I would at the very least have to take a job in this society but I would have little say in what I could do and how I could do it. I would probably end up not working at all due to this dissatisfaction. I wouldn't be the only one. I hope you enjoy your society full of bums.
Maybe their will be willfully ignorant people. My friends an I would (hypothetically) be proposing scientifically supportable designs for some extraordinary capitalist* venture. We would be adding great value to society by developing useful tools that benefit everyone. My friends would have excellent track records for such successful ventures in peer reviewed communication channels. If you properly educate yourself, perhaps you can participate in such ventures. BTW, RBE is not much different from the capitalism you understand, but industry is managed by logic, not nepotism and corruption. *Capital as in aggregated material resources |
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I would be imprisoned and likely killed in this society. That's a fact. I want unilateral claim to my labor and everything I produce. You guys won't have that.
I would probably end up committing suicide if I found myself in a RBE.
Heh, what would you produce that anyone would want? |
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What if I only want to care for myself and my family? Do I need to be sent to a re-education camp for awhile?
Forget the "re." Back of the class. Resource Based Economy = Stalinism with robots Gotcha. I wrote a different book. Don't put words in my mouth. BTW, did you read Bellamy yet? |
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What if I only want to care for myself and my family? Do I need to be sent to a re-education camp for awhile?
Forget the "re." Back of the class. |
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Do you guys think human society is more complex, or less complex, than an individual human brain?
To be honest, I don't know. Complexity is the science of chaos. We are mapping the brain and can actually program computers to mimic thought to a degree. The signal to noise ratio is higher in the brain than society. Society is really pretty simple if you filter out statistically insignificant error. I prefer to think of us as family. After all, we all evolved from the same ancestors. We're just a very dysfunctional family. A human can only maintain intimate social connections up to 150 people. Also, what happens if I don't want to care for a certain person? What if I want to discriminate in who I give my love and labor to? 150? Source? What's love got to do with anything? If you ever (God forbid) procreate, what will you charge your children for their breakfast if you don't want to care for them? Will you just sell them for medical experiments? I won't have children if the love ever comes into question like that. Anyways, surely somebody else will CHOOSE to love them if I ever have to abandon them. No force is required. Let's say in certain cultures its acceptable to sell your children? I guess you're going to conquer them with guns, eh, and convert them to RBE? I can almost hear the steam blasting from Atlas' ears. |
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That's at one time. People come and go. Kareem claimed 10,000 women, heh. |
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Do you guys think human society is more complex, or less complex, than an individual human brain?
To be honest, I don't know. Complexity is the science of chaos. We are mapping the brain and can actually program computers to mimic thought to a degree. The signal to noise ratio is higher in the brain than society. Society is really pretty simple if you filter out statistically insignificant error. I prefer to think of us as family. After all, we all evolved from the same ancestors. We're just a very dysfunctional family. A human can only maintain intimate social connections up to 150 people. Also, what happens if I don't want to care for a certain person? What if I want to discriminate in who I give my love and labor to? 150? Source? What's love got to do with anything? If you ever (God forbid) procreate, what will you charge your children for their breakfast if you don't want to care for them? Will you just sell them for medical experiments? |
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Do you guys think human society is more complex, or less complex, than an individual human brain?
To be honest, I don't know. Complexity is the science of chaos. We are mapping the brain and can actually program computers to mimic thought to a degree. The signal to noise ratio is higher in the brain than society. Society is really pretty simple if you filter out statistically insignificant error. I prefer to think of us as family. After all, we all evolved from the same ancestors. We're just a very dysfunctional family. |
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The only way you are going to get a unilateral human culture that meets your desires is through violence. This RBE is a pipe-dream. You're going to need to stick a state in the homes of families and perform eugenics on people that don't meet your criteria.
Feel free to stand by your beliefs but don't pretend to be peaceful.
I agree. The people in this world are too brainwashed and willfully ignorant. Fear not, RBE will not happen in your lifetime. You have a lifetime of violence and fear based culture to enjoy. Their children's children are who I wish to educate. No, they are only ignorant of your preferences. Don't honor yourself with an objective moral truth. I would love to debate this over beers. You claim that people are not willfully ignorant. Priceless. What moral truth do you posit that I have declared? I posit only science that is testable, verifiable, reproducible, and predictive. Learn to distinguish hypotheses from theories. You will then find your platform more solid. |
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The only way you are going to get a unilateral human culture that meets your desires is through violence. This RBE is a pipe-dream. You're going to need to stick a state in the homes of families and perform eugenics on people that don't meet your criteria.
