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7561  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Strongcoin.com down? on: February 17, 2012, 01:26:42 AM
Have you tried PM the developer here on the forum?
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=36133
7562  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Getting money out of TradeHill on: February 17, 2012, 12:07:10 AM
I was thinking about some combination of local wire transfers (like from TH to BitInstant), but can't find anything. Why can't just TH issue a mtgox coupon?

Using BitInstant to transfer from TradeHill to Mt. Gox is free:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64101.0
 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63762.0

Crypto X Change will give you a $5 credit even
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63887.0

7563  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: US moves to regulate Offshore Money Service Businesses/Exchangers on: February 16, 2012, 09:50:45 PM
Combine that with today's release of the FATF recommendations though and there is news today:

From the glossary:

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Funds:
The term funds refers to assets of every kind, whether corporeal or incorporeal, tangible or intangible, movable or immovable, however acquired, and legal documents or instruments in any form, including electronic or digital, evidencing title to, or interest in, such assets.

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Money or value Money or value transfer services (MVTS):
Refers to financial services that involve transfer service the acceptance of cash, cheques, other monetary instruments or other stores of value and the payment of a corresponding sum in cash or other form to a beneficiary by means of a communication, message, transfer, or through a clearing network to which the MVTS provider belongs.

Transactions performed by such services can involve one or more intermediaries and a final payment to a third party, and may include any new payment methods.

Sometimes these services have ties to particular geographic regions and are described using a variety of specific terms, including hawala, hundi, and fei-chen.


Then:

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14. Money or value transfer services
Countries should take measures to ensure that natural or legal persons that provide money or value transfer services (MVTS) are licensed or registered, and subject to effective systems for monitoring and ensuring compliance with the relevant measures called for in the FATF Recommendations. Countries should take action to identify natural or legal persons that carry out MVTS without a license or registration, and to apply appropriate sanctions.

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15. New technologies
Countries and financial institutions should identify and assess the money laundering or terrorist financing risks that may arise in relation to (a) the development of new products and new business practices, including new delivery mechanisms, and (b) the use of new or developing technologies for both new and pre-existing products. In the case of financial institutions, such a risk assessment should take place prior to the launch of the new products, business practices or the use of new or developing technologies. They should take appropriate measures to manage and mitigate those risks.

 - http://www.fatf-gafi.org/document/17/0,3746,en_32250379_32236920_49656209_1_1_1_1,00.html
 - http://www.fatf-gafi.org/dataoecd/49/29/49684543.pdf



7564  Other / Off-topic / Re: Another Person 2 Person Payments (e.g., PayPal, Dwolla) network: PopMoney on: February 16, 2012, 07:17:35 PM
UK gets a similar type of service: Pingit from Barclays

Apparently if you aren't a Barclays customer, you can register and link your own UK bank account and at least be able to receive funds from another user ("from friends and family") who does bank with Barclays.

Transfers are free though, apparently.

- http://thenextweb.com/uk/2012/02/16/uk-bank-barclays-targets-paypal-with-new-mobile-number-money-transfer-service-pingit
- http://barclays.co.uk/PersonalBanking/P1242603570446?WT.mc_id=301RDpingit
7565  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Basic questions - wrapping head around wallets on: February 16, 2012, 06:04:31 PM
Also, I have downloaded the software from bitcoin.org but I can't seem to find a way to manually input/import wallets into the program. Is this possible?

The stock client doesn't support that yet.  There is a utility (pywallet) to help with doing that.

 - http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/2254/how-can-i-import-a-private-key-into-the-bitcoin-client
7566  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Basic questions - wrapping head around wallets on: February 16, 2012, 05:50:34 PM
My question is, if I want to receive payment from someone, can I give them one of the wallet addresses from my piece of paper which I have never used or entered into blockchain? If they send a payment, will I be able to input the wallet/key details at some point in the future and the bitcoins will be identified and show up?

From what I understand I believe this to be correct, but please help me out with some piece of mind Smiley

That is correct.

This might help explain it with a little more clarity:
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/FAQ#What_happens_when_someone_sends_me_a_bitcoin_but_my_computer_is_powered_off.3F

Also, how on earth does the website search through what must be millions of bitcoins so quickly to identify which ones belong to your wallet?

