loan they have, they could still complete the activities with 100 dollar loan, but now they have some HISTORY to compare and FEEL unfair

So, the most important use of currency is the benchmark of value






If there is nobody in the bank, why don't they just go take that 2 million out? I'm just pointing out that if this is a closed system, then there is no need for money.
7997  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: like it or not, the SR is only killer application of bitcoin since it was born, on: November 09, 2011, 04:13:12 AM
Casascius is spot on. As for the morality... well, we are who we are. I've been thinking about a scratch-off Bitcoin Bingo game for raising money for charities. There are so many possibilities.
7998  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does the Bitcoin Community need? on: November 09, 2011, 03:48:08 AM
Satellite TV ? the ultimate in grey markets...

How is that?
7999  Other / Meta / Re: No more signature images on: November 09, 2011, 01:58:38 AM
www.no_more_stupid_links.wtf
8000  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.5 BTC left over, does anyone have an idea to grow it to 1 BTC? on: November 09, 2011, 01:05:56 AM
You can start a business on GLBSE.com and sell shares. The fee to list a business is 0.5 BTC. You can get rich quick.  Cheesy
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