Feel free to stand by your beliefs but don't pretend to be peaceful.
I agree. The people in this world are too brainwashed and willfully ignorant. Fear not, RBE will not happen in your lifetime. You have a lifetime of violence and fear based culture to enjoy. Their children's children are who I wish to educate. |
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I'm fairly sure Bitcoin is a perfectly good substitute for a nice hot cup of tea when creating an Infinite Improbability Drive... and I'm probably not wrong about that.
Yeah. Its good for Bitcoin mining, too. When I turned the Infinite Improbability Drive ON, I started finding the hashes almost instantaneously, even on my old Pentium Pro CPU  Meh, I keep getting address collisions  |
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This is why I quit trying to explain RBE to people. Every time you try to explain one fallacy they make, they make two more fallacies trying to refute you.
Name them. There are many fallacies. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallacy+types If you are asking about people, I don't even bother here. I gave that up awhile ago. I would willingly debate a person live. It's much easier that way. |
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This is why I quit trying to explain RBE to people. Every time you try to explain one fallacy they make, they make two more fallacies trying to refute you.
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Well my statement earlier today is total crap. Here we are with two giant rallies above 3.00
Bitcoin tends to prove most people wrong about most things.  |
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Hopefully, we'll soon have easy ways of importing base58 private keys into a wallet for the prize money. I'm exploring several venues for selling these cards, but mostly they will be used for charity fundraising.
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Animals don't need money. Humans are animals. Therefore humans don't need money. Families take care of one another throughout most of the animal kingdom. They share resources.
You have a very idealized image of nature. Please go spend a few months in the jungle without weapons and tell us if that still flies for you (if you ever come back). You are just forgetting one point : in nature, animals not only share resources, they ARE resources themselves. Are you sure you want such a human society? I said nothing about society, only families. Our society is a jungle. Go spend a few months in Somalia with weapons and tell us if that still flies for you (if you ever come back). You are just forgetting one point : WE have evolved to use TECHNOLOGY and don't need to depend on the laws of nature. If you think this is the best society we can ever invent, I pity you. |
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Let's put this in clearer English! I hate it when google translate's crappy output makes me read more slowly.  Section 6. Recommendations 1. The government and central bank should acknowledge the existence of Bitcoin and deal with it proactively. Using the top-notch supercomputers at its disposal and using state power to ensure a monopoly on mining power, the central bank could acquire the vast majority of bitcoins. 2. The central bank should set up a Bitcoin bank and an official Bitcoin exchange and become the middleman in Chinese Bitcoin transactions to eliminate Bitcoin's relative anonymity and ensure that Bitcoin commerce can be regulated. 3. The government should push for international acceptance of a Bitcoin-backed currency, establishing a non-sovereign monetary system, to challenge the supremacy of the US dollar and to make the international financial system more harmonious and stable. Thanks for the clarification. So they want to become the largest miner and control the bitcoin exchange/banking industry within China to deanonymize it. This precedent may be followed by other countries, and we'll quickly come to a vastly more traceable system than we have today. Sure, current bitcoiners all get rich, but the governments won't hurt one bit. Yes, there will be winners and losers in the bitrush, but in the end we've just delivered them exactly what they've been looking for. They just don't know it yet. They could offer us only a fraction of our holdings for *registered* versions. |
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Courtesy of Google translate:
Six recommendations
1 Governments and central banks should face the existence of bit money, take the initiative, the use of the country's massive computing power, suppression of private mining power, the vast majority of money concentrated in the hands of the state bits.
(2) of setting up a bit coin banks, currency trading in the implementation of the middle bit body to eliminate the anonymity that it can be regulated.
3 bits of currency-based international joint issue credit currency, thus contributing to the establishment of non-sovereign monetary system. With this new international settlement currency to challenge the U.S. hegemony, the international financial system more harmonious and stable.
I wonder if "suppression of private mining power" is an accurate translation. I also wonder if he is suggesting an alternate block chain. |
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China should hire The Manipulator to buy up as much Bitcoin as they can using bots that won't raise any alarms.
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I'd like to see them try. They'd need a lot of computers to do that.
If China wanted to, they could easily outhash everything working on bitcoin. You really want to see them try? YES! Then Bitcoin will be taken seriously. It wouldn't be long before there is a Bitcoin Cold War. |
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