Just like a retailer doesn't care whose $20 bill you use to pay for your purchase, Bitcoin doesn't care who "spends" the coins.  All that is needed to spend a coin is the coin's private key.  If you keep those keys secure, then you are assured that only you can spend your coins.

As far as the bitcoin client (or the My Wallet from http://BlockChain.info/wallet ) being able to quickly show the balance for the addresses in a wallet well, there's a lot going on underneath to make that possible but fortunately we are getting closer to where Bitcoin can be used without having to be a techie.
7567  Other / Politics & Society / JP Morgan, How Does The Gov't Love Thee? Let Us Count The Ways on: February 16, 2012, 07:28:45 AM
Part of a $300,000 grant to 34 gardeners and farmers in the Portland area will equip agency-sponsored farm stands and markets with card-swipe machines so growers can accept electronic benefit cards for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly the food stamp program.

 - http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/grant-lets-farm-markets-take-snap-debit-cards_2012-02-14.html

Of course, SNAP / EBT cards are processed as standard payment cards (Visa/MC/Amex) so this is basically a gift to the banks so that they can lock in these new merchants and obtain (3% from the swipe fee) more of the government's, err taxpayer's money.

JP Morgan Chase manages the SNAP EBT cards for all food stamp recipients in more than 40 states.  They also issue child support debit cards in 15 states and unemployment insurance debit cards in 7 states.
 "Corporate Welfare"
 - http://www.sfreporter.com/santafe/article-6193-corporate-welfare.html
 - http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=28624
7568  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can we trade stocks, gold etc with Bitcoin? on: February 16, 2012, 04:33:55 AM
I'm looking for a way to buy sell regular stocks and precious metals using Bitcoin.  Note that I do not want to own the stock or PM, just to speculate.

What are some suggestions on how to achieve this?

In which jurisdiction are you describing this to be offered?

In the U.S., of course, brokering the sale of securities (stocks and stock options) is a regulated activity.  There are today no brokers known that are accepting bitcoins as funds for use in trading.

That doesn't mean there isn't that activity occurring just that you won't see it offered publicly.  And let's say, hypothetically, a person were to do the trading through his own account for investments made by that person's family members.  That person would be the one getting the 1099 tax return (dividends, and proceeds from sales), so that can really make a mess and be costly.

[Update: a few links
 - http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/nominee-shareholder.html
 - http://www.fatf-gafi.org/document/0/0,3746,en_32250379_32237202_46706112_1_1_1_1,00.html
]
7569  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Power cost on: February 16, 2012, 03:00:30 AM
what's your price per KWH in USD?

The Electricity pricing Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_pricing#Global_electricity_price_comparison shows the price per kWh in over two dozen countries.  The top three of those where electricity is the cheapest are Spain, Canada and Finland, each of which show electricity under $0.07 US per kWh. Germany, the Netherlands, Italy and Denmark are at the end of that list with electric rates over $0.30 US per kWh.

Though the U.S. average is now a little over $0.10 US per kWh, according to a U.S. Department of Energy monthly report http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/excel/epmxlfile5_3.xls , the residential average is $0.12 US.  On the high end, excluding areas outside the contiguous U.S., are the Northeast states of New York, Connecticut and New Jersey with rates approaching $0.20 US.  On the low end are the Pacific Northwest states Washington and Idaho which are under $0.09 US.  As a rule of thumb, commercial rates can be calculated as being about 90% that of residental, though the report provides specific rates for each state.
7570  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Multiple wallets on same system on: February 16, 2012, 02:43:24 AM
Yes, the one with most of my btc will be in a truecrypt directory, which I won't have to access too often.
The other will be a daily use wallet with a small amount of funds.

To keep the wallet.dat protected, consider a symlink to the wallet.dat in the mounted directory (if on Linux)
7571  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Multiple wallets on same system on: February 16, 2012, 02:18:34 AM
Is there any issues I should be aware of in doing this?  "Be careful you don't do *this* or you will lose everything!"  kinda thing... 

Just to clarify, you are describing two completely separate wallets, right?  i.e., not hoping to copy the wallet and use that for the second instance.
7572  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do we make Bitcoin work as a global micro-payment system? on: February 16, 2012, 02:11:02 AM
There are instances of bitcoin used for micro-payments already:

For digital goods:
 - https://strongcoin.com/blog/bitcoin_micropayments_with_strongcoin

For pay-per-action services:
 - http://bitcoinhorn.com

For donations:
 - http://www.youtipit.org
 - Any site with a donation widget or bitcoin address (can accept as little as just a few cents worth of BTCs)
 - http://btctip.com (Send a tip to a wallet that can be claimed by that Twitter username)

For voting (e.g., for upvotes on Reddit):
 - http://coinsmack.com  (and prior to that, Witcoin)

For gambling:
 - http://betsofbitco.in (predictions market)
7573  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wallet sync on: February 15, 2012, 09:54:38 PM
1)I can get bitcoins even if my wallet is not on sync? (i doubt that since i dun saw even a micro Grin)

See this:
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/FAQ#What_happens_when_someone_sends_me_a_bitcoin_but_my_computer_is_powered_off.3F

2)Every time i open it , it will need to sync all over again?

Yes, new blocks occur about once every ten minutes, so your client will download any blocks it is missing so that it has all the blocks.  

3)How much it have to download? Seems a lot for me and my C partition have not so much space =/

The storage for the blockchain data files is now over a gigabyte and growing.  The client allows an alternate data directory to be used (--datadir=  https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Running_Bitcoin ) if the default storage location (e.g., C: partition on Windows) is not going to be large enough.

Additionally, there are other clients (e.g., Electrum ) which work differently and don't use a full local blockchain.
7574  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] bitaddress.org Safe JavaScript Bitcoin address/private key [BOUNTY 0.1BTC] on: February 15, 2012, 09:36:58 PM
What do you think?

Encryption-protected paper wallets, excellent!
7575  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: send BTC generate new address? on: February 15, 2012, 07:18:59 PM
Is there a possibilty to deactivate this function?

I believe you are asking to specify the address for the "change" to land at.

The only A client that I'm aware of that lets you choose the address where the change should land at is My Wallet from http://BlockChain.info/wallet (which is a  Javascript wallet accessed from a browser)

A workaround is, using the bitcoin-qt client, to make more than one transaction.  So you would send a 10 BTC payment and then click "add recipient" to send the 40 BTC (or 39.9995 to account if paying a 0.0005 fee) right back to the address that you would be sending from.

 [Update: A client that sends the change back to an input address is MultiBit -- see jim618's response below.]
7576  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin2Cash.com - Cash-Only Marketplace on: February 15, 2012, 05:30:27 AM
Like this idea.

Incidentally, there is another service that offers bitcoins for cash in the mail:
 - http://www.get-bitcoin.com

7577  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trade Gift Cards for Bitcoins? on: February 14, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
What other online marketplaces are there for bitcoins?

US based?

Well, Get-Bitcoin is a U.S.-based exchange for buying and selling bitcoins.  Cash in the mail to buy bitcoins is one method even.
 - http://www.get-bitcoin.com

Camp BX is another U.S.-based exchange:
 - http://www.campbx.com

 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins

If instead you are asking about marketplaces other than exchanges between dollars and bitcoins, the Trade page on the Bitcoin wiki lists merchants who accept bitcoin as payment and lists other sites where bitcoins are used in commerce:
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade
 
7578  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trade Gift Cards for Bitcoins? on: February 14, 2012, 04:24:12 PM
Sorry for double post, but when you sell a giftcard, do you have to mail it? Or can you just give them the code on the back of the card

As SgtSpike mentioned, some cards can be spent online.

But with the prepaid card trading services listed in the link I gave most will want the card to be mailed in.  One service offers the ability to bring the card to an agent who will redeem it:
 - http://www.swapagift.com    (agent locations in much of the U.S. / e.g., at check cashing stores)
7579  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin2Cash.com - Cash-Only Marketplace on: February 14, 2012, 04:15:17 PM
Site now shows "Site temporarily unavailable."

Is that truly temporary or is Bitcoin2Cash no longer operating as an exchange?
7580  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trade Gift Cards for Bitcoins? on: February 14, 2012, 02:31:07 AM
You would probably find a willing trader on the #bitcoin-otc marketplace.

 - http://www.bitcoin-otc.com
 - http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#bitcoin-otc-foyer

Similar services which pay out in PayPal, for instance, yield about 85% of the card's face value.
 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2452.msg661611#msg661611
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